[QUOTE=Espbassor]Music therapy?! How awesome is that? I've never even heard of that before. It kind of makes me sad though, because I've always been intresting in psychology, and I just really started getting to music, but I'm almost done my bachelors at my school now :upset:

I really should have picked up bass a lot earlier, maybe I would be here staring at text editors all day :upset:[/QUOTE]

Bachelors in what?

I mean... if you are getting one in psych, then you can get your masters in music therapy. You would have to look for a school that does an equivalency program, because you would be missing alot of the music aspect of it.

If you are interested... Temple University, here in Philadelphia (where I live, and plan on attending) does the equivalency... I'll basically be getting my bachelors and masters in music therapy at the same time, and it's only like.. and extra 30 credits
LR

[QUOTE=gaslight]
And LR, you sound like you're really enjoying life and music :). That's v cool.[/QUOTE]


Heh.... :( I do greatly enjoy what I do and what I intend to do.

Enjoying life is another topic all together...

:upset:
LR

Corporate Cyber Security is my major. I've always been good with computers and I know there is tons of high paying jobs and job security for it so I chose to do that sort of work. That was before I started playing though. So, I'd probably have to start out fresh or something if I want to change majors. I figure since I'm close to finish this major, I might as well finish it and then do something else in addition to that. That way I have something to fall back on.

You live in philly? Thats awesome, my home town is in Coatesville, which is maybe and hour or more away from philly. My school is located in summerdale, which is across the river from harrisburg. What a small world!

[QUOTE=LightRaven]Heh.... :( I do greatly enjoy what I do and what I intend to do.

Enjoying life is another topic all together...

:upset:
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Ah... well said.

:(

[QUOTE=LightRaven]Well, think about it... if you are anything like me... I use writing songs as an emotional healing of sorts. Alot of people used to know.. but perhaps not anymore, that I suffer from severe depression. And one of the very very few.. it only the one.. positive way I deal with it.. is writing music.

Now imagine being able to teach people that. To give them that outlet. So that they don't have to resort to negative coping methods.

Other things about music therapy.. it can be used with autistic children.. you know, the ones who are stuck in their own little world. Studies have found that there are two things that can bring them into the real world: Math and music. I've worked with an autistic child once... and I cannot express the profound feeling I had when I finally was able to get through to that child and bring him into the real world... that he was able to see me, hear me and understand me... recognize me. for them, it's like being stuck in a day dream...

Alzhiemers patients also react to music... and are able to be brought back into the real world through music...

It's a wonderful career.. very fulfilling. I get to do the two things I love absolutely best: Helping people, and teaching/helping people with music.

LR[/QUOTE]



That's really cool. I wasn't doubting that the concept is there ... but I never really thought that you could make a career doing that.




:amaze:

so where are you in college, LR, when do you graduate, and what jobs do you plan on seeking, on a side, note i just realized the my school has 5 upright players, hmmm 4 are female. The guy, is like the best uprightist ever, he is going to juliard, but the girls are amazing,one is going to yale, other to princeton, etc. it seemes like alot of females, are into basses and like,very cool. i wish more girls played bass guitar though.

sounds beautiful... the helping autistic kids with music thing.

[QUOTE=LightRaven]
Alzhiemers patients also react to music... and are able to be brought back into the real world through music...

LR[/QUOTE]

This is fascinating - I started studying the physiology of the brain recently, it's an incredibly interesting area. I suppose listening to music uses quite a lot of different areas of the brain - aside from simple hearing, there's a huge emotional context as well, and things like that... Actually, I'd be interested to learn how people with damaged Broca's Areas area able to get on learning music, or how strongly people with damaged Wernike's Areas react to hearing it...

Keep us posted!

What are you studying Wintermute? It sounds very intresting :thumb: I wish I would have gone with psychology or something as a major :D

Actually I've just finished a Biology A level, but I'm starting a Biology degree next year at Durham Uni (if I get the right grades). We don't have to specialise right away, but I'm likely to do go into that area, because it's really really interesting.

Incidentally, Broca's Area is the part of the brain which is to do with expressing yourself, primarily in speech and writing, but I'd be interested to know how big a part it plays in musical expression, and Wernike's Area is the part which is to do with comprehension speech and writing, but again I'd be interested to know how big a part it plays in Musical comprehension, if it features at all.

It would be quite easy to test, if you had a big enough budget (i.e. a stereo, some instruments, a volunteer, and thousands and thousands of pounds worth of brain scanning equipment.

[QUOTE=Espbassor]Corporate Cyber Security is my major.[/QUOTE]

I.... didn't.... know there was ... such a major.. :amaze:

Here's the thing about having "somthing to fall back on." While, it's a really logical way of thinking about things and planning your future, almost 99% of people who major in something as a fall back because their desired feild is a bit risky... fall back on what they planned.

It's sort of psychosumatic. While having a net while walking a trapeze is fine, using it is sort of ... bad. Life saver, yes... but, psychologically, your brain knows its there and therefore, you tend not to fully commit yourself to your desired field.

