[QUOTE=GiB_PlAyEr123]Green Day can rot in hell![/QUOTE]

Amen.

[QUOTE=rip-metal_rules]need help here: which type of wah pedal is best for playing Hammet-style lead guitar?

Crybaby 535Q
Crybaby Classic Fasel Inductor
Crybaby CB-95Q[/QUOTE]


I would say the 535q, but you might also look at
the weeping demon wah it's really nice :thumb:

[QUOTE=Quickdrop]Btw, most of Bad Seed is the same chord through out the song, like i said[/QUOTE]

That doesn't make the song sound bad. And no it's not same chord throughout the whole song.

Try playing the [I]Shortest Straw[/I] guitar solo.

Jusitce > Black > Puppets

About Bob Rock:

I think he's a good producer myself. The production on their first four albums wasn't to great at all, but it greatly improved when Bob came in I think.

I think I'm the only person who likes low quality recordings :x
I love Kill 'em All's raw quality.
It has the best production for what I look for in music.
I know it's far from the best (Probably the worst), but it's my favourite.

Kill 'Em All is an awesome album, it's one of my favorites.

[QUOTE=Fernandes Power]
1. What are you comparing the 'catchy riffs and lyrics' to?


2. Damage Inc. is pure thrash. Metallica was a pioneer of thrash, when you state that they arent particularly thrash youre comparing it to how bands like Slayer or newer more Metalcore bands would execute thrash.

You obviously dont know Orion that well because it isnt the relatively simple bass interlude thats hyped up, its the 3-part bass solo that is. ;) So in that respect your argument is rather weak.


3. Lars is the bands spokesperson, this is a position everybody would agree belongs to Lars.
It wasnt his idea to throw Dave out. Have you even heard about the fights Dave and James had? James found Kirk for gods sake. Plus he was more than happy to replace McGovney with Burton. James has ALWAYS had vast amounts of control over the band. Maybe not on the public front, but music-wise and member-wise he certainly has.

4. Bob Rock was actually the main instigator (sp?) in suggesting Kirk layed off soloing on St Anger. But it was also Kirks decision. He was told exactly that he could place something over a song that made him feel happy. (Like a solo or something). And Kirk did just that.

5. Lars didnt tell James not to hire Pepper, James seemed FAR MORE interested with hiring Rob and wanted to jam with him more just to see.

(Have you even seen the film)?

6. Metallica arent trend followers as such or even they would have been overtaken. Theyve ALWAYS had something thats kept them purely Metallica. They set more trends than theyve followed and I could probably count on one hand the amount of songs that are down-tuned that they have written (pre-St Anger).

Plus, grunge?? No. Metallica havent played grunge... grunge is Nirvana and Soundgarden.

7.The band isnt anything to blame, they are lumbered with a rather bad producer that they dont seem to want to get rid of. Hiring him gave them a bassier, heavier sound as its what he specialises in.

8. This doesnt suprise me too much. Theyre great albums.
Although what does suprise me about it is that those albums were made at the pinnacle of them 'following trends' which seems to be a big problem you have with them. :p

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1. The catchy riffs and lyrics, they're everywhere, in every album. Don't tell me you need examples?

2. 2 out of 8 songs being thrash doesn't make a band a pioneer of thrash.

3. James had many discussions with Lars about kicking Dave out. After Dave was thrown out, you are right. James hired Kirk. But that doesn't prove anything. The guitarist in the band should find another guitarist that he thinks he'll made a good guitar team with. That doesn't surprise me at all.

4. Yes I have seen the film. If you've seen it you'd know what I'm talking about. Lars said he wasn't interested in having traditional solos in Metallica's music anymore. And Kirk agreed, he said he wasn't interested in doing traditional-sounding solos, something a little more modern. Then Bob came in with his part, you are correct.

5. In the film they don't show it, but Pepper was very close in getting into the band. But in the end, James said to Pepper that their friendship would probably affect the music, so Pepper pulled out.

6. I know their are many songs that are down-tuned, but never in the drop-d style and most of the time the lyrics and riffs aren't repeated 10 times in the one song. I presumed you knew what I meant when I said down-tuned riffage. I meant in the style that bands today are playing...unthought, unworked and uninspired.

