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Tim 01-12-2006 12:05 PM

yeah stupid GC doesnt carry AA they just order them. bastards. anyway as for crashes maybe go 17 medium thin and 18 medium. Both the medium and medium thin AA crashes are good crashes. As for chinas, go with a traditional finish AA chinese in 18 or 20.

Sticks_of_Fury 01-12-2006 01:23 PM

[QUOTE=Sticks_of_Fury]What does everyone think of the HHX Stage Crashes? Going to the shop soon to check them out but just wondering what peoples experiences with them are.[/QUOTE]



Anyone?

chewaz 01-12-2006 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=Sticks_of_Fury]Anyone?[/QUOTE]
HHXtreme sound awesome it's like a china-crash, it's explosive and has a quick decay, i really dig them

Cocaberry 01-12-2006 03:20 PM

[QUOTE=forgottenDRUMMER]yeah stupid GC doesnt carry AA they just order them. bastards. anyway as for crashes maybe go 17 medium thin and 18 medium. Both the medium and medium thin AA crashes are good crashes. As for chinas, go with a traditional finish AA chinese in 18 or 20.[/QUOTE]

I want to go with 2 AA mediums though. What would be two good sizes for the mediums?

Also, how much harder would the mediums be to move than the medium-thins? I won't have to use a lot of forearm to move these right?

Tim 01-12-2006 04:53 PM

no. mediums arent hard to move. when you get into the larger ones like medium heavies n stuff then its a bit harder to get a good crash out of them. as for crash sizes i went with 16, 18 when i got my crashes. I shoudlve went 17, 19. I still like the 16, 18 though.

Cocaberry 01-13-2006 04:18 AM

[QUOTE=forgottenDRUMMER]no. mediums arent hard to move. when you get into the larger ones like medium heavies n stuff then its a bit harder to get a good crash out of them. as for crash sizes i went with 16, 18 when i got my crashes. I shoudlve went 17, 19. I still like the 16, 18 though.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I think 17 and 19 would be good sizes. My 16" is kinda splashy but maybe thats only an XS20 thing.

Thanks for the help! :thumb:

Chester 01-13-2006 11:02 AM

well i would really want to try out a crash in person before buying it, so its tough to say. Id look at the crashes they have in stock at GC as well just to see what you think of them

Hammerheart 01-13-2006 12:52 PM

Need suggestions for a good dark crash 18 inches and up, right now i have a 16" AAXplosion, 17" A Custom and 18" Pro sonix that has a small crack in it from a retarded friend, so im looking for something dark.

Tim 01-13-2006 03:15 PM

[QUOTE=Hammerheart]Need suggestions for a good dark crash 18 inches and up, right now i have a 16" AAXplosion, 17" A Custom and 18" Pro sonix that has a small crack in it from a retarded friend, so im looking for something dark.[/QUOTE]

look at the sabian HHX crashes.

aznriceball 01-13-2006 03:18 PM

I'd say 18" K Custom Dark Crash, 18" K Custom Fast Crash, 20" HHX Stage Crash and 18" HHX Evolution Crash are some to keep in mind

Hammerheart 01-13-2006 03:20 PM

[QUOTE=aznriceball]I'd say 18" K Custom Dark Crash, 18" K Custom Fast Crash, 20" HHX Stage Crash and 18" HHX Evolution Crash are some to keep in mind[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

TTTSNB 01-13-2006 10:00 PM

[quote=Cocaberry]I want to go with 2 AA mediums though. What would be two good sizes for the mediums?

Also, how much harder would the mediums be to move than the medium-thins? I won't have to use a lot of forearm to move these right?[/quote]
17" and 19". And nah, mediums are a perfect weight IMO, the only thing I prefer heavier is the ride.

Brokensticks 01-14-2006 12:41 AM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Its time for me to upgrade my crashes. Heres what I'm working with:

20" AAX Stage Ride (Brilliant finish)
14" AAX Stage Hats (Brilliant finish)
16" and 18" XS20 medium thin crashes (These are what I'm upgrading)

I am pretty sure I want to get some AA Medium crashes in brilliant finish. I need help picking the right combination.

