if you read his newsletters there is secret meanings. he hints at them so you'll get them, but he tries without leaving everyone in the dark.

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]have you heard the apc cover of vacant? good, good stuff.[/QUOTE]
I downloaded that but it titled it as Perfect Enemy by apc and its live so unless they played at a concert before eMOTIVES release I do not know... :confused:

I`ll make my first post by saying Tool is the best pure rock band today.
Hello :wave:

[QUOTE=Bumpy]Hi. Please don't attack me if these questions have already been answered on here. Just let me know and I'll find them myself.

- When and why did Maynard start using the name 'Maynard'?

- If you think he was molested, which I do, who do you think did it?

- I read on the Tool faq's on their site that Maynard has said in the past that he didn't like his stepfather. Anyone know anymore about that?

- How long was he involved with the mother of his son?

- Do you know anything about his current girlfriend?

Thanks! :p[/QUOTE]

Even though Tool is certainly not one of my favourite bands, I'm a fan of Maynard himself. He's one of my favourite singers. Here is some informaiton that I've found on him that might answer some of these questions:

Maynard's first wife was Jennifer Brena Furgeson. That's where the song "Brena" comes from (APC, Mer de Noms).

And here is another little information that I didn't see mentioned in the forums. (well, maybe it was.. but I didn't see it). Maynard's mother was Turkish. She and George Keenan got married. And, James and Lara were born. Now, this might prove that the "stepfather" thing is just wrong. Because Maynard's parents are still living in Turkey. I even know the town they live in. I'm sure that this information is %99 true. I was able to know this because, simply, I'm Turkish. I got this information from a book which has nothing to do with Tool. But I'm pretty sure about this.

About Maynard's second wife: She's also Turkish... that's all I know.

[QUOTE]It shows a picture of someone/something each time yes? These are random people half the time, and buy putting them up on tool's website, they get their 15 minutes of fame. Hence 15 minutes.[/QUOTE]

Hence the quote "In the future, everybody will have 15 minutes of fame." - A. Warhol" that you can see when you highlight the entire page.

i just read the article again, and he says that justion had "lightning fast" basslines....
that is going to be very weird because.... i dont really kow hwy i just think it will be.

but i hope they do put a clipn of their new song/s up because that would make my christmas!
but yeah i just cant wait till the album comes out.

and the release date was 2005- Spring right? or was it Summer? :confused:

[QUOTE=Phunphone]Even though Tool is certainly not one of my favourite bands, I'm a fan of Maynard himself. He's one of my favourite singers. Here is some informaiton that I've found on him that might answer some of these questions:

Maynard's first wife was Jennifer Brena Furgeson. That's where the song "Brena" comes from (APC, Mer de Noms).

And here is another little information that I didn't see mentioned in the forums. (well, maybe it was.. but I didn't see it). Maynard's mother was Turkish. She and George Keenan got married. And, James and Lara were born. Now, this might prove that the "stepfather" thing is just wrong. Because Maynard's parents are still living in Turkey. I even know the town they live in. I'm sure that this information is %99 true. I was able to know this because, simply, I'm Turkish. I got this information from a book which has nothing to do with Tool. But I'm pretty sure about this.

About Maynard's second wife: She's also Turkish... that's all I know.[/QUOTE]
Thanks so much for the information. I didn't know he was married before. It's impossible to find any info on him on the net. I know cause I've tried. If you 'learn' anymore about him, please share. :thumb:

As much as a tool fan I am, i've neverbeen a massive MJK fan myself. (although shouting out 'You're a god! and getting a thumbs up at an APC concert goes against that)

i dont know why, there is just something about some of his view and double meanings that I find annoying. I love his lyrics, voice,etc, but his view points I tend to diagree with most of the time.

Random MJK fact to add to the family thing (though the regulars here will know it im sure), Judith was named after MJK mother, now sadly deceased.

And SFK, you may have put me one step closer to a great Christams present. Ill (pointlessly) rep your next post here as thanks

...I have never once heard anything about Maynard/Maynard's family and Turkey, ever.

His bio says something about growing up in like Michigan or something? :confused:

i havent been here in months and am too lazy to read the many many pages that have been written...so any important news or any news at all about new tool material?? i read the jellybean article at toolband.com but thats it

[QUOTE=The JoZ]...I have never once heard anything about Maynard/Maynard's family and Turkey, ever.

His bio says something about growing up in like Michigan or something? :confused:[/QUOTE]

True. Me neither, well, in the internet. He DID grew up in Michigan, so, this means their family directly moved to Michigan. Therefore, Maynard never grew up in Turkey. The thing that confuses me is, why Maynard himself never mentioned his family roots... well, maybe because it is unimportant (which I respect). And that'd easily prevent this information from being all over the internet.
It may still not seem logical, but.. just trust me. There was a family tree in the end of the book, and at the very bottom, it said: "Maynard James Keenan- The lead singer of an American metal band "Tool"." And then, there was this little info. I would scan the book if I had it... it was actually one of my friends who showed me this.

