[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]Bad seed is the best song post-black album imo. Or sweet amber. One of those definetely.[/QUOTE]Most of the song is the same chord...but i will admit, it is catchy :thumb:

[QUOTE=Quickdrop]Most of the song is the same chord...but i will admit, it is catchy :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Wow. Your avatar looks like it's getting faster and faster.

[QUOTE=Happy]Wow. Your avatar looks like it's getting faster and faster.[/QUOTE]
You made me look at it for like 10 minutes.

[QUOTE=RustedPieces]You made me look at it for like 10 minutes.[/QUOTE]
But it does look like it's getting faster and faster right?

[QUOTE=Happy]But it does look like it's getting faster and faster right?[/QUOTE]
Yeah sort of.

No Leaf Clover > anything since 1990

[QUOTE=RustedPieces]Yeah sort of.[/QUOTE]
Cool, so I'm not going mad after all.

[QUOTE=Mr Clean]anything past the black album i think is **** exept the song Unforgiven II, which for some reson is one of my fave 'Tallica songs[/QUOTE]

What about Fuel and Until it Sleeps? Those are better songs than Unforgiven II, IMO.

There are plenty of good songs after Black album.
No Leaf Clover is my fave.

[QUOTE=clairvoyant]No Leaf Clover > anything since 1990[/QUOTE]

1991 and before > Reload > No Leaf Clover > GD Inc. > St. Anger > Load

[QUOTE]There are plenty of good songs after Black album.
No Leaf Clover is my fave.[/QUOTE]

You're not saying it's your fav on the black album are you???

[QUOTE=Happy]But it does look like it's getting faster and faster right?[/QUOTE]


Careful, he might hypnotize you into giving him your bank pin #. :p :lol:

Ride the Lightning>Master of Puppets>Black Album>Load>Kill Em All>And Justice for All>St. Anger> Reload> Garage Inc.

No Leaf Clover > -Human

[QUOTE=Quickdrop]Ride the Lightning>Master of Puppets>Black Album>Load>Kill Em All>And Justice for All>St. Anger> Reload> Garage Inc.

No Leaf Clover > -Human[/QUOTE]

Load over Justice? Dang thats a first.

For me it goes

Ride The Lightning > Master Of Puppets > ...And Justice For All > Kill 'Em All > Black Album = Load > Reload > St. Anger

Justice > All.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Justice > All.[/QUOTE]
Give me some examples as to why. Until then, I'm still going to think that Ride The Lightning is the best.

Puppets > Justice = Kill 'Em All > Ride > Black > I dont have the rest

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Justice > All.[/QUOTE]

RTL > Justice > ALL.

Ride The Lightning > Kill 'em All > Power Metal/No Life 'Til Leather > Master of Puppets > St. Anger > *

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]Give me some examples as to why. Until then, I'm still going to think that Ride The Lightning is the best.[/QUOTE]
Alright. One is the best of the ballads by far, Blackened is a sweet album opener, To Live is to Die is the best and has the most meening then any other song they've done, Dyers Eve has the best solo Kirks ever done, (this can be argued, but I like it the most) Harvester of Sorrows intro riffs are so awesome, it makes me want to die, and the title track has sweet riffs/lyrics.

[SIZE=1]IMO[/SIZE]

What makes RTL the best?

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Alright. One is the best of the ballads by far[/QUOTE]
I would have to say Fade to Black is.

I did say IMO. Fade to Black is great, but I don't care for the vocals/lyrics. Plus the ending is a bit predictable/cheesy... Ones ending is metal madness with some sweet soloing. :D

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]
What makes RTL the best?[/QUOTE]


[U]Dave Mustaine[/U],Cliff Burton Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich all in one package.(as songwriters)

Also the perfect progresion of the album.

