[QUOTE=Pluperfect_Arson;13492480]Morning, ebe.

Also, PaulSimonon, that is because it happens all the time there. Here, we receive snow once ever few winters, and then everyone is just crashing into each other and whatnot. It drives me absolutely bonkers.[/QUOTE]

You don't get much snow because of your proximity to the ocean?

[QUOTE=ebe9;13492484]I would have to drive to the mountains in the dead of winter to even see a light smattering of snow.


Ah, the joys of the Southern Hemisphere[/QUOTE]

Lucky. :lol:

You, generally, have to go up into the mountains to see any snow normally. One of the ski places over here even generates their own snow when there isn't much of it.

[quote=Pluperfect_Arson;13492494]Lucky. :lol:

You, generally, have to go up into the mountains to see any snow normally. One of the ski places over here even generates their own snow when there isn't much of it.[/quote]


The real funny thing is that I prefer the cold and the snow and all that stuff.

Its currently hitting up to 30 degrees Celcius durring the day at the moment.



I would honestly rather be cold and be able to dress up warmly than strip down to jocks and be sweating amd sticking to my seat.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13492514]The real funny thing is that I prefer the cold and the snow and all that stuff.

Its currently hitting up to 30 degrees Celcius durring the day at the moment.



I would honestly rather be cold and be able to dress up warmly than strip down to jocks and be sweating amd sticking to my seat.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I am the exact opposite. I would prefer to be hot allowing me take off my shirt and trousers just to cool off. Granted, you do feel gross when sweaty, but I hate being cold. And, with me being really thin, I become cold easily, but, when it is hot outside, I don't really start sweating until the temperature is like 35 Celsius up.

[quote=Pluperfect_Arson;13492539]Yeah, I am the exact opposite. I would prefer to be hot allowing me take off my shirt and trousers just to cool off. Granted, you do feel gross when sweaty, but I hate being cold. And, with me being really thin, I become cold easily, but, when it is hot outside, I don't really start sweating until the temperature is like 35 Celsius up.[/quote]


You say potatoe and I say potatoe

You say tomato and I say tomato........................................:thumb:

[QUOTE=ebe9;13492555]You say potatoe and I say potatoe

You say tomato and I say tomato........................................:thumb:[/QUOTE]

That saying doesn't work much when written out. :p

I wouldn't doubt it if we actually did pronounce it the same way. :lol:

[quote=Pluperfect_Arson;13492563]That saying doesn't work much when written out. :p

I wouldn't doubt it if we actually did pronounce it the same way. :lol:[/quote]


Curse the inability to fully express ones self over the internet.............hence the invention of the smiley, but even then they still lack the full range.


I think we need a "Disagreement of Opinion" aka "GTFO" smiley, that could be quite funny.

howdy :wave:

[quote=funkyhoney;13492587]howdy :wave:[/quote]


Heya mr. honey.



I unfortunately need to go, work becons.

Got a meeting later and need to prepare for it.



Cheers all, have a good one.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13492597]Heya mr. honey.



I unfortunately need to go, work becons.

Got a meeting later and need to prepare for it.



Cheers all, have a good one.[/QUOTE]

on a sunday?!

oh well, that sucks, later :wave:

[quote=funkyhoney;13492606]on a sunday?!

oh well, that sucks, later :wave:[/quote]


Last I checked it is now 09:42 on a monday morning here.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13492898]Last I checked it is now 09:42 on a monday morning here.[/QUOTE]

oh.. well.. i'm an idiot, bleh

i also got a new cort catalogue, suh-weet

[quote=funkyhoney;13492904]oh.. well.. i'm an idiot, bleh

i also got a new cort catalogue, suh-weet[/quote]


I love the GB94 with the figured maple top, beautiful bass that.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13492936]I love the GB94 with the figured maple top, beautiful bass that.[/QUOTE]

i noticed they have jazz's now, GB99B and GB99F
b for burl top and f for flamed maple.

