they have a great guitar player, when i said he sucked, i meant towords how i have seen him act. i should have put some of my statments in a different way, but i suck at writing.

i do like the band, but i am not holding them like gods. i do appreciate there music, they have inspired a lot of people to pick up an instrument (Me) but i was expressing my views.

Again let me restate, I suck at expressing my views with writing, if i have confused anyone, sorry bout that.

What about how Townshend acted made you not like him?

(I'm not trying to change your views or anything, just curious and starting conversation.)

Oy vei.

Entwistle doing nothing?

He's perhaps the greatest bassist who ever lived (made 3rd place in this forum, which is quite a feat saying how R&M is mostly metalheads), his licks are absolutly phenominal and are rarely, if ever, duplicated or matched. And I loved his stage presense (just stood there looking blank, while playing the most complex stuff in the band).

Keith Moon is ****ing amazing. Geez Faith, being a drummer I'm surprised you don't appreciate him more. He was more style than raw technical aptitude, which is what I look for in a drummer. **** technical aptitude, he roared on the drums and looked like he was having fun.

Roger Daltry could belt better then anybody else with the exception of Freddie Mercury. Plus he swung his mic around, which automatically makes him cooler.

Now Pete is probably technically-wise the worst of the group. He does a pretty decent guitar though, and his stage precense and energy is absolutly phenomnal (just watch TKAA and both Baba and Won't Get Fooled Again, he goes ape **** and STILL plays) and his songwriting is matched by only Ian ANderson and John and Paul.

They kick ***. You'll opinion will change if you see their live show. Trust me, I liked them pretty well listening to the albums, but after watching TKAA, I orgasm over them. Its a whole different trip.

Pete does just fine. He's not all that great a guitarist, but it gets the job done. And he writes the lyrics so that's a huge plus considering how good The Who's lyrics are.

Watching them live during their finer moments still gives me the chills. Especially Townshend's windmills. I love the footage of Young Man Blues on the Isle of Wight Dvd, theres great shots of Townshend doing all kinds of cool stuff with his guitar (windmill, waving it in the air, jumping around). You can always feel the energy coming out of their live footage or live recordings.

entwistle was the greatest rock basisst there ever was. really. its that simple. the real me was improvised in studio. if thats not talent then i dont know what is.

[QUOTE=Lunch]What about how Townshend acted made you not like him?

(I'm not trying to change your views or anything, just curious and starting conversation.)[/QUOTE]
well actually, its the same reason for a lot of bands i dont like, they broke instruments, to me that shows an anger issue or trying to be cool. but i do understand how the times were "back then", But it always seemed pete took it to far. on the live songs in the box-set, he just acts like an ******* when talking to the fans. just not somebody i would want to hang around with.

I love the Real Me on the 30 Years of Maximum R&B box set (it's a version recorded in 1979, yes with Kenney Jones). Well rather, I love the end. Entwistle's part through the majority of the song much less interesting than the Quadrophenia version, but at the end he has an amazing bass solo into the fadeout. It's one of the greatest things I've ever heard.

[QUOTE=Lunch]I love the Real Me on the 30 Years of Maximum R&B box set (it's a version recorded in 1979, yes with Kenney Jones). Well rather, I love the end. Entwistle's part through the majority of the song much less interesting than the Quadrophenia version, but at the end he has an amazing bass solo into the fadeout. It's one of the greatest things I've ever heard.[/QUOTE]
yeah, you posted it in cr. hes so great. if anyone was the hendrix of bass, it was him.

[QUOTE=faith+1]well actually, its the same reason for a lot of bands i dont like, they broke instruments, to me that shows an anger issue or trying to be cool. but i do understand how the times were "back then", But it always seemed pete took it to far. on the live songs in the box-set, he just acts like an ******* when talking to the fans. just not somebody i would want to hang around with.[/QUOTE]

The Who were really the first rock group to destroy their instruments, to me I love that part of their show in the mid-late 60's. But obviously, to each his own.

It's funny you should mention the way he talks to the audience. JohnxDoe brought this up in the last Who thread I think, about how a reviewer of the Live at Boston Dvd commented on the negative way Townshend talked to the audience. To understand The Who, you have to understand how Pete interacts with the audience. He didn't hate them, it was actually quite the opposite. The fans understood that, the outsider usually doesn't.
[QUOTE=PinkFreud]yeah, you posted it in cr. hes so great. if anyone was the hendrix of bass, it was him.[/QUOTE]

I didn't know anyone downloaded it.

