No, Rage Against the Machine are not punk. They do belong here.

[QUOTE=HiP-h0p |\|4zi]guys don't mind me saying this but isn't Rage aganist the machine punk whats it doing here.
But Rage is awesome[/QUOTE]
How on earth are RATM punk? Could you explain that for me please?

I heard some where that Kashmir by Led Zeppelin and Wake up by Rage have similiarities, are they similar riffs or what?

How'd this get on page 3...

I'd say they have maybe som Punkish lyrics...
F*** society and so on...

[QUOTE=Jesus Macaroni]I'd say they have maybe som Punkish lyrics...
F*** society and so on...[/QUOTE]

It really isn't about "f***in" society, and even if it was political lyrics aren't a punk exclusive genre.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]How'd this get on page 3...[/QUOTE]

Because you decided to post, and enough people had posted to put this onto the third page

There is a lot of punk in what RATM did.
so says I.

[QUOTE=Maggies_Farmer]There is a lot of punk in what RATM did.
so says I.[/QUOTE]
I think this is the first time that I have ever seen you post out of the Guitar forum

How can you really go about classifying Rage's style? They were really all over the place.

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]I didn't even know Tom Morello was in Audioslave when I first heard it. I figured it out because of that awesome sound he has. Truly a unique sound.[/QUOTE]

He uses way less effects in Audioslave than he did in RATM, which dissapoints me. However, it fits better with the sound of Audioslave with the smaller amount of effects.

[QUOTE=superfascist]How can you really go about classifying Rage's style? They were really all over the place.[/QUOTE]

Rap Funk metal

Thank God somebadt brought up rage, I absolutely love rage! I borrowed ST from one of my punk-rock friends, I had no clue who they were, I thaought they were like the germs or somethin'. anyway nobody else in the **** city I live in likes them, It's just me and my friend.

[QUOTE=DekWannaBFlea]I heard some where that Kashmir by Led Zeppelin and Wake up by Rage have similiarities, are they similar riffs or what?[/QUOTE]

I don't think so. There are plenty of songs that sound a lot like Kashmir in the rythm. "Rock Superstar" by Cypress Hill is the only one I can think of at the moment. Good rap song.

[QUOTE=Flea]Zach left because he felt as though the band wasn't accomplishing as much as it could. For example, Mumia Abu Jamal is still in prison. Zach supported the Zapatista movement which is the uprising of militants in Mexico over lost land due to infringement of Constitution rights.
As for Rage reuniting, Morello is still quite active in political action and we all know how Zach always was fuelled by hipocrisy and political injustice. I'm not saying it's an impossibility, however unlikely.
But seeing how much Morello assists other artists, I'm not surprised if Morello and de la Rocha reunite within 5 or 10 years.
I'm going to say that Rage's self titled album was the best. It was heavier and more charged than any other album, although BoLA was a good result after Evil Empire.
Renegades was a cover album of influences. I'd say it's fine, especially the cover of "The Ghost of Tom Joad", originally by Springsteen. Morello's guitar work never ceases to amaze me.
Tom's best solo, I'd say, is probably the "Bullet in the Head" solo. The "Darkness" solo is nice and jazzy, though. Very nice work either way.
Tom does use primarily 99999 88888 77777 solos, but he uses effects so heavily that you can't tab a thing 100% accurate on their later songs. He is, however, quite capable of more than just 999999 888888 77777777.
I think Timmy C. is probably one of the most underrated bassists around. The opening on "Calm Like a Bomb" is very nice and smooth, similar to a verse of chorus by Flea of RHCP. "Bombtrack" has a great opening. Flea gets all the credit for awesomeness, but Tim deserves more than a few "Good work" critiques.
I think Hammet is overrated as guitarists go. I rarely hear any emotion from his solos. It's like a machine is playing them. Fast, yes, but it's too **** cold for me to care. My opinions are my own, however.
The live DVDs are worth the money.[/QUOTE]

You really can't compare hammett and morello because their styles are so different. If you wanted to get down to technical **** hammetts probably a better player, but in the end its just an opinion. I also don't think timmy c or brad wilk are underrated at all. I think theyre ok at what they do but brad rarely does anything special on the drums and the same goes with timmy. I think the only one that excels at what they do in ratm is tom, but nevertheless im still a huge rage fan.