7. I think if the band hired him and didn't want to let him go then their is something to blame them for.

8. I've given my reasons why I like the Loads and have expressed my awareness of the Loads.

[QUOTE=Quickdrop]Reload a [i]good[/i] album? Get out of here, its the first 4 tracks off it, then a bunch of songs only at a mediocre level. Your right, the CD's are totally different genre's but they are still from the same band, there for why is there something wrong in comparing them all? I will also say the old stuff like Seek & Destroy, Creeping Death, and 4 Horsemen sound better live than they do off the studio version. So James having a different sounding voice is really irrelivent. Its more the Black Album stuff he can't sing live, like Sad But True for example.[/QUOTE]

yeah, i obviously find it hard to appreciate reload as much as the older stuff....the older stuff just absolutely drives its *** off the road...but its good music, and i think the albums like reload and load and st anger that have definate differences in influence help to build up metallica's fan base...the people that don't necessarily like the thrashy speed metal that metallica was a rage for in the 80s might like the quieter rock of reload or st anger...not as in quiet but newer, stuff that weird people nowdays are used to. obviously this breeds contention within metallica fans themselves, there being the gang who likes reload and load and st anger and whatnot, and the group that likes the old stuff, then the people who like it all. we shouldnt kill eachother for not liking some of their stuff - yes its the same band buts its OBVIOUSLY different styles of music as they progress - if anyone argues with that point i would very much so like to hear it.

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]About Bob Rock:

I think he's a good producer myself. The production on their first four albums wasn't to great at all, but it greatly improved when Bob came in I think.[/QUOTE]


Bob's previous production credits include:

Motley Crue
Bon Jovi
Aerosmith
Bryan Adams

Sounds to me like an excellent choice for the world's premeire thrash metal band to go out and hire this guy to produce their new and improved pop metal crap.

'tallica are in the studio!!! its just been announced on their website! ok ok they're not recording the new album yet but they are recording their voices for an episode of The Simpsons. how cool. i cant wait. hopefully while they are in the studio they will discuss recording the new album soon!! p.s check out lars' weird beardy thing hes got

Bob is a great producer when it comes to mixing. The Black Album is one of the best mixed albums I can think of off the top of me head.

And Gabe, I love you. 123. Lots. I think that's the first time I've said 123, so you can have the priviledge there. I agree in quantities.

:smash:

The Black album was well mixed. Bob helped them craft songs that would appeal to kids as well as be radio friendly.

Bob Rock is an excellent producer. No one questions that. Bon Jovi loves him, as does Motley Crue. His penchent for making pop metal hits out of badly written songs has always been his saving grace.

[QUOTE=DBoon's Ghost]Bob's previous production credits include:

Motley Crue
Bon Jovi
Aerosmith
Bryan Adams

Sounds to me like an excellent choice for the world's premeire thrash metal band to go out and hire this guy to produce their new and improved pop metal crap.[/QUOTE]
Previous? Well now he's gotten worse. If I recall correctly, he did the recent Simple Plan album.

He is really a great producer. Everything is extremely well mixed and he can make a hit out of any song, no matter how bad it is.

For me, i'd hire Bob Rock....but my fav metallica songs are...lemme think

- Thing that should not Be
- Creeping Death
- Jump in the Fire
- Fade to Black
- Escape
- Pulling Teeth (A bassist's lullaby..)

I think Metallica died with Cliff Burton, my opinion...but Jason Newstead is an amazing bassist...don't get me wrong...there some amazing stuff he's done but Cliff was in his own league...

[QUOTE=RR_56-82]For me, i'd hire Bob Rock....but my fav metallica songs are...lemme think

- Thing that should not Be
- Creeping Death
- Jump in the Fire
- Fade to Black
- Escape
- Pulling Teeth (A bassist's lullaby..)

I think Metallica died with Cliff Burton, my opinion...but Jason Newstead is an amazing bassist...don't get me wrong...there some amazing stuff he's done but Cliff was in his own league...[/QUOTE]

I actually don't like TTTSNB, btu I like the rest of those, not my favorites except Fade to Black is their best.

I agree with that bass stuff, but now with Rob I think the next album will be pretty awesome

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]That doesn't make the song sound bad. And no it's not same chord throughout the whole song.[/QUOTE]Are you people not actually reading my posts or what? I stated that to support the fact that the creavity on reload wasnt there like all the presuccesors. And did i say that in itself made the song bad? No, i didnt. Please make sure you've read and fully understand my remarks before commenting back on them.

[QUOTE=Quickdrop]Are you people not actually reading my posts or what? I stated that to support the fact that the creavity on reload wasnt there like all the presuccesors. And did i say that in itself made the song bad? No, i didnt. Please make sure you've read and fully understand my remarks before commenting back on them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Quickdrop]it had nothing to do with the fact that the album is different then the classic metallica, its the fact that reload simply sucks.[/QUOTE]

Sucks = Bad..

