He said around the 19th, and where I am, it still is the 19th for another 40 minutes...so lay off him, personally I give him kudos for keeping up with this for so long and keeping it so informative...

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Yeah, you should lay off of him consider your happness at he has chosen to do this.

You'd be worse off if he chose not to.

Right the kitchen is done now, with the exception of the cooker hood and the carpet, It's quite nice to have a working kitchen, but I'm on a boxers diet so there isn't much I can cook anyhow :)

I should be doing the next Issue today when I get back from college, I'm too sleepy to stay in for DJ tech.

I'm gonna try and do some bits on copyright and the preforming rights society.

^yup, that's what i wanna read next.

guys, i was only being sarcastic... i knew i should've use a smiley or something. well at least he knows i was only joking, like my previous posts.

can't say this enough: kudos to kocaine!

I do promise to get the article done tommorrow, Sorry it's been about twenty days late, I am currently panicing over a gig in approximately 3 hours.

Good luck with the gig...and I can understand the time it took to re-do a kitchen...been there, done that :upset:

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[QUOTE=KKKKKocaine]I do promise to get the article done tommorrow, Sorry it's been about twenty days late, I am currently panicing over a gig in approximately 3 hours.[/QUOTE]

a 1pm gig? explain

err, he lives in england I think. It was 3pm when he posted that, so the gig must be at about 6pm

Well I just got back from the gig.
How did it go?
Well to put it one way, after our set we were met by a man, he informed us he worked for Creative FM and did an hours set on fridays showcasing local bands, He'd recorded our set live and loved it, and was there to tell us we'd be on tommorrows show, he then gave us his phone number and asked us to call him when we got a demo done, he then went through his credentials and listed some of the groups he'd worked with e.t.c.
The headliners said we were great, the other bands said we were great, although this was wasted flattery in trying to get me to come to the pit.
All in all it was great, and it was most humerous to be referred to as
"hey bandage these hearts guy, your great"

All in all, it was a fantastic gig.

Wow, sounded great. Could be hearing about your band in the not to distant future then...

do you guys have a webby?

[url]www.bandage-these-hearts.tk[/url]

Demo coming in about 3-4 weeks.

For some reason it's coming up with musician forums in front... weird. Anyway, congrats on the radio stuff man! :thumb:

theres the proper link:
[url]http://www.bandage-these-hearts.tk/[/url]

:naughty:

btw, what do you play KKKKKocaine?

he plays drums, and background vox?

not sure if you've already an issue on this, but maybe something on PA systems?

I thought he did vocals...

I think hes still writing the other article

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]
not sure if you've already an issue on this, but maybe something on PA systems?[/QUOTE]

Or just music tech in general?? That is, for the issue after next.

[QUOTE=bmxinbassist]
btw, what do you play KKKKKocaine?[/QUOTE]

I can play,
Drums
Clarinet
Recorder
Piano
Glockenspiel
Vibraphone
Vocals

I cannot however, even begin to understand the basic concept of guitars or other string instruments, I have amazing respect for anyone who can listen to a piece of music and work out what string the guitarist is playing, with what finger on what fret e.t.c.

However, in the band I just do vocals. :)

Just a quick question..What songs are bands expected to know when playing a party? Kkkkkocain said somewhere (at least I think its him) that having a band at a party is kind of like having a live jukebox..So what should this jukebox have in it?

it depends what type of party it is and who it id for. if its for a load of metal heads then you dont want to be covering some hardcore trance album do you? it all depends really

I dont have a gig or anything coming up, hell I dony ever have a band, but I'd like to know this stuff. Just..songs that bands are expected to know if they're playing like a fourth of July party for their friends party.

[QUOTE=KKKKKocaine]I can play,
Drums
Clarinet
Recorder
Piano
Glockenspiel
Vibraphone
Vocals

I cannot however, even begin to understand the basic concept of guitars or other string instruments, I have amazing respect for anyone who can listen to a piece of music and work out what string the guitarist is playing, with what finger on what fret e.t.c.

However, in the band I just do vocals. :)[/QUOTE]

wow, u'r so cook! :cool: :thumb:
i wanna learn a few things too, like the glockenspie, drums, piano and clarinetl! too bad i play only the guitar. and bass, if i use pick, which is kinda like cheating... heh.

but how can u not understand the finger on what fret? i mean, that's the same as which finger on which hole (on the clarinet, not... u knmow) or on which key of the piano.

I think he means more along the lines of figuring out something by listening to the music.

[QUOTE=doggonit]
but how can u not understand the finger on what fret? i mean, that's the same as which finger on which hole (on the clarinet, not... u knmow) or on which key of the piano.[/QUOTE]

Well look at it this way, you are listening to a piece of music, and tabbing the drums, each drum has a specific noise, snare, bass drum, floor tom, mid tom, high tom, hi-hats, crash, splash, china, ride.
Now when listening to a beat, you can easily tell when the snare is being played rather than the bassdrum.
However most of the sounds created on the guitar are not from purely individual strings, but from finger placement on certain frets, which when combined with different tunings, creates a vast multitude of potential sounds, thus in my opinion, listening to someone play the guitar and working out what string and where is harder than listening to someone play the drums and saying which drum where.

