Ok, I have listened to this CD probably 50 times, and it has grown on me. I'm not sure if it has grown on me because it HAD to as I was holding out hoping the leaked release was B-sides.

My problem is I expected too much out of the cd. As a musician I wanted to be blown away like I was when I heard Lateralus and Aenema for the first time. It just didn't happen with this album. It seems like alot of the stuff is rehashed idea's from the past.

Danny Carey and Justin Chancellor really stand out on this CD. Both stepped up and have progressed an incredible amount as musicians. Im not sure what to think about Maynard. His vocals seem to be over processed in the CD which I don't understand. In my opinion, and I say OPINION, Maynard has one of the best male vocals in music today. I don't feel like he put forth the effort he could have, I really believe he could have dug deeper and really pulled out some amazing stuff.

Adam does a good job with the CD, again I expected alot more from him. This could be due to the fact that Carey and Chancellor are so dominate that he had to kinda take the back burner for lack of a better term.

Overall I like the CD, and I am glad I bought it. I feel like this will probably be Tool's last CD and they will all retire from the industry. Little signs make me think this is the plan. This is the first CD where the band members have had pictures of themself inside the CD case and the lenses and 3D artwork, while amazing and interesting, are very clever marketing.

I really wanted to put this cd in, crank it up in my soundproof home studio, lay on the futon and get lost within it, I can't seem to do it with this CD.

I ended up purchasing 4 copies of the CD. I gave 2 to friends who are in college and wanted me to burn them a copy which I wouldn't do, opened 1 and put the unopened one with my other unopened Tool CD's. One HUGE positive coming from this CD is they are touring, you can bet I'll be at several of the shows.

Anyway, this is my opinion of the CD.

I just ranked the tracks on a myspace comment to Moses, but I suppose I can reiterate for the sake of postcount. (:p)

Right in Two
Rosetta Stoned
Intention
Vicarious
Jambi
The Pot
Wings

Suffice to say I prefer the build up on the album.

The Pot is the coolest song on 10,000 Days. Wings is pretty epic still though. I noticed that alot of the tracks don't get good until the second half of the song and the first half is kind of annoying.

I was let down too, but I think it's the kind of cd you're gonna have to get used to. I knew Lateralus was going to be a favorite of mine on the first listen(let alone [i]the[/i] favorite) but with 10,000 Days, I didn't feel that way. Now I do though. Just let it marinate in your ears for a week or two. :)

PS: Just purchased my signed copy of 10k Days. \:D/

Fanboyness for Tool: Confirmed

Oh, and The Pot effing grooves.

Im starting to love Rosetta Stoned.

As much as I love tool I must say I hate the use of filler in their albums. Sometimes the tracks serve a purpose as segues to those that follow, like eon blue apocalypse, parabola or lost keys. Others like viginti tres, lipan conjuring, mantra, die eier von satan etc. really dont add anything to the overall scheme of things. To be honest I would much rather they cut these tracks and used the space to create another full song or two

...but then again maybe I am just greedy for as much tool as possible, wow that didnt sound anywhere near as gay in my head lol.

[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]Im starting to love Rosetta Stoned.[/QUOTE]
together with the interlude of "lost keys (blame hoffman)" makes this song perfect

[QUOTE=SonorKen]Overall I like the CD, and I am glad I bought it. I feel like this will probably be Tool's last CD and they will all retire from the industry. Little signs make me think this is the plan. This is the first CD where the band members have had pictures of themself inside the CD case and the lenses and 3D artwork, while amazing and interesting, are very clever marketing.[/QUOTE]

I think Tool will release at least one more album, they don't quite sound finished to me yet, especially given the supposed comment of this album sounding more like the album they want to create, and them thinking it to be their best album to date. Plus... their contract needs one more CD, I believe.

I'm enjoying 10,000 Days a lot, to say the least. I might even prefer it to Lateralus at the moment, but I don't know how that will go over time. Ænima is my favourite Tool album still.

All the songs on 10,000 Days have grown on me. I've listened to the album... oh, I don't know 25 times through, maybe.

