[QUOTE=cigaro88]lateralus is one of the best albums i heard. [B]it brings 'heavy' to another new level[/B], and the flow of thealbum is great[/QUOTE]

I like that. It's a good way of saying it.

Ok, the name changing has got to stop. I have no idea who the hell is whom anymore.

[quote=me]I was a tad tired of trying to argue a point and just getting a post in response going, "Har har, atleast my name isnt Sliptallica LoLZ!!!1!uno!!1"[/quote]

It isn't the big a deal anyways. I'll keep my user-title like that for awhile.

:lol: That justifies it, I guess, but I always liked your name. Beyond the fact that it was combining two bands I don't like, I thought it always fit you. I dunno, I'll get used to this, I guess. :)

EDIT: Oh, I feel like an idiot. I just saw your response to my same question in the community thread. :(

[QUOTE=Kage]Ok, the name changing has got to stop. I have no idea who the hell is whom anymore.[/QUOTE]

Im clearvision now. We swapped names

I wonder if any dedicated Tool fan drummers (with wallets the size of my room) are getting hold of that drum technology and trying to second guess the sound of the album through using them?

And the 'super fast' trigger thing sounds cool. Does it like, set off the trigger BEFORE you hit it?

i'm watching apc live at pittsburgh, they are awsome .
y didnt they put the band version of 'the nurse who loved me' into any of their albums

[QUOTE=cigaro88]i'm watching apc live at pittsburgh, they are awsome .
y didnt they put the band version of 'the nurse who loved me' into any of their albums[/QUOTE]
So, you want to upload that? I've wanted live APC for a while.

any news on the new release?

is that TOoL DVD out? what is that all about?

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Im clearvision now. We swapped names[/QUOTE]

'Sup Rob?

I don't post here much anymore, the world of tool has just gone so flat, news was building, then it all just collapsed. :(

[QUOTE=Kage]:lol: That justifies it, I guess, but I always liked your name. Beyond the fact that it was combining two bands I don't like, I thought it always fit you. I dunno, I'll get used to this, I guess. :)

EDIT: Oh, I feel like an idiot. I just saw your response to my same question in the community thread. :([/QUOTE]

Heh, Huber is my name. It suits :p

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Im clearvision now. We swapped names

I wonder if any dedicated Tool fan drummers (with wallets the size of my room) are getting hold of that drum technology and trying to second guess the sound of the album through using them?

And the 'super fast' trigger thing sounds cool. Does it like, set off the trigger BEFORE you hit it?[/QUOTE]

When my income gets larger I'm definetly investing into a module and some trigger pads. Acoustic/Electric hybrid kits are great.

i didn't know you can change your name... i was sure it's forever.

so huber = ex-sliptallica
the patient = ?

[QUOTE=clearvision]'Sup Rob?

I don't post here much anymore, the world of tool has just gone so flat, news was building, then it all just collapsed. :([/QUOTE]

Same here, least the waiting isnt as unberable now with lots of other good releases/great bands touring

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Same here, least the waiting isnt as unberable now with lots of other good releases/great bands touring[/QUOTE]
Very true.

[QUOTE=repcak]the patient = ?[/QUOTE]
Err... ThePatient, or Jeff if that tickles your fancy. I just haven't come around much lately, so I guess that's why you didn't recognize me.

[QUOTE=satchforever]Glad to see another Tool fan on here. Honestly, your view on Lateralus is actually pretty good. I personally don't believe that that was what the band was going for, but what do I know? All the songs, technically, do seem to fit in with the idea of a man and his relationship with his god. I've never really heard that idea or theory before, but I like it. I do sense a lot of spiritualness in the lyrics actually. Plus, you know, the band says that Lateralus means "upward thinking." Taken literally, since the cliche is that heaven is above us and hell is below us, it could mean upward in the sense of God.[/QUOTE]

I really like this type of thought process towards their music. Though, I think the phrase of "upward thinking" goes beyond the restrictions of simple Heaven and Hell..
Tool were always the first to criticise the persona known as Satan, and Satan being the mythical ring leader of Hell, I doubt they find heaven or Hell as a basis for their thinking.. Besides, I don't think Danny Carey would bother with Satan or his opposing God..
Rather it's inner upward thinking. Self-improving and reaching a higher level of humanity and consciousness...46+2..
It's really shown in their fondness in Alex Grey and titles of their songs. You can even look at the comic genius of Bill Kicks and see where their thinking and beliefs lay..

