[QUOTE=Killtacular]
Yes, because 4/4 is just so off the wall, only Germans can comprehend it.

[/QUOTE]
Go listen to Fermented Offal Discharge and get back to me.

Pain of Salvation's "People Passing By" has a section of the song with four bars alternating between 12/8, 15/8, 12/8, and 18/8. So basically if you want to a be a pretentious prog-head you could say the riff is in 57/8 time.

[QUOTE=Deth]Go listen to Fermented Offal Discharge and get back to me.[/QUOTE]
I did. 4/4. Good game.

The only Necrophagist song I can think of not in common time is Seven, which is in, surprisingly, 7/8.

no time signature is too weird anymore :rolleyes:

i dont see the need to have so many time sig. changes. sometimes, it disrupts the flow of the musical line

Because it makes you cool.

Why else would you do anything unusual?

For me, writing in wierd time signatures is just sort of a way to purely write music for myself. Like today, I wrote a riff in 7/4, but transcribed it in 4/4. 3 phrases of the 7 riff, and an added riff played in 4, while the drums are playing in 4 the entire time. I like it, but I doubt anyone else would think it was even coherent. :p

mm i guess so.
but i swear sometimes it's done just so that they can...say they did it.
im the biggest dream theater fanboy, but sometimes their use of polyrhtyhms over and over again really annoys me.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]For me, writing in wierd time signatures is just sort of a way to purely write music for myself. Like today, I wrote a riff in 7/4, but transcribed it in 4/4. 3 phrases of the 7 riff, and an added riff played in 4, while the drums are playing in 4 the entire time. I like it, but I doubt anyone else would think it was even coherent. :p[/QUOTE]
It's called syncopation, except your's is more extended.....


Ewww extended.
[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]mm i guess so.
but i swear sometimes it's done just so that they can...say they did it.
im the biggest dream theater fanboy, but sometimes their use of polyrhtyhms over and over again really annoys me.[/QUOTE]
DT doesn't use polyrhythms much...

Sometimes I change time sigs to "free up" the song.. Shake it a bit loose, make it feel less formularic

idk i think it's fine. just not in excess. then it starts to really sound disjointed.

what exactly are polyrhythms then moses?
maybe im under the wrong impression of what they are...

[QUOTE]It's called syncopation, except your's is more extended.....


Ewww extended.[/QUOTE]

I take pride in my extention, thank you very much. :p

So, for the sake of solidifying my understanding of 'syncopation,' would the main riff of Schism be syncopated into bars of 5 and 7 when really it's just a riff of 12 beats?

What is a polyrhthym?

Drums play in y/4, guitars play in x/4, where x is anything other than y.

John Cage's 4'33"

[QUOTE=Atman]John Cage's 4'33"[/QUOTE]
John Cage FTW
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[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Drums play in y/4, guitars play in x/4, where x is anything other than y.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, thank you. 'Learn somethin new everyday.

[QUOTE=gillygan]What is a polyrhthym?[/QUOTE]
Listen to tools new album :thumb:. Its loaded with polyrhythms. Especially on Rosetta Stoned! And Jambi.
If you listen to Eulogy during the drum break he is playing different limbs in different time signatures. That will give you an idea of what a polyrhythm is.

I was hoping that was coherent enough to understand, heh.

Well, the different limb thing is just known as something along the lines of "independant drumming" or some **** like that. It's apparently really hard to do. I can see why.

I've done it before on my belly. RH in 3/4 LH in 4/4.

:cool:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_in_irregular_time_signatures[/url]


:)

I saw that list once. Not exactly close to complete.

I was at a friends house the other day, and he let me listen to this song he's been working on. It is really in no time signature at all, but all of the parts (guitar, bass, drums) match up. Essentially, it's random spurts of sound laiden with a lot of rests in between. :p It's still cool though. Very Fantomas-esque while maintaining the same style.

So..I guess it's not very Fantomas-esque, heh.

[QUOTE=CocaineAndCrucifixes]Well, the different limb thing is just known as something along the lines of "independant drumming" or some **** like that. It's apparently really hard to do. I can see why.[/QUOTE]
yeah thats a polyrhythm
cant use grammar or punctuation because keyboard broke
and to jack destructo yeah three over four is a good easy one to tap out

[QUOTE=metal_milita]
but i believe main verse of MOP was written in 4/4 and 13/16.[/QUOTE]
Im pretty sure that entire song is in 4/4 though I could be mistaken. Bach liked to switch around in time signatures here and there. Dream Theater is the master of switching time signatures without you even knowing it. Between the Buried and Me... I couldnt even tell you what time signature their sh1t is in. I doubt they even have a time signature, it sounds like they play until theyre tired.

Sorry but TDEP, Meshuggah, Spastic Ink and Planet X are the top rhythm guys right now,

Spastic Ink, holy crap. They amaze to no end.

Bobby Jarzombek is a ****ing crazy drummer. I swear he should have gotten farther in the polls.

There's a powertab of Dillinger Escape Plan's "43% Burnt" if you'd like to see some odd time sig changes.

[url]http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/d/dillinger_escape_plan/43_burnt_power_tab.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Moses]Bobby Jarzombek is a ****ing crazy drummer. I swear he should have gotten farther in the polls.[/QUOTE]
He is GROSSLY underrated, as is Ron at guitar. Those two are so ****ing original, and they're related. Not fair.

I can't wait for Ron Jarzombek's new project with Alex Webster and Derek Roddy

[QUOTE=Moses]Sorry but TDEP, Meshuggah, Spastic Ink and Planet X are the top rhythm guys right now,[/QUOTE]

Fukk, I just downloaded "School", it's awesome.