Should I go with 17" and 19"? 16" and 18"? 17" and 18"? 18" and 19"? Its a hard decision. I don't want anything bigger than 19" or smaller than 16".

Also, I am thinking about getting a china. What chinas would you guys suggest for my setup? I was thinking maybe an 18", 19", or 20" china, definitely AA or AAX.

My GCs around here are really ****ty. They don't carry AAs in stock at all cause they say they don't sell good. So I can't hear these AAs in person. GC is about the only place to try-and-buy cymbals around here also. :([/QUOTE]


We have the same Ride and hats. I have the Stage crashes 18" and 16" They go great together but I wish I checked into the AAXplosions more. I might buy the 17" and 19" so I have 4 crashes one day.

The AA medium crashes are very nice too. They are about the right weight and sound fantastic. the reason they don't sell good is because they dont stock em :p

for the china the 17" AAXtreme china is excellent. If you don't want to spend the money though look into Wuhan.

Cocaberry 01-14-2006 01:58 AM

[QUOTE=Brokensticks]
for the china the 17" AAXtreme china is excellent. If you don't want to spend the money though look into Wuhan.[/QUOTE]

Well what would be a good Wuhan china? I don't know anything about Wuhan so I really need help in that area.

Also how do the AAXtreme chinas, the AAX chinas, and the AA chinas compare to each other?

Brokensticks 01-14-2006 02:00 AM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Well what would be a good Wuhan china? I don't know anything about Wuhan so I really need help in that area.

Also how do the AAXtreme chinas, the AAX chinas, and the AA chinas compare to each other?[/QUOTE]

I've never heard a Wuhan china but they get much praise they are a must to try out though because of the hand hammering and individual sounds.

Jamiem89 01-14-2006 06:29 AM

I want a cymbal pack including 14" hats, 16" crash and 18" ride for cheap...about £120 any ideas? thanks xxx :P

Bullet for My Valentine 01-14-2006 07:57 AM

for £120 you could get piaste 101s or sabian solars they are both quite cheap althought the 101s are better.. you would also have enough to say get a 14" crash or 12" splash say.. or you could save up some more for some zildjian Zbts as they are pretty good to start with:thumb: :chug:

Tim 01-14-2006 09:57 AM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Well what would be a good Wuhan china? I don't know anything about Wuhan so I really need help in that area.

Also how do the AAXtreme chinas, the AAX chinas, and the AA chinas compare to each other?[/QUOTE]


As far as wuhan chinas go i beleive they are made the same way just different sizes.

AS for the AAX chinas.....The AAXtreme chinese will be a bit more fast and not as "trashy" as the reg AAX chinese. the AAXtreme and AAX chinas are different sizes the aaxtreme is 15, 17, 19 and the aax china is 16, 18, 20. Also the AA chinese has slight trashyness to it but still is kinda bright as are the other chinas too. the AA chinese has a decent attack to it. I own the traditional AA chinese in 18inch and i love it. Something to look into. I want to get a 20inch AA to add onto it. I dont know anything about the AA fast chinese other than it will probably have a faster decay than the other chinas.

Retarded Chipple 01-14-2006 12:43 PM

Hey guys, just wondering what your opinions on Paiste 2oo2 Heavy Ride are...

Massik Kretal 01-14-2006 07:11 PM

Does it come in 24"?

steve_o_69 01-14-2006 07:15 PM

a raw heavy powerfull upffront all out dark 18 crash

ericcantsleep 01-14-2006 08:37 PM

How do you guys feel about the Paiste 13'' Mega Cup Chime or the 12'' Flanger Bell

Iskandar 01-14-2006 11:25 PM

[QUOTE=ericcantsleep]How do you guys feel about the Paiste 13'' Mega Cup Chime or the 12'' Flanger Bell[/QUOTE]
They're cool but do you really need them?

Murd_666 01-15-2006 09:23 AM

I'm looking for a bell effect with a full ping sound, I've already tried the Ice bells and i was not satisfied. Both LP and Sabian ones.