Which I then disagreed and pointed out that bad seed and slither do not suck, obviously they're not close to the other metallica songs, but that's not the point really. :thumb:

[QUOTE=justine_hammett]'tallica are in the studio!!! its just been announced on their website! ok ok they're not recording the new album yet but they are recording their voices for an episode of The Simpsons. how cool. i cant wait. hopefully while they are in the studio they will discuss recording the new album soon!! p.s check out lars' weird beardy thing hes got[/QUOTE]

Wow, what? Simpsons? Geez, they could have at least done king of the hill. :lol:

So the simpsons....that will be the only episode I ever watch.

[url]http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=12585[/url]

god Lars clean up a bit

Lars looks like he just came out of a prison.

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]Sucks = Bad..

Which I then disagreed and pointed out that bad seed and slither do not suck, obviously they're not close to the other metallica songs, but that's not the point really. :thumb:



Wow, what? Simpsons? Geez, they could have at least done king of the hill. :lol:[/QUOTE]A tad bit off topic are we? I said the songs werent as creative as the previous albums, they obviously didnt put in the effort. There for, [b]in my opinion[/b] it sucks, enough said. Now lets stop arguing this is getting annoying... :upset:

Wow 'Tallica on Simpsons...

[QUOTE=brittallica]So the simpsons....that will be the only episode I ever watch.

[url]http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=12585[/url]

god Lars clean up a bit[/QUOTE]He reminds me of a homeless drunk in those pictures. Oh well, should be interesting to see it in May.

May in america means December in England :(

[QUOTE=gocaps99]Previous? Well now he's gotten worse. If I recall correctly, he did the recent Simple Plan album.

He is really a great producer. Everything is extremely well mixed and he can make a hit out of any song, no matter how bad it is.[/QUOTE]


Well, you said it this time not me.

[QUOTE=Quickdrop]Are you people not actually reading my posts or what? I stated that to support the fact that the creavity on reload wasnt there like all the presuccesors. And did i say that in itself made the song bad? No, i didnt. Please make sure you've read and fully understand my remarks before commenting back on them.[/QUOTE]

well...maybe you're just not making sense so no one is reading your posts...deh.
and may i point out that...haha...presuccessor is not even a word...way to go.

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]Lars looks like he just came out of a prison.[/QUOTE]

i agree...he looks like an old man.

[QUOTE=metalmilitia101]i agree...he looks like an old man.[/QUOTE]
He is an old man. C'mon he's gotta be 42 or something.

[QUOTE=Happy]He is an old man. C'mon he's gotta be 42 or something.[/QUOTE]

true

Hey look its Lars the caveman!

:D

[QUOTE=clairvoyant]Hey look its Lars the caveman!

:D[/QUOTE]
it reminds me "ween(numbers)'s avatar

[QUOTE=metalmilitia101]well...maybe you're just not making sense so no one is reading your posts...deh.
and may i point out that...haha...presuccessor is not even a word...way to go.[/QUOTE]And may i point out that...haha...your sentence structure looks like a preschooler's...way to go.

Yours wasn't much better. Unless you were being sarcastic.

[QUOTE=Quickdrop]And may i point out that...haha...your sentence structure looks like a preschooler's...way to go.[/QUOTE]

yes i do hope he was being sarcastic. writing is actually my forte, sharing the floor with drumming and various other talents.

[QUOTE=Quickdrop]A tad bit off topic are we? I said the songs werent as creative as the previous albums, they obviously didnt put in the effort. There for, [b]in my opinion[/b] it sucks, enough said. Now lets stop arguing this is getting annoying... :upset:[/QUOTE]

Uh, you said you didn't say that reload sucks, but you did 2 pages ago. I was just pointing that out. Lol, I wasn't arguing btw, just making a conversation. :p

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]Uh, you said you didn't say that reload sucks, but you did 2 pages ago. I was just pointing that out. Lol, I wasn't arguing btw, just making a conversation. :p[/QUOTE]
Well no matter what, I still think Reload was pretty bad.

That's fine. I actually think it's a pretty good album, and if some other band released it, it would have gotten more attention. It's probably a bad album for metallica, but oh well.

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]That's fine. I actually think it's a pretty good album, and if some other band released it, it would have gotten more attention. It's probably a bad album for metallica, but oh well.[/QUOTE]

i definately agree with that. i think people make too many stereotypes about metallica. such as...after listening to ride the lightning, master of puppets, all the early stuff, when some people listen to reload, load, st anger, all the new stuff they're like whats with this? this isnt good...only because it doesn't sound as good as their old stuff. if a new band debuted with reload, they would be like hey this is cool.

If it was released by a different band I still wouldn't like it that much.