The two worst songs are Jambi and Rosetta Stoned, and that's a shame. I actually prefer Rosetta Stoned as a song to Intension and maybe even Right in Two, but I have this problem of thinking it's using too many rehashed ideas. I hear that guitar line in 6/4 or whatever, and it sounds like H. with two notes added at the end, you know which bit I mean.

It's a good song, It really is, but I can't help but feel the riffs sound a bit too similar to other stuff, which is a shame, cos they added new stuff to it as well.

Jambi... despite making me sing parts of it at random, I feel has lacking bits to it. Despite these criticisms, no songs on here are flops.

All opinions are subject to change.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I was let down too, but I think it's the kind of cd you're gonna have to get used to. I knew Lateralus was going to be a favorite of mine on the first listen(let alone [i]the[/i] favorite) but with 10,000 Days, I didn't feel that way. Now I do though. Just let it marinate in your ears for a week or two. :)

PS: Just purchased my signed copy of 10k Days. \:D/

Fanboyness for Tool: Confirmed

Oh, and The Pot effing grooves.[/QUOTE]

I think I might get one of those signed copies too. I really, [i]really[i], like the stuff Alex Grey does. It'd be cool to have.

I'd get the signed CD if my parents would let me order stuff by internet. I'll conform with the regular CD i got in the record store.

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Not sure if this has been posted before:

[URL="http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/topshelf/listen/mp3s/tool.mp3"]http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/topshelf/listen/mp3s/tool.mp3[/URL][/QUOTE]


Pretty good interview. Robbie Buck does a good job. Interviewing Tool would not be easy.

[QUOTE=taylormemer]Yeah, Triple J is the best rock radio station out there. They always get good interviews. And on Saturday, Tool are guest programming Rage (music video show). Which goes for a good 6 hours. It's gonna be awesome. They are being real freindly to us Australians.[/QUOTE]



Hey Adelaide me too.

"The Retard King" haha... interesting interview to say the least.

[QUOTE=Moses]The Pot is the coolest song on 10,000 Days. Wings is pretty epic still though. [B]I noticed that alot of the tracks don't get good until the second half of the song and the first half is kind of annoying[/B].[/QUOTE]

I agree with this completely. I.e. Right in Two, Jambi, and Rosetta Stoned.

I don't mean to interupt the current conversation here, but is there anything to the whole alternate track order on Lateralus, or is that just some completely over-the-top concept?

I'm not too sure but I'd probably say it's probably a completely over the top concept.

[QUOTE][B]VISIONS:[/B] Another side effect is that your psychedelic visual style and your image do fire your fans’ imagination. There are people who say you have to listen to Lateralus beginning with the centred song Parabola towards the outside, others see occult…
[B]Keenan: [/B]That’s bull****. That is all bull****. Every human does search for moments in which all makes sense. And those who search in music, will find. People have developed countless theories about Tool songs and what they mean. Theories about the playing order on our albums or the lyrics which can be reduced to a numeric pattern. Occultism equals fear. Much like religions, radical people use the occult to manipulate others. Most people who are practising those strange disciplines want truth. Because they’re tired of the lies which are told to them.[/QUOTE]
I read this in an interview a few days ago and thought it was pretty interesting.

Edit: In case you're still interested in that whole alternate order, here it is from wikipedia: [QUOTE]6,7,5,8,4,9,3,10,2,11,1,12,13 ("The Lateralus Prophecy"), or 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10 ("The Holy Gift"). These arrangements are rumoured by fans to produce different storylines for the album, although the band has said nothing official on the subject.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lunch]I don't mean to interupt the current conversation here, but is there anything to the whole alternate track order on Lateralus, or is that just some completely over-the-top concept?[/QUOTE]

there is something and it sounds pretty cool but it's most probably a coincidence, someone should give you a link

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35-B5sAiaqk&search=tool%20coachella[/url]

Jambi live

Yeah, but it is very pretentious. I mean look at their dubbed names;

"The Lateralus prophecy"
"The Holy Gift"

It's only putting songs in a different order on an album, and some happen to flow into each other a little bit, probably by coincidence. It's not ground breaking, or even vaugely exciting, IMO.