Anyone find a really good lateralus bass tab. The ones of mx tabs arent very good and i sure as hell aint gonna tab it.

[QUOTE=Remedy]Anyone find a really good lateralus bass tab. The ones of mx tabs arent very good and i sure as hell aint gonna tab it.[/QUOTE]

[url]www.tooltabs.net[/url] the guy nolan venhola and his friends opened the website i've yet to find a crappy tab from him.

I question their Aenima tab. Apart from that, every tool tab I use has come from there

did you hear the rumor that nolan was possibly adam jones. it was all bs but could you imagine getting an e-mail like that.

To: Adam Jones is GOD
From: Adam Jones
RE: Guitar

So you dont think my tab is correct then? Right, im never bringing tool to England again!
But thanks for the God reference







Yeah, that would be weird/cool

NEVER BRINGING TOOL TO ENGLAND AGAIN


i dont know that sounds pretty *** to me

sorry


On the topic of tool, looking forward to the new album (oversaid and obvious ) but still im very excited so far..


and i want those jelly beans

Just listen to the music.
 

[QUOTE=ToolOwnsYou]Ok guys, here is your "Official" Tool thread. Anything Tool related belongs here, don't create new threads. Also feel free to Discuss A Perfect Circle, Pigmy Love Circus, Zaum, or any other projects the guys from Tool work on. If you post something negative about Tool post up why you think and feel that way. If you post up "Tool Sucks" and don't give your reasoning your not gonna like the consequences.

Ok, lets have some good conversation and everyone enjoy. SFK.





TOOL Music Theory.

This is my attempt to make a decent thread where TOOL fans can come and discuss
What they think TOOL song(s) mean to them, or what message was the band trying to get across.
As the band put it, in an interview, TOOL likes to leave their message hard to grab, they
want you to use your brain. TOOL wants you to make your own meaning of the song, or grasp
what the song means to them.

Im looking for theory/opinion, lyrical/musical breakdown of a song, Please dont spam this thread by writing about how you feel about any certain band member, who best or better, any A Perfect Circle/Tool relations lets try to keep this theory, and theory only. (i.e. Maynard is so cool! Danny is the best! A Perfect Circle is better then TOOL etc etc etc.)

If you are going to post, please no your theory on Aenima, was lame if you are going to post that, please have enough thinking power, to post your own theory if you feel something was incorrect. Intelligence is the key factor for this thread!!! If you are missing a few bolts upstairs, save yourself from the humiliation, and save us the wasted time that we had to use to read your meaningless post. If you are doing a breakdown of a song, please quote lyrics, so everyone can be on the same page. An overview is acceptable also..

Here is an example of what I am looking for.

[b]
Album:Opiate
Track: Opiate
[/b]

I feel this track is being narrated through a pastor/preachers point of view. There is always controversy about if this song is to make you look down, or not believe in Christ. My opinion is the song is talking down about Christ in a sarcastic way
[B][I]
Jesus Christ, why don't you
come save my life.
Open my eyes and blind me
with your light
and your lies.
[/I] [/B]

On top of that Maynard is making fun of religion, by calling a religious person blind, deaf, dumb, & born to follow.

[B][I]
Choices always were a problem for you.
What you need is someone strong to guide you.
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow,
what you need is someone strong to use you...
like me,
like me.
[/I][/B]

Meaning Christians, or a religious person cannot guide themselves in their own direction in life, they cant make their own choices to be happy in life, they have to follow someone to have any sense or happiness in their life. Or the metaphor blind, deaf, dumb meaning a person who doesnt see through lies or gimmicks, yet sees millions of other doing it, so he/she follows.

[B][I]
My God's will
becomes me.
When he speaks out,
he speaks through me.
He has needs
like I do.
We both want
to rape you.
[/I][/B]

Back to how I was saying this song is through a pastors point of view, I feel the needs he speaks of, is money. And raping you would be you sitting there believing lies so he can take all your donation money.


[B]Welp there ya go.. there is a basic outline of "opiate" hope this works out the way I plan... happy posting..[/B].

:evil:[/QUOTE]
Dont spend your whole **** life talking about what it means. just listen

[QUOTE=ThirteenthStep]i havent been here in months and am too lazy to read the many many pages that have been written...so any important news or any news at all about new tool material?? i read the jellybean article at toolband.com but thats it[/QUOTE]
The article about the 18 minute song that's supposedly better than anything they've ever made?

