I always looked at schism as a broken marriage. Since the word schism is very commonly used religiosly, I thought thats why Maynard might have went in another direction with it (since thats kinda his style).

mahhh what the hell do I know....

By the way TooLowns[U][B]ME[/B][/U], I answered your trivia back there somewhere. Im not sure if anyone cares AT ALL. Did I at least get the right freakin answers?

I've heard that the band Earshot sounds a lot like Tool. I checked out some of their stuff. And I don't think they sound ne thing like Tool. Ne thoughts on this? I don't think I would listen to them if they were a Tool spin off. Some Tool wanna be. You can't copy Tool's sound. Tool is tool, you can't try to be like them.

bump

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]thanks man. I got the email.[/QUOTE]

no problemo :thumb: i figured whilst reading it the order was a bit messed up but i'm sure you'll be able to make it make sense...


anyhoo...last night i was up til 3 reading that...a lot of it was really interesting and pointed out things i wouldn't have been able to worik out in years...the guy did his research pretty well...i have a few points that came up when i was reading it that he didn't put down which i will post tomorrow probably it's just i'm off out now...

but i do recommend it to all you guys who are interested in some of the more obscure tool lyrics...or those of you who have any interest at all in tool...until i read it i knew that the lyrics were deep but i didn't understand just how deep some of them were...

and once you've read it if you do...post on whether or not you agree on it/would add anything to it/disagree with any of it...or just any other general comments...

:)

[QUOTE=clearvision]Hey guys, I've been on hols and im not impressed with the state of this thread :upset:

Anyways to get to my point I downloaded Stainds version of Sober. I'm actually quite impressed. Many people would do a direct cover of the song and the vocalist try and imitate Maynards pronounciations and so forth.
However this version is slower than tool's. The cymbal (I'm no drummer but I think its the high hat) is very lose and is preminant (sp?) I think some of the fills are different too.
Aarons voice is it's usual self, he changes the dynamics just before he sings 'Jesus won't you fukin whistle' his voice goes from quiet to a real powerful voice that staind fans will recognise . He uses a flattened vibrato technique when he sings whistle which is really cool and is used throughout the song.
Staind use an acoustic guitar which is refreshingly different from tools version, it is loud and powerful, but also soft at the same time.
The version i have is live, The quality of the music and vocals is immense, I'm quite impressed how aaron maintained his voice.

All in all i think staind did well and i give it 9/10, however, being a staind fan i am slightly biased so take from the review what you will :)[/QUOTE]


Well....I thought it was really bad. I don't like Staind...I do understand and get their music...IMO it's not good music...Anyway..I would give it a 4/10...

BTW I listened to the songs in the order that some people claimed to be "mysitcal" .. It had no effect whatsoever on me...did it have an effect on other people??

Tool is an amazing band. My fave tunes are Stinkfist, Parabola, Lateralus and of course the EPIC Eulogy! Danny Carey is an amazing drummer, I love Adam's stattico riffs. Maynard is an amazing singer. I love the tribalistic, earthy production that their records have. With bands like SOAD, Deftones & Tool the state of rock music is very healthy indeed.

I don't really know what to think about Tool, the guitar and bass player are really talented, and they make beautiful riffs sometimes, but on the other hand, the drummer is like the Yngwie Malmsteen of drums, and on the other other hand, the singers voice is good (when he uses the studio vocal effects which he does alot) but on the other other other hand, his lyrics ****ign suck *** and make me want to go beat up the kid down the street who is a maynard freak, as a band, i'd have to give them 5 stars out of 10

[QUOTE=vixfinger11metallica20]
BTW I listened to the songs in the order that some people claimed to be "mysitcal" .. It had no effect whatsoever on me...did it have an effect on other people??[/QUOTE]

You may not have done it correctly, it wont work if u just play tthme in that order by changing tracks, as you get the delay in between. it also wonmt work by putting together a media playlist and playing it, as it needs the CD elements to work. Its a bit of effort to do properly, and I still haven't done it myself, but the result is a better mix of the tracks and they flow into eah other a lot better.

As for a mystical element, there is no change to the songs, so it is only to get the most out of the album, it wont automatically make it sound 10x better (which is a hard thing to do in any case, the album being as solid as it is)

In case anyone else hasn't a clue about the track ordering, ill put up the link again
[url]http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/question/insight7.html[/url] (dont worry, its a safe link)

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]You may not have done it correctly, it wont work if u just play tthme in that order by changing tracks, as you get the delay in between. it also wonmt work by putting together a media playlist and playing it, as it needs the CD elements to work. Its a bit of effort to do properly, and I still haven't done it myself, but the result is a better mix of the tracks and they flow into eah other a lot better.

As for a mystical element, there is no change to the songs, so it is only to get the most out of the album, it wont automatically make it sound 10x better (which is a hard thing to do in any case, the album being as solid as it is)

In case anyone else hasn't a clue about the track ordering, ill put up the link again
[url]http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/question/insight7.html[/url] (dont worry, its a safe link)[/QUOTE]

I guess you are right....