[QUOTE=lucky luciano]You really can't compare hammett and morello because their styles are so different. If you wanted to get down to technical **** hammetts probably a better player, but in the end its just an opinion. I also don't think timmy c or brad wilk are underrated at all. I think theyre ok at what they do but brad rarely does anything special on the drums and the same goes with timmy. I think the only one that excels at what they do in ratm is tom, but nevertheless im still a huge rage fan.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you that Tim and Brad are not extremely great at what they do, but they are still very underrated. However, as a group, they have the most amazing "meshing" as a whole. It's more of one insturment playing, rather than a group of guys playing music.

i reackon battle of LA and s/t are the best albums

Evil Empire > BOLA

[QUOTE=Vio-lence]Evil Empire > BOLA[/QUOTE]

Any particular reason why?

i just thought overall it was a better album. I thought BOLA had a few weaker tracks (like born of ghosts, never liked that much).

I'm with you on that one. BOLA is their least consistent album by far IMO. It has some really, [I]really[/I] great tracks, but others that aren't so great

I always just thought of Evil Empire and Battle of Los Angeles as equally inferior to the self-titled.

[QUOTE=DekWannaBFlea]I heard some where that Kashmir by Led Zeppelin and Wake up by Rage have similiarities, are they similar riffs or what?[/QUOTE]
a dude from allmusic.com who reviewed their debut cd said that the main riff from wake up was really similar to kashmir, but who the fuk cares, of course i never heard kashmir for sure but its probably nothing like it, and i dont intend to ever find out

I think that all the albums have their own feel to them. The first album seems so raw and stripped down. Evil Empire was like that too but some of the songs on it seemed to be full of depth. The Battle of Los Angeles seemed really atmospheric to me with the way that Tom used his effects and such. Renegades was kinda out in left field being a cover album.

What does everyone think of the live album?

[QUOTE=Malakian Worshipper]a dude from allmusic.com who reviewed their debut cd said that the main riff from wake up was really similar to kashmir, but who the fuk cares, of course i never heard kashmir for sure but its probably nothing like it, and i dont intend to ever find out[/QUOTE]

The strumming pattern is similar but the notes are different. Only the very beginning of the riff sounds like Kashmir.

The self titled RATM is the best album, no contest. Every single song is awsem and packed full of energy. whenever I listen to them I just get hyped up and want to start a mosh pit in my living room. I would kill to have the skillz that Tom has on the guitar.
Evil Empire and Battle of L.A. are great, but not quite like the first album. I just wish they were still together cuzz I never got to see them in concert. ****

The self titled RATM is the best album, no contest. Every single song is awsem and packed full of energy. whenever I listen to them I just get hyped up and want to start a mosh pit in my living room. I would kill to have the skillz that Tom has on the guitar.
Evil Empire and Battle of L.A. are great, but not quite like the first album. I just wish they were still together cuzz I never got to see them in concert. ****

The self titled RATM is the best album, no contest. Every single song is awsem and packed full of energy. whenever I listen to them I just get hyped up and want to start a mosh pit in my living room. I would kill to have the skillz that Tom has on the guitar.
Evil Empire and Battle of L.A. are great, but not quite like the first album. I just wish they were still together cuzz I never got to see them in concert.

Was it necessary to say that three times?

[QUOTE=superfascist]I think that all the albums have their own feel to them. The first album seems so raw and stripped down. Evil Empire was like that too but some of the songs on it seemed to be full of depth. The Battle of Los Angeles seemed really atmospheric to me with the way that Tom used his effects and such. Renegades was kinda out in left field being a cover album.

What does everyone think of the live album?[/QUOTE]
I have the dvd, which is **** good. Although maybe 1 more song from Evil Empire would have been nice, like Vietnow or Down Rodeo, becasue besides the Renegades tracks, its pretty much the same setlist as Battle Of Mexico City.