[QUOTE]Just a quick question..What songs are bands expected to know when playing a party? Kkkkkocain said somewhere (at least I think its him) that having a band at a party is kind of like having a live jukebox..So what should this jukebox have in it?[/QUOTE]

That would depend entirely on the type of party, the age group and your band.
If you are playing a school or college party, you will probably want punky things like Blink 182 which can appeal across the board to people, the good old anthemns and such, the ones that have you humming on your way home.

At a wedding, you want things you can dance to more, but a little bit upbeat, not some depressing slow emo songs, something happy that everyone from little Susy to Aunty Jenniffer can get up and get their groove on to.

Those are the only two parties I can think of :p As for specific songs, Someone else will be better with that, I'm not very in touch with the more popular considered forms of music, I've heard about 3 metallica songs, 2 guns and roses, no iron maiden, No jimi hendrix and so forth :)
As a general rule though, if it sounds appropriate then it probably is :)

A little Mini Edition to make up for my massive lateness.

Do you need a demo?

Yes, You do.
In fact, if you don't have any aspirations of getting a 2-3 track demo done, you may as well not be in a band.
When you start out, every gig and other band you want to play with, will ask the same question.
Do you have anything we can listen to?
You can beg and try and reassure them that you are good all you like, it may work and it may not, but put yourself in their shoes.

I come to your house, with an order form, talk to you for a while, then announce what I am trying to sell,

"Well you see Mrs.Smith, I have made a new product, called smackowipes, they will wipe off anything from a surface, so how many can I put you down for?"

Mrs Smith "Well can I see a demonstration?"

"Oh erm... I don't have one"

Now, as silly as it is, you wouldn't buy the guys wipes, you don't know what your paying for, This is the way the venue feels, they only want you to play to bring more punters in, for their profit, if you can't show them you are professional, they will be aprehensive unless you manage to slip into a gig with some big guns under their wing.

Whilst a demo doesn't make you a great live band, or mean you have many fans, It's just an assumption, they assume that if you have a demo, then you must be committed e.t.c.
It's just a good thing to have with you, it opens up so many more possibilities for you.

Expense can be an issue, but look at it this way, Studios that are cheap and mainly used for demos will exist, they have to.
You have thousands of bands needing demo's, but not wanting to spend alot, this is a niche market, business will exist.

A demo is a great investment anyhow, once you get it, you can use it for so much.

1. Sending to venues with a presskit for gigs.
2. Sending it to local radio stations for promotion and even sometimes even playlists (be sure to include your webaddy for listeners to chase you up afterwards)
3. Other bands to convince them to let you play at their shows
4. Independant record labels
5. For handing out to fans after gigs to increase publicity

The list goes on, just take your 3 best, most catchy, and diverse songs, if you play general rock, make sure to include at least one slow ballad as well.
The point of the demo is to let people see what you can do, thus you really need your catchiest stuff on their, you need to grab the attention of the listener and make them want more.

WHEN SENDING A DEMO

The more accurate your mailing is, the more interest it garners, when it comes to labels and things, who get thousands of demo's, the most important thing is to make sure you know where you are sending it.
It sounds silly but addressing it to a specific member of their demo team will get you a better chance of being opened.

Look at it from their point of view, you wake up with 100 letters on your floor, you have 10 minutes before work, 90 of these are addressed to your house, 10 are addressed specificly to you, in your short time, which would you guess are more important?
The senders who took the time to find out your name will most likely get their way into your hands before any others.

The music industry is hard, you need to take every single effort you can to be part of that lucky 5% who make it, it's not good enough to be a good runner in the sprint, you need to take every little thing you can to make you faster than the others, even if its just shaving your head to make yourself more aerodynamic, being specific with your address makes yourself more aerodynamic, and you need that, everytime you send something to an A&R department, ask yourself this "There will be thousands of other people sending things to them, What reason do they have to open my parcel before theirs?"

In short, a demo is a wonderful thing when used correctly, It is like a guitar that can turn into a bass and then a drumkit, it serves many purposes and will definately help you if you learn to use it correctly.

I am working on the special copyright issue, should be with you soon, Sorry it's been so late coming.

Thats a good read. Thanks

....smackowipes.... good one! :lol:

Another excellent issue. :thumb:

This may have been asked/said, but on estimate....how much do recording studios usually rent out to?

[QUOTE=XemoXmoshXpitX]This may have been asked/said, but on estimate....how much do recording studios usually rent out to?[/QUOTE]

It depends really, the best thing to do, if your just recording a demo or an e.p. and you are a small band, try to avoid going to studios that have worked with bigger artists, try to stick with the smaller studios.

In the UK, A smaller studio should cost around £11 an hour.

any chance of somebody having a directory of uk studios? Might be worth setting one up.

[QUOTE=moaner]any chance of somebody having a directory of uk studios? Might be worth setting one up.[/QUOTE]

I think there are directories, but nothing definitive.

I shall try and track a few down tommorrow.