:naughty:

[QUOTE=kcuFdniM]Dont spend your whole **** life talking about what it means. just listen[/QUOTE]

Dont pointlessly quote the first page of this thread just to make a pointless remark like that

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]I question their Aenima tab. Apart from that, every tool tab I use has come from there[/QUOTE]

Yes same here. I think their intro is wrong. I found some other accurate tabs for that song though.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Dont pointlessly quote the first page of this thread just to make a pointless remark like that[/QUOTE]

Yes please. That is annoying. And stupid.

so is double posting :rolleyes:

but no way near as annoying as that bloke back there

[QUOTE=kcuFdniM ]Dont spend your whole **** life talking about what it means. just listen[/QUOTE]

Don't be a douche, and open your mind.

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Yes same here. I think their intro is wrong. I found some other accurate tabs for that song though.[/QUOTE]

Seriously, I feel very crappy for this, but i can never ever nail the intro at all. I just seem to have rythym issues with it. I thought it was my tone, so I got an acousitc version to listen to (not Tool's, a friend at uni recorded it for me), and I tried acousticly (I thought it was my crappy Marshall MG tone that was the problem), and still cant get it.

What sucks more, is that a band at my local Academy Of Sound is auditioning for a Tool tribute band guitarist, and THATS the audition track :upset: The only (better known) track that i cant get a part of.

As i would (and already do) sound and feel n00bish asking in the guitar forum, I put it to you guys to give me advice. (rep seems like a good reward to the guy/girl* who helps me crack it)


*do we have any girl posters in here by the way? I only know most of you by usernames mainly

the intro is simple, you dont pick(1 exception) all hammer ons and pulls offs for the 2 and 0. when you get to the higher pitch notes, you pick at the same time you pull off the 2. you probably knew that part but i'm just cover all my bases here. the next part is tricky i can do it, it sounds a little off when done with the cd, but alone it will pass. play it like the intro, keep in mind that it's a real screwy time sig. you hammer and pull the first two, pick the next then hammer. do that over and over again. just listen for the "passage up or down" as i call it. the two to four to five is tricky you just have to do it over and over till you get it right. i hope this helped, you gave very valuable advice on stinkfist and i'm hoping to return the favor.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]I question their Aenima tab. Apart from that, every tool tab I use has come from there[/QUOTE]

I question their Parabola tabs too.

I learned to play it, except for the low B notes, by ear, and I have never done that octave thing with the E's...

It might be done on guitar, but I really don't think it needs to be done on bass. You can play it just fine without it.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Seriously, I feel very crappy for this, but i can never ever nail the intro at all. I just seem to have rythym issues with it. I thought it was my tone, so I got an acousitc version to listen to (not Tool's, a friend at uni recorded it for me), and I tried acousticly (I thought it was my crappy Marshall MG tone that was the problem), and still cant get it.

What sucks more, is that a band at my local Academy Of Sound is auditioning for a Tool tribute band guitarist, and THATS the audition track :upset: The only (better known) track that i cant get a part of.

As i would (and already do) sound and feel n00bish asking in the guitar forum, I put it to you guys to give me advice. (rep seems like a good reward to the guy/girl* who helps me crack it)


*do we have any girl posters in here by the way? I only know most of you by usernames mainly[/QUOTE]

Ah lets see. It took me a bit to get the intro. I still don't know if I'm doing it right. I'm playing it mainly by ear. I used to think Adam used some effects on that intro, to make it sounds like that. lol. But I think the best thing is that once you know the notes to play, listen for the rhythm. I don't think there is a specific way to play it. I think it just depends on what is easier for you. I don't know if that helped any. But here is the site that I think had very accurate Aenema tabs. I think he has the intro perfect. See if it helps any. [URL=http://guitar.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://members.tripod.com/%7ETOOLsmart/aenima.html]Aenema Tab[/URL]

^ Sounds good to me...

If you post a recording we may be able to help :thumb:

I dont have a problem with playing it tool tabs way. I just use my fretting hand for the bottom notes...then play the open strings with my pick, works for me.

Good luck with the audition if you go, we want recordings if you're in :thumb:

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Ah lets see. It took me a bit to get the intro. I still don't know if I'm doing it right. I'm playing it mainly by ear. I used to think Adam used some effects on that intro, to make it sounds like that. lol. But I think the best thing is that once you know the notes to play, listen for the rhythm. I don't think there is a specific way to play it. I think it just depends on what is easier for you. I don't know if that helped any. But here is the site that I think had very accurate Aenema tabs. I think he has the intro perfect. See if it helps any. [URL=http://guitar.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://members.tripod.com/%7ETOOLsmart/aenima.html]Aenema Tab[/URL][/QUOTE]

That one is the easiest to get to grips with by far. I suppose it doesnt matter if its not played using the full power chord, the D string makes it sound good enough with the right tone. Now ill get learning the other parts (the solo part was the first bit I learned, another goosebump one from Adam)

Btw, do you guys use a slide when playing it? I know people say they play it without, but for me it just sounds so much better and closer to the original that way.

And if they are still auditions and I do go, and IF I get in, I will put up some audio. Although after christmas, i might just put up some guitar parts, and you lot can judge them. As long as you all do the same (cough 'SFK put up some of his band's audio' cough)