GB94 is a helluva bass though, im thinking i really wish i had one instead of a 34 :p

but still i'm getting an artisan b4fl before anything else..

maybe when i graduate i'll buy myself an A4 or a 94. or some huge ****ing amp. :smash:

[quote=funkyhoney;13492954]i noticed they have jazz's now, GB99B and GB99F
b for burl top and f for flamed maple.

GB94 is a helluva bass though, im thinking i really wish i had one instead of a 34 :p

but still i'm getting an artisan b4fl before anything else..

maybe when i graduate i'll buy myself an A4 or a 94. or some huge ****ing amp. :smash:[/quote]


Good choice on the B4FL, my little one really is a fantastic bass.

And the swamp ash and wenge & maple neck really add to the tone.

The electronics let it down a little, I am not so fond ofthe Barts, but they do work for fretless.

I am actually wanting a 6er at the moment and was checking out a older TRB, but the neck is just too wide, so maybe an A6 is in order with a Aguilar preamp and some new pickups.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13492966]Good choice on the B4FL, my little one really is a fantastic bass.

And the swamp ash and wenge & maple neck really add to the tone.

The electronics let it down a little, I am not so fond ofthe Barts, but they do work for fretless.

I am actually wanting a 6er at the moment and was checking out a older TRB, but the neck is just too wide, so maybe an A6 is in order with a Aguilar preamp and some new pickups.[/QUOTE]

A6 = hawt

i wish i had one, but i'm happy with mr curbow.

but yeah, the b4fl will take the place of my main fretless, and my current one becomes a backup/storage counterpart. same deal with the GB when i get an A4, or something similar.

but still, definately a new cab is in order next year.

oh, and what strings do you use on that thing?

i'm thinking i could go with some flats but they suck. is the fingerboard hardy?

[quote=funkyhoney;13492974]A6 = hawt

i wish i had one, but i'm happy with mr curbow.

but yeah, the b4fl will take the place of my main fretless, and my current one becomes a backup/storage counterpart. same deal with the GB when i get an A4, or something similar.

but still, definately a new cab is in order next year.[/quote]

As far as a new amp setup is concerned, seriously give Eden a look.


Amps/Cabs I would not touch:

- Anything Ashdown
- Aguilar AG500

[quote=funkyhoney;13492977]oh, and what strings do you use on that thing?

i'm thinking i could go with some flats but they suck. is the fingerboard hardy?[/quote]


The fingerboard is unfinished indian rosewood.

I am currently using D'Addario Chromes on it and there is no wear that I can see.

It ships with roundwounds which is abit silly but I imagine for cost friendly, but I took those off immediately, they chew up the fingerboard pretty badly.

Stick with flats and it will last you a lifetime.


Also it pretty much defeats the purpose of a fretless sound if you string it up with rounds.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13492981]As far as a new amp setup is concerned, seriously give Eden a look.


Amps/Cabs I would not touch:

- Anything Ashdown
- Aguilar AG500[/QUOTE]


yeah, i'm thinking im gonna get an Eden 2x12, 500w, throw it under my 2x10, so i'll have 2 cabs both at 500w handeling. running at 450w at 2ohms (i think).

then if/when i need a new head, ill get like a 600w GK, Mesa Boogie, Gens Benz, Eden etc.

that should be fine right? a 600w head with 2 500w cabs

[QUOTE=ebe9;13492996]The fingerboard is unfinished indian rosewood.

I am currently using D'Addario Chromes on it and there is no wear that I can see.

It ships with roundwounds which is abit silly but I imagine for cost friendly, but I took those off immediately, they chew up the fingerboard pretty badly.

Stick with flats and it will last you a lifetime.


Also it pretty much defeats the purpose of a fretless sound if you string it up with rounds.[/QUOTE]


ill try and find some flats but may have to settle with nylon coated rounds, flats aren't exactly overflowing the shelves around here

[quote=funkyhoney;13492997]yeah, i'm thinking im gonna get an Eden 2x12, 500w, throw it under my 2x10, so i'll have 2 cabs both at 500w handeling. running at 450w at 2ohms (i think).

then if/when i need a new head, ill get like a 600w GK, Mesa Boogie, Gens Benz, Eden etc.

that should be fine right? a 600w head with 2 500w cabs[/quote]


Just remember that the wattage will be split evenly between the two cabs provided they gave the same ohm rating.