Updated songs in order:

10,000 Days
The Pot
Vicarious
Right in Two
Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned
Jambi
Wings
Intension

I still consider Lipan Conjuring to be one of Tool's better filler tracks, I can't see what's so annoying about it at all. It's way more fluid than anything from Ænima, and I prefer it to Eon Blue Apocalypse, which I find rather boring.

Rosetta Stoned would be above Right in Two... but I can't help but shake other songs from it at the moment.

I am listening to Wings before 10,000 Days a fair bit now, and if i had to listen to both songs together, i'd place it under The Pot and above Vicarious.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Did anyone else order a copy from Gray's website? I've yet to do so, but I still plan on it. :-D[/QUOTE]

I ordered a copy too.

Favorite songs so far:

Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned
Wings for marie/10,000 Days
Right In Two
Jambi
Vicarious
The Pot
Intension
Viginti Tres

I found Lipan Conjuring to be fairly amusing. It's a good filler track, IMO.

[QUOTE=Shadius]
I still consider Lipan Conjuring to be one of Tool's better filler tracks, I can't see what's so annoying about it at all. It's way more fluid than anything from Ænima, and I prefer it to Eon Blue Apocalypse, which I find rather boring[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with.I hate most of the filler tracks on Anima.But i must say i really enjoy Eon Blue Apocalypse.

So, I finally went and picked up my copy of [I]10 000 Days[/I] from HMV. Good thing I put it on order, since my copy was the last one left in the store. Seems the Australia-wide shipment was minus 20 000 albums. :-/

Anyways, I've only listened to the album inthe car so far, but I really like it. [I]Undertow[/I] will still remain my favourite album, methinks, but this one is really growing on me. I'll wait and see where it places compared to the other three.

Anyways, the stereoscope included is great. I've encountered them in Geology, and they're very boring and cause great eye-strain. Using them in the booklet, however, is very cool and so far I'm not experiencing any discomfort. Kudos to all those involved in the art. :)

Haha, I still haven't bought the album. My brother bought it, but he's off at college. We usually share CDs, so it'd be useless for me to buy a second copy. I'll just wait until he gets home from school next week.

I don't really get people who like Undertow the most. It's such an average album...

Was anybody else at least slightly pissed off at the construction of the packaging? Not the concept, but the way it was put together. I open the thing for the first time and the first thing i notice is that the little pocket that holds the cd is all offcenter and sticks out fo the package slightly. The sides look like they've been held together with electrical tape. And it sounds like someones doing construction work outside my window every time i touch it.

All really minor things, but i would have thought that a band like Tool would put a higher value on the aesthetics of something they spent this much time on. (not that they are to blame for the mistakes)

[QUOTE=SeAmoNKeY]Was anybody else at least slightly pissed off at the construction of the packaging? Not the concept, but the way it was put together. I open the thing for the first time and the first thing i notice is that the little pocket that holds the cd is all offcenter and sticks out fo the package slightly. The sides look like they've been held together with electrical tape. And it sounds like someones doing construction work outside my window every time i touch it.

All really minor things, but i would have thought that a band like Tool would put a higher value on the aesthetics of something they spent this much time on. (not that they are to blame for the mistakes)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Otherside]One thing I can't stand about this album is the wretched creaking everytime I open the cd case. Just for that, I give this album a .5 out of 100.[/QUOTE]

Yah.

[QUOTE=RideTheSpiral]I don't really get people who like Undertow the most. It's such an average album...[/QUOTE]

Not really. It's actually quite good, musically, and I prefer it because it's more "raw" if you will. Sure, [I]Lateralus[/I] has some awesome songs, and [I]Aenima[/I] has my two favourite Tool songs, but as a solid album, I always prefer [I]Undertow.[/I]

[QUOTE=SeAmoNKeY]Was anybody else at least slightly pissed off at the construction of the packaging? Not the concept, but the way it was put together. I open the thing for the first time and the first thing i notice is that the little pocket that holds the cd is all offcenter and sticks out fo the package slightly. The sides look like they've been held together with electrical tape. And it sounds like someones doing construction work outside my window every time i touch it.