Loser 01-15-2006 09:23 AM

I'm looking for another ride. Currently I have a K custom Dark Ride (20") and I love it, but it's too washy for some situations, and a little too dark for some. I want a ride that is clear, defined, and somewhat bright. If you've heard the bell of an A custom Projection Crash, I want one with a bell somewhat similar to that.

I'd like some names of possible solutions before I head to the shop, because they have hundreds of cymbals there, and I could spend weeks trying every possible way of striking ever cymbal they have, and then they'd get new ones in.

Thanks.

Tim 01-15-2006 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=Murd_666]I'm looking for a bell effect with a full ping sound, I've already tried the Ice bells and i was not satisfied. Both LP and Sabian ones.[/QUOTE]

try the zildjian efx zil bells. those are nice. same with the stagg ones.

Tim 01-15-2006 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=Loser]I'm looking for another ride. Currently I have a K custom Dark Ride (20") and I love it, but it's too washy for some situations, and a little too dark for some. I want a ride that is clear, defined, and somewhat bright. If you've heard the bell of an A custom Projection Crash, I want one with a bell somewhat similar to that.

I'd like some names of possible solutions before I head to the shop, because they have hundreds of cymbals there, and I could spend weeks trying every possible way of striking ever cymbal they have, and then they'd get new ones in.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

not sure if it would match a proj crash bell but try out the A ping rides. not the a custom ones though just the reg A.

-The-Red-Chord- 01-15-2006 08:44 PM

Zildjian A custom fast crash 17" and 18"

or

Sabian Stage (AAX) 16" and 18"??

styler 01-15-2006 09:28 PM

id get the a customs

Tim 01-15-2006 10:45 PM

[QUOTE=-The-Red-Chord-]Zildjian A custom fast crash 17" and 18"

or

Sabian Stage (AAX) 16" and 18"??[/QUOTE]


Id go with the stage.

aznriceball 01-15-2006 11:52 PM

[QUOTE=-The-Red-Chord-]Zildjian A custom fast crash 17" and 18"

or

Sabian Stage (AAX) 16" and 18"??[/QUOTE]

if 16 id go stage, but the 17/18 fast crashes total pwn the 17/18 stages

-The-Red-Chord- 01-16-2006 10:44 AM

Thnx alot!

chewaz 01-16-2006 12:32 PM

14"HHX groove hats, 22" groove ride, 10" HHX splash, 16" and 18" HHXtreme crash?? liked it???

full collapse 01-16-2006 04:54 PM

Does the A Custom Mastersounds have a medium-thin top and medium bottom, or medium-thin top and extra heavy bottom?

Because the zildjian website says both.

And i'm looking for a ride that's similar to the 21" A Custom Projection ride, but with a bit brighter and louder bell.

straycat101 01-16-2006 07:15 PM

What is the closest Zildjian/Sabian equivilent to a Wuhan China? if there is such a thing....

chewaz 01-16-2006 08:09 PM

[QUOTE=chewaz]14"HHX groove hats, 22" groove ride, 10" HHX splash, 16" and 18" HHXtreme crash?? liked it???[/QUOTE]

it's kinda urgent plz :)

full collapse 01-16-2006 08:36 PM

There isn't anything wrong with those cymbals.

chewaz 01-17-2006 12:35 AM

i meat any, reviews or something like that? i want a "ZZZZ" hats, a ride that is not too washy, not as washy as an aax stage, "to make busy ride patterns", and a splash that cuts trough with fast decay?? do they get close to what i meant?

boss 01-17-2006 12:44 AM

do they have it at the store you're looking at?

aznriceball 01-17-2006 12:47 AM

might wanna try u a 22" A ping

some other favs with ur attributes ur describing

21" hh raw bell dry ride
22" k heavy ride


the splash, maybe think about either a 10" wuhan splash or an 8" AA china splash, most likely the china splash

the groove hats are very distinct, ull definitely wanna listen to those on the sites at least if u cant try em out. also suggest 14 k hats, and 13 hhx groove hats


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