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Kaden 09-05-2005 05:48 PM

[QUOTE=snidget]I actually have been whoring that everywhere, as people seem to miss it, and I think everyone should have it. It seriously gives Blazing Arrow a run as his best album.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it's as good as Blazing Arrow at all, but it's definitely miles ahead of Nia, and an amazing album in general.

Despite the fact that the songs themselves don't compare to Blazing Arrow, his rapping is more flawless than it's ever been. Like in the song Your Move, does he even pause once? I don't think so. So relentless.

Zesty Mordant 09-05-2005 08:41 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]
Lord Quas is on the Madvillain album too, which doesn't help.[/QUOTE]

yeah, Madlib does a similar thing too. In addition to himself there's also lootpack, quasimoto (lord quas), jaylib, yesterday's new quintent and more I'm sure.

LF96 09-06-2005 09:21 AM

[QUOTE=Kaden]I don't think it's as good as Blazing Arrow at all, but it's definitely miles ahead of Nia, and an amazing album in general.

Despite the fact that the songs themselves don't compare to Blazing Arrow, his rapping is more flawless than it's ever been. Like in the song Your Move, does he even pause once? I don't think so. So relentless.[/QUOTE]
IMO, The Craft is the least good Blackalicious album up to date. That doesn't mean anything bad tho, cause both NIA and Blazing Arrow are classic to me. After the first few listenings I think I'd rate it around 4.25/5 or something.

DemBonez 09-06-2005 10:11 AM

[I]The Craft[/I] is probably Gab's best work so far. "Your Move" is the only track I find him less than stellar (he's rather monotone and lifeless). As much as I love his rapping, Blackalicious lives and dies by Chief Xcel's hands (I say). I like the beats on [I]The Craft[/I] morre than [I]Blazing Arrow[/I], but the personality that Arrow had was just untouchable. The first 6 tracks and the last 4 tracks of Arrow are flawless. Craft is good, just doesn't give me the same impression Arrow did.

[I]NIA[/I] is the worst Blackalicious album in my opinion.

Ledmetalicbeatle 09-06-2005 02:52 PM

[QUOTE=Robert Crumb]Not really. I mean you'll recognize it's him on pretty much any album, just some times he runs stronger with different themes depending on the name he uses. At least that's what I find. He really gets into the persona, but you'll know it's him.[/QUOTE]
he sounds different in KMD though

b0mbs_of_death 09-06-2005 03:39 PM

[QUOTE=Ledmetalicbeatle]he sounds different in KMD though[/QUOTE]
I think Doom was 18 when Mr. Hood came out too. The whole Doom persona came from the death of his brother SubRoc. Plus if he records under other aliases, he get's to put out records on other labels. I mean he does all his Metal Fingers stuff on his own imprint, but his other records have been on SubVerse, Natures Sound, Stones Throw, Big Dada, Epitaph and now Rhymesayers. Quas is just 'Libs other persona. Apparenly Madlib hates his voice recorded, which is kinda crazy cause he kills it on some of the Lootpack ****.

Sage Francis reminds me of a hardcore kid that was a poetry nerd. I think some of the Fugazi and Minor Threat references might back me up. I dunno, I was kinda into the preachy hardcore scene of the mid 90's and I just don't need to be preached at at a show since 95% of the time, you are preachin to the converted. I think some of the beats on a healthy distrust were just eh. That's probably why I liked the non prophets record just because the beats were better produced.

Call me crazy.

Kaden 09-06-2005 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=DemBonez][I]The Craft[/I] is probably Gab's best work so far. "Your Move" is the only track I find him less than stellar (he's rather monotone and lifeless). As much as I love his rapping, Blackalicious lives and dies by Chief Xcel's hands (I say). I like the beats on [I]The Craft[/I] morre than [I]Blazing Arrow[/I], but the personality that Arrow had was just untouchable. The first 6 tracks and the last 4 tracks of Arrow are flawless. Craft is good, just doesn't give me the same impression Arrow did.

[I]NIA[/I] is the worst Blackalicious album in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
I agree with everything you just said.

Ledmetalicbeatle 09-06-2005 08:31 PM

[QUOTE=b0mbs_of_death]
Sage Francis reminds me of a hardcore kid that was a poetry nerd. I think some of the Fugazi and Minor Threat references might back me up. I dunno, I was kinda into the preachy hardcore scene of the mid 90's and I just don't need to be preached at at a show since 95% of the time, you are preachin to the converted. I think some of the beats on a healthy distrust were just eh. That's probably why I liked the non prophets record just because the beats were better produced.

Call me crazy.[/QUOTE]
"I go to fugazi shows and request minor threat songs"

he did use to wear denim vest with a metallica patch on the back at freestyle shows.

King_Karl 09-07-2005 10:12 AM

I picked up 2 albums today that i've been meaning to get for a while, they were both in a sale for £5 each!
Dr Dre - The Chronic
Snoop - Doggystle
I totally reccomend these albums to anyone interested in either artist, they are pretty great.

Glitterati 09-08-2005 06:05 PM

'sup thread.

A Tribe Called Quest is one of my favorites right now, I think they were great.