I really enjoy "La La Lies"


Very catchy tune, but yes, the who are a great band

[QUOTE=Lunch]I didn't know anyone downloaded it.[/QUOTE]
i did. anything related to entwistle interests me. i absolutely abhor jones' drumming on it though.

[QUOTE=faith+1]well actually, its the same reason for a lot of bands i dont like, they broke instruments, to me that shows an anger issue or trying to be cool. but i do understand how the times were "back then", But it always seemed pete took it to far. on the live songs in the box-set, he just acts like an ******* when talking to the fans. just not somebody i would want to hang around with.[/QUOTE]

Well much of The Who's music was angry and violent. If that's not your cup of tea, then you most likely won't like them as much as others. Raw aggression and identity issues were all thrown on the table in Townshends writing, and The Who expressed this best from the stage. Hence the smashing of the instruments. Which was completely appropriate in The Who's case. No other band could or can do what The Who once did onstage. And those who have tried have come off as foolish posers. To understand The Who and thier motives you have to do a bit of research and a lot of listening. And a good deal of reading, too. And even if after that it doesn't click for you, you should definitely understand where they were coming from. Especially Townshend.

Oh, and Townshend has never been an as[COLOR=WHITE]shole[/COLOR] to the fans. That's just Pete being Pete. The fans know what that means. It's all good. We wouldn't have it any other way.

Alright, just merged the new The Who thread with this one.

[QUOTE=3074326]Alright, just merged the new The Who thread with this one.[/QUOTE]
I love you, in the way a forum user loves a good moderator. :thumb:

Yea, I really wouldn't have Pete any other way. I've always been a big fan of them smashing their instruments.

The Who Board is ALIVE! A monster is reborn!

LONG LIVE ROCK! :smash:

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]The Who Board is ALIVE! A monster is reborn!

LONG LIVE ROCK! :smash:[/QUOTE]

Don't let this one die out on us. I know you tried your best to keep the old one alive.

[QUOTE=Lunch]Don't let this one die out on us. I know you tried your best to keep the old one alive.[/QUOTE]

I really did. And this is spurring me on. But with thier plans on hold for new stuff for the time being, it's kind of difficult. It got a bit of a boost with Live 8, but then went flat again. I suppose I can dig up some news and post more excerpts from biographies of the band. Another of which I just came across. I'll give it a daily shot and see what happens. This evenings activity has been very encouraging. And it's great that the threads have been merged. Lot's of new energy in the thread now. That's great.

Yea, I like it too.

So uh, The Who Sell Out is a great record.

its cool


dreaming from the waist is another great bass performance.

Live at Leeds is a great bass performance. That album really never ceases to amaze me, for the overall energy, Keith Moon's constant wall of sound, and Entwistle's overall greatness. Heaven and Hell especially.

I'm going out of town for a few days, keep this thread alive guys.

heaven and hell is good.

young man blues is another.

Heaven and Hell is fricken phenomnal.

It wasn't even on an album, was it?

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Heaven and Hell is fricken phenomnal.

It wasn't even on an album, was it?[/QUOTE]
i dont believe so. entwistle wrote it.

i BOUGHT The Tommy album yestaday,I'ts areally good listen

^^ Niiice. Enjoy it to the fullest.

Gotta put this thread back on the first page.

I don't think Roger Daltry is given enough credit as a singer. Not only was he an amazing vocalist, he had extra pressure, as he was singing Townshend's lyrics. As we all know, Pete's a very meticulous guy when writing his songs, and it must be hard to give your own personal lyrics to another singer.

I think praise must be given to Roger for, in my opinion, singing Pete's lyrics better than alot of people could.

uhh...discuss Roger Daltry as a vocalist?

hes quite powerful and he has a ok range. i prefer him over plant and his other contemporaries but i think vocalists have only improved as each generation passes. he was an overlooked front man though, because of townshends energy. people fail to realize that daltrey met that energy every night.

Not as good as people now? I say the opposite. I have yet to hear an outstanding male lead singer from the past 10 years.

He's, in my opinion one of the top 10 rock singers of all time. I haven't heard a better singer in a popular rock band since Freddie Mercury died in 1991.