[QUOTE=SexyPineapple]I don't really know what to think about Tool, the guitar and bass player are really talented, and they make beautiful riffs sometimes, but on the other hand, the drummer is like the Yngwie Malmsteen of drums, and on the other other hand, the singers voice is good (when he uses the studio vocal effects which he does alot) but on the other other other hand, his lyrics ****ign suck *** and make me want to go beat up the kid down the street who is a maynard freak, as a band, i'd have to give them 5 stars out of 10[/QUOTE]
so how many tool songs have you heard?

I do remember in an interview Danny saying something like "if you listen to this album , you better have a protection spell ...." of course, its tool, so you just dont know if he's serious. I'll have to try the alternate order. i had heard about it when the album first came out but never really put much idea in it that the order of some songs will have a mystical effect. but if anybody can have a mystical experience it would be me. so, we'll check it out. the thing is i cant program my currenct cd player. How is everyone else doing it? well i do have two cds. hmmmm. aw ****, one is scratched up bad though. :confused:

I managed to get one of my DJ friends to mix two copies but he literally tried to mix them in that annoying DJ way, so it didnt work as well as I hoped.

I copied the tracks on to my PC, then burned them in the alternate order

[QUOTE=petrucci_wannabee]I copied the tracks on to my PC, then burned them in the alternate order[/QUOTE]

Did that work though? I did it and the songs were all spaced apart by a second or two as soon as I copied them

Hm... I gotta try that. also I read that tool book, after I downloaded acrobat reader. and it was really really good. a lot of things I didn't know. but I wanna throw something out there for you guys, the song Stinkfist, when I first looked at its lyrics, I thought it was about drugs. Now I know after asking another tool fan, that its about anal fisting, and stimulation, etc. But in the tool book, the guy said it was a conversation between the drug and the addict. And it makes perfect sense to me. Yet so does the anal fisting. can they both be right?

I think someone should make a site an stream the tool album in alternative order mixed properly for all us tool fans :D

Dammit, I cant download that Tool Book, it seems from comments being made it is a well thought out opinionated piece of work. Can someone send it to me?

[QUOTE=vixfinger11metallica20]Have any of you heard Staind's Sober cover...? They practically ruined an amazing song. If any of you have ..tell me about it.[/QUOTE]

Yep, I've heard that cover and I really didn't like much either. I've also heard Limp Bizkit's cover of "Opiate"...and I really didn't enjoy that one either.

a wee bit of info on the Tool DVD
 

live DVD - form the last six shows of the 2002 tour - no release date yet.

this is kind of old i think. i saw it on one of the biggest Tool sites. dont quote me on it though

Awesome...can't wait.

*prays that they include a multi-angle feature so I can watch Danny Carey the whole time*

This should go in the official Tool thread, I'll move it there for ya.

^ why thank you

[QUOTE=twiggster]Yep, I've heard that cover and I really didn't like much either. I've also heard Limp Bizkit's cover of "Opiate"...and I really didn't enjoy that one either.[/QUOTE]

how the fu[SIZE=2]ck[/SIZE] did this get in here before my post?

I merged your thread into the Official Tool thread.

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]I've heard that the band Earshot sounds a lot like Tool. I checked out some of their stuff. And I don't think they sound ne thing like Tool. Ne thoughts on this? I don't think I would listen to them if they were a Tool spin off. Some Tool wanna be. You can't copy Tool's sound. Tool is tool, you can't try to be like them.[/QUOTE]

I don't think Earshot sounds anything like Tool either but then again I really haven't heard this band much...however, there is this one song, I think its called "Go Away" where the singer does sound like Maynard alot.

Yea Limp Bizkits cover of Opiate is one of the most horrible Pieces of garbage ever made. Tool rules though. Carey is god on the drums. I actually got the chance to meet him a few weeks back and get some autographed cymbals and what not. Tool is by far one of the most creative, musicly talented bands out there right now. Maynard definitly gets my vote for best rock vocals.

I used to have the order they go in. They go in a certain order so that the album flows better. I read in an article somewhere that Danny Carey is summoning demons on his drums in the song Ticks and Leeches. And yes, Maynard and Danny practice all that Enochian crap. Enochian is supposed to be the "Language of the Angels". Danny has the Enochian Magic Table thing on a gong that he brings to concerts.

hey there im a BIG Tool and APC fan but ive never got around to and of the other band member side project and i was just wondering if Pigmy Love Circus or Zaum were very good and what are there best songs you think...just so i can have a listen to them and see what there like.

Im only a dumb 15year old and i was trying to figure out what the song Disgustipated was all about i i was having my luck, if anyone here can he bothered to tell me fell free...

and that song by Earshot was called Get Away not Go Away

[QUOTE=ænima]and that song by Earshot was called Get Away not Go Away[/QUOTE]

"Get Away"...There we go..sorry, my bad.