I.e.

Cab 1 = 8 Ohms (500W)

Cab 2 = 8 Ohms (500W)


Cab 1 + Cab 2 (running in parallel) = 1000W @ 4 Ohms


600W Head @ 4 Ohms means that each cab will be getting 300W @ 4 Ohms from the Head which should be fine.

Obviously don't do the stupid thing and run everything on full, otherwise you will be introduced to the wonderful world of clipping :p

[quote=funkyhoney;13493004]ill try and find some flats but may have to settle with nylon coated rounds, flats aren't exactly overflowing the shelves around here[/quote]


D'Addario Chromes are generally available the world over, they are one of the more common flatwound strings.


Worst case scenario, you order up a few packs online.



I still have the same set on my fretless since March I think and the suckers are still pushing the same tone now that they did then.

Great strings the chromes.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13493005]Just remember that the wattage will be split evenly between the two cabs provided they gave the same ohm rating.

I.e.

Cab 1 = 8 Ohms (500W)

Cab 2 = 8 Ohms (500W)


Cab 1 + Cab 2 (running in parallel) = 1000W @ 4 Ohms


600W Head @ 4 Ohms means that each cab will be getting 300W @ 4 Ohms from the Head which should be fine.

Obviously don't do the stupid thing and run everything on full, otherwise you will be introduced to the wonderful world of clipping :p[/QUOTE]


mmmkay, so i could then in fact run a 1000w head into those two cabs?

and will my 450w head provide enough to two 500w cabs? doesn't seem like it :(

[QUOTE=ebe9;13493007]D'Addario Chromes are generally available the world over, they are one of the more common flatwound strings.


Worst case scenario, you order up a few packs online.



I still have the same set on my fretless since March I think and the suckers are still pushing the same tone now that they did then.

Great strings the chromes.[/QUOTE]

hmmm, chromes eh.

i'll find some, and if not ill just get them online

[quote=funkyhoney;13493008]mmmkay, so i could then in fact run a 1000w head into those two cabs?

and will my 450w head provide enough to two 500w cabs? doesn't seem like it :([/quote]


450W will power two cabs of 500W, you just can't push them.


Best bet is to try and match the Amp power to the cab power, you can actually have a slightly more powerful amp but again just don't drive the speakers too hard.


600W should be fine, but 800W or a 1000W would be better.


Hence enter the Preamp and poweramp combo.



Personally all I would want would be the Eden 2X10XST cab paired with the Eden WT550 head.

500W should be more than enough for most people. And more and you should strictly speaking be going through the PA system.



Right, I have a meeting now so I will catch you later.

mmkay, later :wave:
thanks

I haven't smoked in 68 1/2 hours.

How good is this?

[quote=Polyamarous;13493167]I haven't smoked in 68 1/2 hours.

How good is this?[/quote]

And I bet your just craving that smooth flavour, then the sudden rush as the nicotine hits you bloodtream.

The way it tastes as you breathe it deep into your lungs and the immense satisfaction and instant gratification it brings.


You know you want one.








I like the darkside, I fit in here

Er... Roundwounds defeat the purpose of the fretless sound? Since when? The main fretless sound popularised by Jaco used rounds. They give far more warmth and growl to their sound than flats. I hear there are some flats out there that can still get that lovely growl sound though. Flats in general sound so much duller in tone than rounds.

[QUOTE=katana_manatee;13493276]Er... Roundwounds defeat the purpose of the fretless sound? Since when? The main fretless sound popularised by Jaco used rounds. They give far more warmth and growl to their sound than flats. I hear there are some flats out there that can still get that lovely growl sound though. Flats in general sound so much duller in tone than rounds.[/QUOTE]

i have no idea what strings to use :(

Hey people :wave:

yo :wave:

whats going on?