All really minor things, but i would have thought that a band like Tool would put a higher value on the aesthetics of something they spent this much time on. (not that they are to blame for the mistakes)[/QUOTE]


Don't know where this is coming from, since mine is completely normal. Sure the pocket sticks out slightly, but nothing to write home about. And mine is completely silent when I pick it up.

[QUOTE=SeAmoNKeY]Was anybody else at least slightly pissed off at the construction of the packaging? Not the concept, but the way it was put together. I open the thing for the first time and the first thing i notice is that the little pocket that holds the cd is all offcenter and sticks out fo the package slightly. The sides look like they've been held together with electrical tape. And it sounds like someones doing construction work outside my window every time i touch it.

All really minor things, but i would have thought that a band like Tool would put a higher value on the aesthetics of something they spent this much time on. (not that they are to blame for the mistakes)[/QUOTE]

I had some trouble getting the CD out of that little pocket without running into the booklet. It was a bit frustrating.

I have a suspicion that they didn't really spend that much time on the cd. I also think they should have mixed the vocals more in the front, more like on The Pot.

[QUOTE=SeAmoNKeY]Was anybody else at least slightly pissed off at the construction of the packaging? Not the concept, but the way it was put together. I open the thing for the first time and the first thing i notice is that the little pocket that holds the cd is all offcenter and sticks out fo the package slightly. The sides look like they've been held together with electrical tape. And it sounds like someones doing construction work outside my window every time i touch it.

All really minor things, but i would have thought that a band like Tool would put a higher value on the aesthetics of something they spent this much time on. (not that they are to blame for the mistakes)[/QUOTE]

The pocket on mine is perfectly centered, but it does squawk a bit when I open it.

I purchased the new Tool album today. I am happy to say it's one the greatest albums i've ever purchased. But what interested me just as much as the music about this. Is the artwork. Is there some hidden meaning behind it? I'm not so sure the lenses are working right for me on this, because Everything's just blurry when I look at it. I don't know though, maybe im just being stupid and using them the wrong way haha.

Yeah my only problem with the album is the vocals should be a little louder, even though they just wanted it to sound like another instrument.

[QUOTE=Toaster]The pocket on mine is perfectly centered, but it does squawk a bit when I open it.[/QUOTE]
Same here. I really have no complaints about it.

Sometimes it seems like they made riffs in a odd time sig and it kind of sounds forced.

I guess my particular copy of the album was slightly retarded in production, or maybe its because i live in New Mexico and everything is slightly retarded here.

I think this new direction is good for them, and i also think its their best cd to date. IMO this sounds like an experimental album, but with a good side, wings(part 1 & 2).

I have also noticed the riffs from past albums and i thought, maybe these are references to those songs theme's cause the rosetta stoned riff that sounds like third eye, could be that he opened his eye at that point and realized he forgot his pen. Thats what i think though so it probably doesn't matter.

my fav. song now is intension which is funny cause its their least fav. song on 10,000 days. If you don't count lipan conjuring as a song.

So I listened to 10,000 Days today, and here's my very brief review...

The album's Solid, and GOOD, but not GREAT. It doesn't have that strong feel I've notcied in Lateralus and Aenima. It lacks some good Tool elements I can't quite list yet. The album was still deffinetly worth my 10 bucks however, and it's my favorite cover/art work of any of their material yet.

I feel pretty much the same way. Too many solid parts, not enough great parts. Adam Jones' "chuggiga" riff that he uses pretty much nonstop is really getting old to me already.

[QUOTE=Lunch]I feel pretty much the same way. Too many solid parts, not enough great parts. Adam Jones' "chuggiga" riff that he uses pretty much nonstop is really getting old to me already.[/QUOTE]what can i say hes a chugga kinda guy