My parents tried to pull that on me... "Why don't you minor in education.." stuff like that. First of all... I am dead set against teaching in a public school. I come from the philly schools, and while I am eternally grateful that they gave me my start in music.... I can also safely say that they held me back in the same respect. Public school teachers are fighters.. they are heros.. they have to battle their students, the rules, what's right, what's fair, the parents.... it's exhausting. I do not have the patience for students who are taking music lessons as an excuse to get out of class once a week... I do not have the patience or the calm mouth to deal with buearacratic red tape and people trying to cut music out of the budget. I, being a person who doesn't mind conflict.. would eventually get fired for telling some stupid principle off.

That is not my calling... and I knew it. I enjoy teaching... it is a part of my calling... but I prefer to do it with people who want to be there. Which is my current situation.

Well, I guess you could always finish this bachelor, and then have it support you while you school in what you really want to do ;)

I will tell you this much: It is rare in this age and day, that a person can wake up in the morning, and not dread having to go to work. I haven't met many people who don't groan about work, who don't really want to get up and go to work... This includes my parents, my brother, my BF... a huge percentage of everyone that I know, have known or met.

I am grateful that this isn't the case with me. I love work. I actually go to work to escape my fricken house! I love my students, I know everything about them.. their grades, their friends, their family... their problems...

You really want to strive for what YOU want to do in life... not what other's think is appropriate... not what your parents think will support you. My brother, who is now 29, is back living at home... (aside from alot of poor decisions on his part...) his job, and his lack of wanting to be in his field... and my parent's constant push for him to do it "because he is good at it.." has landed him here.... and he is miserable. And his life was in pieces... And slowly but surely, I am helping him to pick them back up... and helping him realize what he wants to do, and how he has to get there (so ironic... the younger sister picking up her brother's life)... while my parents sit there are frown and pester him about how he is good at what he does...

I'm sorry... but both me and my brother watch my parents, see how they are miserable at work.. come home and escape on a computer.. and we don't want that.

Think about it.

LR

[QUOTE=Wintermute]Actually I've just finished a Biology A level, but I'm starting a Biology degree next year at Durham Uni (if I get the right grades). We don't have to specialise right away, but I'm likely to do go into that area, because it's really really interesting.[/QUOTE]


[random] I've played at Durham Cathedral! :D [/random]

LR

[QUOTE=LightRaven][random] I've played at Durham Cathedral! :D [/random]

LR[/QUOTE]
lucky... or accomplished is more accurate... LR. please look at my other thread on the thread list. i think youll know the answer

Really? It's a great Cathedral, isn't it? It's really got the whole imposing architecture thing going on. The college I will be at at University (thinking about it the terminology is rather convoluted, the meaning of college here is quite different to how it was previously used) is very very close to the Cathedral.

Let me know if you play there again in the next few years at term time!

[QUOTE=LightRaven]Think about it.

LR[/QUOTE]

I know most of that, because I used to major in database administration. I ended up dropping out because I got stressed out, then I same back and saw this major. I thought it would be fun, sort of the anti-hacking job. It is fun to a point, but some of the stuff can get repeative and boring though.

As far as getting into a major I'd like, like psychology or any music major, I'd have a hard time finding a college to accept me at this point. My grades aren't always the best and I started music late, and still haven't really learned any theory (except for some stuff from BV :D ). I'd have to work my tail off to try and get into a decent school at this point :upset:

Actually, maybe I can do what my one friend is going to do. He just graduating and is taking his internship at Shippensburg as a network admin. While he's there he gets free classes! Maybe I could do that at a school that has some of these majors (like Temple for instance...). Hmmm....

[QUOTE=Bass+Fingers+Amp=Groove]so where are you in college, LR, when do you graduate, and what jobs do you plan on seeking, on a side, note i just realized the my school has 5 upright players, hmmm 4 are female. The guy, is like the best uprightist ever, he is going to juliard, but the girls are amazing,one is going to yale, other to princeton, etc. it seemes like alot of females, are into basses and like,very cool. i wish more girls played bass guitar though.[/QUOTE]

Heh... that's a hard question to answer :eek:... um... I guess I am "technically" not in school. I attended Rowan University (in Glassboro, Gloucester county, NJ)for .... 5 years... I have basically finished every dam class and credit.. I have probably a little over 200 credits... but because I cannot do my senior recital, because of my depression, they won't let me graduate with my two degree's in Performance Classical, and Performance, Jazz.

Like I said before, they told me that I could have had both my arms chopped off and they still wouldn't let me graduate. They basically hate me there now... and the feeling is mutual. After all I did for them... they can go screw themselves.

So I've switched to a BA, which is a bachelors in arts... music specific. And then they told me I have 20 more credits I have to take. Which... it a bunch of BS. If they can't take the 40 EXTRA credits I have and apply them to the 20 "extra" I have to take.. there is going to be a nice big ol' rumble. Philly style.