[QUOTE=heavy metal kid][U]Dave Mustaine[/U], Cliff Burton, Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich all in one package.(as songwriters)

Also the perfect progresion of the album.[/QUOTE]
That's a big 123

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Alright. One is the best of the ballads by far, Blackened is a sweet album opener, To Live is to Die is the best and has the most meening then any other song they've done, Dyers Eve has the best solo Kirks ever done, (this can be argued, but I like it the most) Harvester of Sorrows intro riffs are so awesome, it makes me want to die, and the title track has sweet riffs/lyrics.

[SIZE=1]IMO[/SIZE]

What makes RTL the best?[/QUOTE]

One is not the best ballad in my opinion.
Blackened however is my favorite Metallica song.
I agree about To Live Is To Die.
I personally hate Kirk's solo in Dyer's Eve.
I also hate Harvester Of Sorrow.
The title track does rock.

Eye of the Beholder and Frayed Ends Of Sanity are awesome in my book. Same with Shortest Straw.

My views right there.

New Album
 

[QUOTE=iliketoplaydrums10111]^^thanks guys
i have a question?

What do you think Metallica's new album will be like, if they come out with one, will they come out with another one??[/QUOTE]

If they do come out with another album, I hope it doesn't suck like St. Anger did.


Master Of Puppets RULES!

How can you hate Kirks solo in Dyers Eve? That one melody is really nice, one of the few times Kirk has feel in his solos.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]How can you hate Kirks solo in Dyers Eve? That one melody is really nice, one of the few times Kirk has feel in his solos.[/QUOTE]
I dont think one good melody can make up for the massive amount of wah and boring licks he used in that solo imo...

Eh, I like the solo. The one time I can really tolerate his use of wah. He uses lots of cool things in that solo IMO.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I did say IMO. Fade to Black is great, but I don't care for the vocals/lyrics. Plus the ending is a bit predictable/cheesy... Ones ending is metal madness with some sweet soloing. :D[/QUOTE]

I think the fade out at the end actually adds to Fade to Black.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I did say IMO. Fade to Black is great, but I don't care for the vocals/lyrics. Plus the ending is a bit predictable/cheesy... Ones ending is metal madness with some sweet soloing. :D[/QUOTE]

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[QUOTE]I would have to say Fade to Black is.[/QUOTE]

I agree :D


[QUOTE]I think the fade out at the end actually adds to Fade to Black.[/QUOTE]

I never even thought of that, that's pretty cool

[QUOTE]
Alright. (1)One is the best of the ballads by far, (2)Blackened is a sweet album opener, (3)To Live is to Die is the best and has the most meening then any other song they've done, (4)Dyers Eve has the best solo Kirks ever done, (this can be argued, but I like it the most) (5)Harvester of Sorrows intro riffs are so awesome, it makes me want to die, (6)and the title track has sweet riffs/lyrics.

IMO
What makes RTL the best?[/QUOTE]

Ok

1- disagree. read further up my post
2- definitely
3- oh yes
4- nope. fade to black or struggle within maybe
5- they're good but i wouldn't die over them
6- yes it is, but about 4 minutes of them don't need to be there

RTL --
1. Coolish intro, don't like the singing but very headbangable
2. Probably one of the hardest corest of their riffs
3. Best non solo song, easily
4. Best ballad, no doubt
5. Best use of wah i'd say
6/7. very hardcore songs, not my favorites but very good
8. best instrumental solos

those are my reasons why RTL is the best

imagine if Metallica and Megadeth were to play a show together. Each band just like playing a few songs, and going back and forth between them like that for 3 or 4 hours. Even play the old stuff like Seek & Destory and Mechanix together. Fcking insane. I can only dream...

You think Ktulu has better solos then To Live Is To Die? Their good, but nothing beats the clean middle one in TLITD.

But yeah, I just generally like AJFA a lot more then the rest of the albums, and I like Fade To Black, but I like One about 5x more.

Mettalica Are So Overatted.

Orion > To Live is To Die imo.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]You think Ktulu has better solos then To Live Is To Die? Their good, but nothing beats the clean middle one in TLITD.