Happymeal 09-08-2005 06:15 PM

Madlib's [I]Shades of Blue[/I] is just really coool.

enjoimx 09-08-2005 06:36 PM

i dont really listen to rap much but some good rappers i listen to/ would reccomend are

del the funkee homosapien ( the rest of the hiero crew too)
acelone ( sp?)
gang starr
lootpack
jurassic 5

yeah youve probably never heard of em, but they are really good, i really like dell. thats all of em i can remember now, but check em out.

edit, yeah a tribe called quest are good as well

Bartender 09-08-2005 07:01 PM

[QUOTE=enjoimx]
acelone ( sp?)
[/QUOTE]

Do you mean Aceyalone? I just listened to Haiku D'Etat's self-titled for the first and second time a week or so ago, and it was disappointing.

Futuro 09-08-2005 08:32 PM

[QUOTE]Snoop - Doggystle[/QUOTE] :shifty: not a fan of that album :)

[QUOTE]Dr Dre - The Chronic [/QUOTE] haha one of my all time favs :)

are the roots considered rap? they are one of my favorite ...rap...bands...? any way i like em alot. :p

Illmatic 09-08-2005 10:49 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]:shifty: not a fan of that album :)

haha one of my all time favs :)

are the roots considered rap? they are one of my favorite ...rap...bands...? any way i like em alot. :p[/QUOTE]

The Roots had three great albums in a row, then went and released Phrenology and The Tipping Point

LF96 09-09-2005 09:37 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]The Roots had three great albums in a row, then went and released Phrenology and The Tipping Point[/QUOTE]
Phrenology is quite good, and so is The Tipping Point (although it's obvious that it's The Roots' least good effort). I really don't see why the latter is hated on here, it's a killer lyrically.

Illmatic 09-09-2005 01:58 PM

[QUOTE=LF96]Phrenology is quite good, and so is The Tipping Point (although it's obvious that it's The Roots' least good effort). I really don't see why the latter is hated on here, it's a killer lyrically.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but both albums as a whole are just lackluster and blah...and the only songs that stick off of either are "Web" and "The Seed 2.0"

DemBonez 09-09-2005 02:55 PM

The Roots have never had an all out amazing album. They usually have really good tracks coupled with decent tracks (which reminds me of Bob Marley a ton). [I]Do You Want More?!!!??![/I] is my least favorite of them, and [I]Things Fall Apart[/I] is my favorite. Everything else is ranked about the same, with possibly [I]Phrenology[/I] the better album out of that bunch. You can't go wrong with any of their albums.

Happymeal 09-09-2005 03:22 PM

I'm recently in love with Kool Keith's voice. It's so sexy.

DemBonez 09-09-2005 03:28 PM

Your avatar is infinitely times better than anything

Happymeal 09-09-2005 05:16 PM

Thank you very much.

LF96 09-10-2005 04:53 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Yeah, but both albums as a whole are just lackluster and blah...and the only songs that stick off of either are "Web" and "The Seed 2.0"[/QUOTE]
"Star", "Water" and "Boom!" are not to be forgotten imo.
I think Do You Want More?!!!??!, Illadelph Halflife and Things Fall Apart are all classic tho.

Glass Onion 09-10-2005 06:14 AM

Hey don't mean to hijack your discussion here but I need help. I've started listening to abit of hip-hop recently and I remember this rap vid i saw awhile ago. I think it was by a guy called K-os and he was walking around and had alot of people wearing masks which I thought resembled Crabs in some way or another. It had a kind've swingy Jazzy feal to it. Anyone know what track I'm talking about?

EDIT: Okies just found the album only, The song was Crabbucket. So yeh....I'm pretty much new to this whole Rap and Hip-hop thing. Recomend me some that isn't Gangsta rap. Thank you :thumb:

Eli 09-10-2005 08:00 AM

Does anyone like Haiku D'Etat? I think if anyone's heard Busdriver and hasn't heard these guys they should! They mix it all up just like Busdriver does, their "coup de theatre" album's great.

[url]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/fk.weatherstone/08-haiku_detat-poetry_takeover-ftd.mp3[/url]

there's a song!

ATM 09-10-2005 10:09 AM

Any Edan fans?

Bartender 09-10-2005 10:22 AM

I have a couple of songs by Edan, that I got from you, I think. They're good, if I remember correctly, but they're on my other (University) computer, so I haven't been listening to them much for a long while now.

ATM 09-10-2005 10:29 AM

:eek:

I was just sent a DJ Qbert album. This is seriously amazing.

Ledmetalicbeatle 09-10-2005 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]:eek:

I was just sent a DJ Qbert album. This is seriously amazing.[/QUOTE]
I saw him live he is amazing fast, I just can't get into DJs though. I never tried and don't know a lot about it but it just seems like it doesn't involve any talent I could be and probably am wrong. Also does anybody know why he just uses one turntable instead of two?

Kayetan 09-10-2005 04:58 PM

Anybody else like Common? "Be" is really good, imo.

left 09-10-2005 05:04 PM

i always liked 7L&Esoteric among many other rap artists.

oh, and if you think that Busta Rhymes or Twista are the fastest mc's in the hip hop world, you should ask me to send you a song from a Romanian band, called R.A.C.L.A (in aproximative translation that means coffin) I tell you guys, i couldnt believe what i was hearing while playing the song. Absolutley amazing. Then i saw them live play it and i was stunned ever since.

yahoo id if anybody is interested : missanntrophe (just leave a message that you are from this forum so i know)


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