This is kind of silly, neither group "stole" music from the other. I mean is a black playing blues/folk really any different from a white playing blues/folk. Can a genre belong to someone even? And if it does why should it be to a race, why not to anyone who can feel it?

Well because white people are like African-American's popular little brother in which big bro comes up with something brilliant and little bro comes out to everyone and claims its his idea.

[QUOTE=Schyma000]Great point but nobody knows who spawned Folk.[/QUOTE]

Well, this is the common and most likely correct belief. Folk devolped in the Appalachian Mountains. Which is exactly where the Scottish and Irish settle many years ago. That is why American Roots and Scottish/Irish Roots are musically very similar.

[QUOTE=Schyma000]Well because white people are like African-American's popular little brother in which big bro comes up with something brilliant and little bro comes out to everyone and claims its his idea.[/QUOTE]
It's pretty widely accepted that jazz and blues were invented by the blacks and played an absolutely enormous role in western music as we know it though.

[QUOTE=Schyma000]Well because white people are like African-American's popular little brother in which big bro comes up with something brilliant and little bro comes out to everyone and claims its his idea.[/QUOTE]

Though I do not like to say other races stole music and such, Black music usually goes back to one place, White music. Whites provided most the instruments the Blacks used to create Blues, their early style, and their reasoning for the Blues (most importantly). Which would of course turned into Jazz later on.

If you put it that way, the White race is the older more unappreciated brother. While the Blacks are the less original little brother who everyone always trusts and believes.

It is all about how you look at it.

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Though I do not like to say other races stole music and such, Black music usually goes back to one place, White music. Whites provided most the instruments the Blacks used to create Blues, their early style, and their reasoning for the Blues (most importantly). Which would of course turned into Jazz later on.

If you put it that way, the White race is the older more unappreciated brother. While the Blacks are the less original little brother who everyone always trusts and believes.

It is all about how you look at it.[/QUOTE]
True and lets leave it at that.

So whats everyone's favorite Jazz musician?

Mine is of corse Coltrane.

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Though I do not like to say other races stole music and such, Black music usually goes back to one place, White music. Whites provided most the instruments the Blacks used to create Blues, their early style, and their reasoning for the Blues (most importantly). Which would of course turned into Jazz later on.

If you put it that way, the White race is the older more unappreciated brother. While the Blacks are the less original little brother who everyone always trusts and believes.

It is all about how you look at it.[/QUOTE]
I think it should be agreed that if you are to look at it by race both races are of large influence. Blacks used creole rhythms to create the music but used western instruments, and did incorporate western musical ideas. By the same folk music was a western based music but the banjo for example was originally a black instrument.

Really the new mixture of races played a humongous part in the development of modern western music but other than that it's somewhat silly to make it about race.

:)

It's hard for me to choose a strait up Jazz artist as my favorite. Since Bela Fleck and David Grisman can not be counted as strait up Jazz, it is of course really hard for me.

So I guess Coltrane also.

EDIT: Not Coltrane, definitley Wes Montgomery. :D

does it have to be straight up jazz though?

No but yes.

Wes Montgomery = Good choice

The Byrds own.

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Thelonius monk, Louis Armstrong

Louis Armstrong is awesome.

"Mack the Knife" > all


The Byrds > The Yardbirds

[QUOTE=Badmoon]The Byrds own.

/of topic[/QUOTE]
The Byrds infact do own and I wish I had more than just them covering Dylan. I need [I]5th Demention[/I] and [I]Mr. Tambourine Man[/I].

Do you have [I]Sweetheart of the Rodeo[/I]?

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Louis Armstrong is awesome.

"Mack the Knife" > all


The Byrds > The Yardbirds[/QUOTE]
Charlie Parker > all

You cant compare the The Byrds and The Yardbirds but I agree.

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Do you have [I]Sweetheart of the Rodeo[/I]?[/QUOTE]
No Just [I]The Byrds Play Dylan[/I] its kinda rare.

If you can't compare then you couldn't make a decision.

Yeah you can ;). I'm even starting to doubt that The Yardbirds technical ability was greater. Clarence White was an absolute machine. He died too young :(.

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Louis Armstrong is awesome.

"Mack the Knife" > all


The Byrds > The Yardbirds[/QUOTE]
His rendition of Mack the knife is my favourite, but I always find it harder to find then others' renditions.

I have it on a Greatest Hits. Just from the first 3 seconds, you know it's going to own.

Country Rock > Blues Rock

IMO

I have about five Thelonius Monk albums but haven't herad them all. :(

[QUOTE=Badmoon]I have it on a Greatest Hits. Just from the first 3 seconds, you know it's going to own.

Country Rock > Blues Rock

IMO[/QUOTE]
Country < Blues

IMO

I still wouldn't agree.

I listen to more blues rock artists but country rock is awesome too.

[QUOTE=Badmoon]I have it on a Greatest Hits. Just from the first 3 seconds, you know it's going to own.

Country Rock > Blues Rock

IMO[/QUOTE]
Anything that while i'm listening to it makes me think it's the best thing ever written> anything else.

other than that it starts getting to hard to distinguish with all the different subgenres and subsubgenres.

Robert Johnson > Any British dude who tried to copy

I'd take blues over country anyday. But, it's not really fair for me to say that because the only country I have heard is the crap on the radio.

[QUOTE=Schyma000]Robert Johnson > Any British dude who tried to copy[/QUOTE]
I dunno. but one thing's for sure...

Using the ">" sing to make your opinion clear > not using the ">" sign to make you opinion clear.

Radio country does indeed suck. It has to be mixed with rock.