But yeah, I just generally like AJFA a lot more then the rest of the albums, and I like Fade To Black, but I like One about 5x more.[/QUOTE]

It's actually distorted, but i know what you mean. That's my favorite instrumental solo, but overall I like the COTK ones better.

Your right, it is distorted, haven't heard it in a while. Whatever, it sounds good clean or distorted. :P

I used to listen to Metallica 24/7. Then one day it clicked to me. I don't really think Metallica are that skillful. And yes, I know that I could never write an album like ...And Justice For All, I have only been playing guitar for two years.

I listen through Metallica's catalogue, and all I see are catchy riffs and catchy lyrics. At times I see something worthy or something quite complex, but Metallica aren't all that special.

Master of Puppets is dubbed one of the best Thrash Metal albums, when imo it only has two real thrash songs, Battery and Disposable Heroes (And that is only in some parts). Orion is just repetitive and has the overrated and simplistic bass interlude. I will admit though, that Master of Puppets was influential, but in a bad way. It influenced terrible bands that followed.

Lars controls the band whether people like to admit it or not. It was namely his idea to throw out Dave Mustaine, because he wanted James all to himself. It was Lars who didn't let Kirk have solos. It was Lars who told James not to pick Pepper (Once again, Lars knew James was friends with Pepper, and if Pepper joined the band, Lars wouldn't have James all to himself). So James, like the little puppet he is, joined the decision to hire Rob.

Metallica are trend followers. When thrash was going out, they moved out of thrash. When grunge was in, they created grunge-inspired albums. When down-tuned riffage with terrible singing was in, they moved to that style of music.

You'll probably be surprised to hear that the only albums I ever listen to anymore are the Loads. The rest sit dusty on my cd rack. I think the Loads are the most original albums Metallica have created. Plus the early albums remind me of all the tro0 metal fans that blindy praise them and overrate them, while underrating the rest of the albums.

I am not one of the people that goes around screaming "OH MAN METALLICA SUCKS LOL I AM REALLY COOL." I am not one of the people that expects everyone to believe what I believe and to listen to what I listen to. I respect Metallica, I respect Metallica's fans. And in a way, I still am a Metallica fan.

Please no bashing. I'm not asking anyone to agree. If you disagree that's fine, but please don't blindy bash me. Just express your opinion the way I have expressed mine.

[QUOTE=Mizuzack]I used to listen to Metallica 24/7. Then one day it clicked to me. I don't really think Metallica are that skillful. And yes, I know that I could never write an album like ...And Justice For All, I have only been playing guitar for two years.

I listen through Metallica's catalogue, and all I see are catchy riffs and catchy lyrics. At times I see something worthy or something quite complex, but Metallica aren't all that special.

Master of Puppets is dubbed one of the best Thrash Metal albums, when imo it only has two real thrash songs, Battery and Disposable Heroes (And that is only in some parts). Orion is just repetitive and has the overrated and simplistic bass interlude. I will admit though, that Master of Puppets was influential, but in a bad way. It influenced terrible bands that followed.

Lars controls the band whether people like to admit it or not. It was namely his idea to throw out Dave Mustaine, because he wanted James all to himself. It was Lars who didn't let Kirk have solos. It was Lars who told James not to pick Pepper (Once again, Lars knew James was friends with Pepper, and if Pepper joined the band, Lars wouldn't have James all to himself). So James, like the little puppet he is, joined the decision to hire Rob.

Metallica are trend followers. When thrash was going out, they moved out of thrash. When grunge was in, they created grunge-inspired albums. When down-tuned riffage with terrible singing was in, they moved to that style of music.

You'll probably be surprised to hear that the only albums I ever listen to anymore are the Loads. The rest sit dusty on my cd rack. I think the Loads are the most original albums Metallica have created. Plus the early albums remind me of all the tro0 metal fans that blindy praise them and overrate them, while underrating the rest of the albums.