Soon as I have that stupid piece of paper I will be going to Temple University (Philly) to get my masters in music therapy.

As for jobs... I plan on keeping my current job for as long as I wish. I love where I work and I have alot of responsibility. I don't "just" teach there. I teach so much and do so many other things. I teach bass guitar, guitar, Upright, piano for small children. I teach the musical funtime program, which is music for children ages 2 and up (sounds stupid or weird? I had a 4 year old play Ode To Joy on the piano three weekends ago at our Annual Recital.. I have another 4 year old who is just recently picking up the piano, but can read treble clef flawlessly)... I teach the little mozart's class.. which is a piano class for children 4-5.. I teach the theory and jazz theory classes, and I teach the songwriting and recording classes. I also head and write their newsletter, including drawing all the graphics (took forever).. and I teach at a few daycare centers for my work.. and I do other things too as needed. Soon I'll be the webmaster of our website.. it sucks right now.

Other than that.. when I get my masters in music therapy, I plan on being a music therapist.. lol

LR

You get my enormous respect, as does anyone with the patience to deal with small children for protracted periods of time. Also for being so obviously musically knowledgeable.

[QUOTE=bassweasel]lucky... or accomplished is more accurate... LR. please look at my other thread on the thread list. i think youll know the answer[/QUOTE]


Answered :D

Lucky? Accomplished? Meh.. I dunno which to choose from.. i've toured Europe twice with an orchestra.

And I will say that Durham cathedral is the ABSOLUTE BEST place for an orchestra to play for it acoustic abilities. We'd stop a piece... omg... Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings, my absolute favorite song... so extremely sad, we'd stop and the whole cathedral was just carrying our last notes on and on forever... it was beautiful. I cried.

[/stupid girl] :lol:

LR

[QUOTE=Wintermute]You get my enormous respect, as does anyone with the patience to deal with small children for protracted periods of time. Also for being so obviously musically knowledgeable.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Thank you... maybe now people will get why I tend to be more short tempered on here.. :lol: I save my patience for my students... :lol:

LR

[QUOTE=LightRaven]Answered :D

Lucky? Accomplished? Meh.. I dunno which to choose from.. i've toured Europe twice with an orchestra.

And I will say that Durham cathedral is the ABSOLUTE BEST place for an orchestra to play for it acoustic abilities. We'd stop a piece... omg... Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings, my absolute favorite song... so extremely sad, we'd stop and the whole cathedral was just carrying our last notes on and on forever... it was beautiful. I cried.

[/stupid girl] :lol:

LR[/QUOTE]
thats awesome, i got to play in my churchs cathedral today. pretty fun experience but that^^^ i might cry too

A friend of mine sung there in a choir, and couldn't stop talking about the acoustics of the place... Hats off to the architect, that's for sure.

I wish I could take some of your classes, they sound really cool. But I'm a little over 4 years old. :upset: Can I still be in your class?? :D

Just reading this thread and all the things you've discussed, LightRaven, has really gotten me thinking about life and what I really want to pursue. My parents are trying to force me into an Information Technology major (and I hate computers). I would rather struggle being a musician than make loads of money doing something I hate.

Light raven through your subtle dropping ins on the double bass threads i decided to pick it up and its great fun thanks yah heather!

[QUOTE=UncleJam]Just reading this thread and all the things you've discussed, LightRaven, has really gotten me thinking about life and what I really want to pursue. My parents are trying to force me into an Information Technology major (and I hate computers). I would rather struggle being a musician than make loads of money doing something I hate.
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Whatever you do don't go into a career you hate. Worst move you can make.

^ Yep, there are way too many people like that in the world now. It's the biggest fear I have.

I vowed never to dedicate myself to a career I didn't love after watching my dad come home furious so often. Especially as he seems to find it hard to keep his temper to himself.

My father is the same way. He's been stuck in a job he hates for 11 years and it pains me to even think about ending up that way.

What do you wish to do with your life anyways, Wintermute?

It's an interesting question. I'm really not sure. I'm going to do this degree in Biology, and if any of the specialisations turn out to really fascinate me, as I think they may, then I'll likely pursue a scientific career. You have to be carefull doing that, though. I did a work experience in a Pathogenics and Biochemistry lab, and it was one of the most exhausting and boring fortnights of my life. Bench science isn't for me, I don't think.

I'm still looking around and researching alternatives right now, but one of the things I'm considering is a sound engineer, or similar music related disciplines.

I'm basically undecided as yet. I know what I don't want (an office job, a bench science job, anything with too much repetition or beaurocracy) but I don't quite know what I do want yet.

[QUOTE=PoltikBass]I wish I could take some of your classes, they sound really cool. But I'm a little over 4 years old. :upset: Can I still be in your class?? :D[/QUOTE]


:lol: Only a few of my classes are for younger kids.. the rest are for people your age ;)

LR