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;13493307]i have no idea what strings to use :([/QUOTE]

Rounds don't make nearly as much damage as most people think, at least as long as your not slapping it. They will form little barely visible marks but they don't have an effect on your sound or dig in that much. Nylon coated rounds or other types of coated rounds like Elixirs will be gentler on your fretboard and give you that classic fretless sound.

If in doubt, get the fretboard coated with a thin layer of lacquer, that will help a lot. I've been using rounds which are not coated on an untreated fretboard for about three years and the damage is minimal, doesn't affect the sound or feel at all. Basically there is a huge paranoia on fretboard damage that is really just that, huge paranoia.

You will make tiny grooves but it won't make your bass unplayable and after many many years if it is giving you any grief you can sand the fretboard down a little and have many more years of life. But by then, aren't you likely to have stepped up to far more expensive models with stronger fretboards anyway?

So go for whatever rounds you like.

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;13493326]yo :wave:

whats going on?[/QUOTE]

Not alot, I've been writing a bit more on my physics assignment. But lately I've been looking into a Xylophone made out of cowbells which I think would be singlehandly the greatest instrument ever created.

[QUOTE=katana_manatee;13493341]Rounds don't make nearly as much damage as most people think, at least as long as your not slapping it. They will form little barely visible marks but they don't have an effect on your sound or dig in that much. Nylon coated rounds or other types of coated rounds like Elixirs will be gentler on your fretboard and give you that classic fretless sound.

If in doubt, get the fretboard coated with a thin layer of lacquer, that will help a lot. I've been using rounds which are not coated on an untreated fretboard for about three years and the damage is minimal, doesn't affect the sound or feel at all. Basically there is a huge paranoia on fretboard damage that is really just that, huge paranoia.

You will make tiny grooves but it won't make your bass unplayable and after many many years if it is giving you any grief you can sand the fretboard down a little and have many more years of life. But by then, aren't you likely to have stepped up to far more expensive models with stronger fretboards anyway?

So go for whatever rounds you like.[/QUOTE]


touche'

good point, if i really get involved with music i will upgrade from an Artisan B4fl eventually.

i use nylon coated rounds on my current fretlees (POS jazz copy) and they work fine. hmm, when it arrives ill decide.

[quote=katana_manatee;13493276]Er... Roundwounds defeat the purpose of the fretless sound? Since when? The main fretless sound popularised by Jaco used rounds. They give far more warmth and growl to their sound than flats. I hear there are some flats out there that can still get that lovely growl sound though. Flats in general sound so much duller in tone than rounds.[/quote]


I am going on the factthatthe majority of fretted players will be using rounds of one sort or another and that fretless players would be using flats for the most part.

From what I have actually heard with rounds on a fretless, you are esentially getting a fretted type tone, which for me pretty much negates having a fretless.

I assume one purchases a fretless to get more of that fretless sound, not a fretted sound on a bass without frets.


Don't get me wrong, a fretless with rounds does sound good, but if I want that sound I would play my fretted bass. I bought my fretless becasue I wanted a completely different sound and by stringing it up with flats, that is what I have gotten, plus no matter how small the little ridges on the fretboard are from the rounds, they still bug me. I like the wood to be unmarked and able to show of its detail.

Most of the fretlesses I see in stores near me come strung with rounds from the factory... Even the ones without much coating on the fingerboard.

[quote=blizzard;13493388]Most of the fretlesses I see in stores near me come strung with rounds from the factory... Even the ones without much coating on the fingerboard.[/quote]


The reason for that is the cost of strings.


An "okay" set of rounds are a hell of a lot cheaper than an "okay" set of flats.


So it makes financial sense to ship them with rounds so that a basic set of strings is there to have tension on the neck.

Look at it this way, if you could save US$10 per bass you ship by putting on rounds instead of flats, and you ship 1000 basses, thats US$10 000 right there.

And of course the likes of Cort are shipping several thousand basses every day.

hmmm, i dunno, ill figure it out later.

i have big plans for my several basses.