I am not one of the people that goes around screaming "OH MAN METALLICA SUCKS LOL I AM REALLY COOL." I am not one of the people that expects everyone to believe what I believe and to listen to what I listen to. I respect Metallica, I respect Metallica's fans. And in a way, I still am a Metallica fan.

Please no bashing. I'm not asking anyone to agree. If you disagree that's fine, but please don't blindy bash me. Just express your opinion the way I have expressed mine.[/QUOTE]

U MUTHER FUKER!!!ILL FUKIN KILL U!!!
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: ...


LOL.....j/k

to be honest with u, i do not agree with u AT ALL....metallica is tha **** and will stay the **** untill the word **** is no longer a word......****......(for those of u who did not understand what i just said, plz scroll down to the bottom of this post 4 an explanation, thank you) so u can take ur metallica hatin *** and move to san fransisco.......u are abviously a metallica hater....and dont even try to deny it becuz u just wrote a whole fukin essay style article dissing tha holy grail of ****s outa metallica ..mmkay u suumbitch...so dont be bringin ur san fransisco livin *** out here to metallica land.....or we gone hunt ur *** down...suumbitch

(metallica is the greatest band of all time.....no matter what :D )

[QUOTE=harakirimusic]U MUTHER FUKER!!!ILL FUKIN KILL U!!!
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: ...


LOL.....j/k

to be honest with u, i do not agree with u AT ALL....metallica is tha **** and will stay the **** untill the word **** is no longer a word......****......(for those of u who did not understand what i just said, plz scroll down to the bottom of this post 4 an explanation, thank you) so u can take ur metallica hatin *** and move to san fransisco.......u are abviously a metallica hater....and dont even try to deny it becuz u just wrote a whole fukin essay style article dissing tha holy grail of ****s outa metallica ..mmkay u suumbitch...so dont be bringin ur san fransisco livin *** out here to metallica land.....or we gone hunt ur *** down...suumbitch

(metallica is the greatest band of all time.....no matter what :D )[/QUOTE]


Wow, you really expect me to take your post seriously after you flood me with the word ****. I expressed my opinion maturely, then you come screaming:

METALLICA IS THE **** OMG LMAO **** **** **** I'M GONNA HUNT YOU DOWN.

I already said you didn't have to agree with me, why are you going all crazy? If you didn't agree, you could have just said so.

You have to understand that harakirimusic is a moron.

Your opinion is fine to express here. The Metallica thread is designed for Metallica discussion, aslong as it's not just random bashing, as seen from our friend above you.

As far as Master of Puppets being considered the best Thrash album, that's not really the opinion of Thrash fans, more so Metal fans that don't have a true understanding or grasp of Thrash itself. There's plenty of albums better than MoP and I'll also agree that it's not really a fully fledged Thrash album. Never the less, it is an important part of metal history on the whole.

Technicallity isn't really Metallica's strong point and it's not intended to be. There's plenty of simple bands that are considered the best in their genre. You don't have to be technical to be good. Look at bands such as Celtic Frost, Mercyful Fate, Black Sabbath, Motorhead etc etc. None of these bands are technical, yet it doesn't matter. If you want Tech-Metal, there's thousands of good bands out there waiting to be listened to.

Your say on them following trends has me a little confused. Metallica released the Black Album in 1991, when Grunge was at it's biggest. The Black Album, to me, doesn't have a grunge influence at all. If you mean St. Anger as in the drop-tuning-nu-metal-feel, then I agree with that. All that aside, it didn't get them very far, as the album didn't sell too well for Metallica standards.

The Lars debate is another difficult one to answer. Personally I don't like the guys personality or his arrogance, but that's him and it's probably the reason why he hasn't been kicked out of the band. He acts as team leader, if you like.

Now, I'm not a 'Tr00' metal fan as you put it, but I know what I like. I like the first 4 albums because I like metal that sounds good and to me the first 4 albums do sound good. The technicality factor you talked about is pretty void if you're complaining about Metallica not being very technical and then only listening to Load and Re-Load. The first 4 albums are the most technical Metallica got.

Now, that's my opinion.