[QUOTE=Esoteric_Creator]
Tool were always the first to criticise the persona known as Satan...[/QUOTE]

That's awfully presumptuous of you to say that. I think pretty much all religious music in Western culture was condemning Satan many centuries before Tool or rock music in general was formed.

People like this were the reason I held off on visiting the Tool thread. I consider Tool to be a very good band, and one that I enjoy listening to, but their fans seem to have this cult surrounding the band. They twist the cryptic lyrics into this massive bombardment of spirituality and higher meaning that it really takes all the fun out of the music for me. Music doesn't HAVE to be a path to enlightenment, you can still enjoy it on many other levels without complicating things.

I realize that Tool is a very complicated band, and by over-explaining things I'm just digging myself deeper and deeper, so I'll try to stop. Phew.

[QUOTE=Esoteric_Creator]I really like this type of thought process towards their music. Though, I think the phrase of "upward thinking" goes beyond the restrictions of simple Heaven and Hell..
Tool were always the first to criticise the persona known as Satan, and Satan being the mythical ring leader of Hell, I doubt they find heaven or Hell as a basis for their thinking.. Besides, I don't think Danny Carey would bother with Satan or his opposing God..
Rather it's inner upward thinking. Self-improving and reaching a higher level of humanity and consciousness...46+2..
It's really shown in their fondness in Alex Grey and titles of their songs. You can even look at the comic genius of Bill Kicks and see where their thinking and beliefs lay..[/QUOTE]

The way you view Tool's lyrics is how I view them too actually, I was just saying how I liked his views too.

yeah, i like tool but i don't look at the lyrics soooo exactly/carefully. i listen to the lyrics, i read them and try to think about the meaning; but i don't overdo this.
the music is more important for me and there are bands whom lyrics i can identify more than with tool.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Same here, least the waiting isnt as unberable now with lots of other good releases/great bands touring[/QUOTE]

Meh i listen to loads of pop-punk atm. Though ig ot tickets to alec empire ont he 13th of october :D, he better be good.

I also agree with the aforementioned point about Tool being overwrought in terms of the meaning of everything they do. I think a lot of the songs are simpler than many here think. The lyrics are very good and meaningful to an extent, but they aren't brilliant.

[QUOTE=Dried Muffin Remnants]I also agree with the aforementioned point about Tool being overwrought in terms of the meaning of everything they do. I think a lot of the songs are simpler than many here think. The lyrics are very good and meaningful to an extent, but they aren't brilliant.[/QUOTE]

In this world where words like awesome, brilliant, and outstanding are used on an everyday basis just to emphasize how great something is they kind of lose there meaning. The word awesome is hardly ever used to actually describe something that left people in awe and so on.

My point is to say and use the real definition of brilliant: Marked by unusual and impressive intellectual acuteness; that kind of does describe most of Maynards lyrics I think, and is kind of accurate.

Either way, I think that all these attempts to say that it isn't so good, or they aren't truly unique etc., is just us regulars in the thread trying to not be called fanboys. That's kinda lame, we all know we don't worship Maynard or herald them as the best band ever. That would be ignorant. But to say that Maynard's lyrics are unique or took some wit isn't. It's pretty easy to see that they are unique and often witty at times.

Meh, that almost sounds offensive now that I read it, but I'm just trying to make a point. I don't mean any offense.

I think Maynard is a great lyricist...but people take it too far, as we all know. It's fun to delve into the meanings of the songs, but lyrics shouldn't be taken as some almighty gospel of higher spirituality or being. They're lyrics to a rock song, and they are often cryptic, which is part of the fun.

[QUOTE=Kage]I think Maynard is a great lyricist...but [B]people take it too far[/B], as we all know. It's fun to delve into the meanings of the songs, but lyrics shouldn't be taken as some almighty gospel of higher spirituality or being. They're lyrics to a rock song, and they are often cryptic, which is part of the fun.[/QUOTE]

But none of us do. We aren't "their fans". Some of "their fans" are complete idiots, but like I said I don't think the posters in this thread are the ones who need to be avoided.

That comment about Tool being the first to criticize Satan was wrong, but I don't think it was meant that they were the first in history. I think he meant more like they are always willing to come out and do so. It was just worded wrong I think.

[B]Track 69[/B]

I love how they named it that cause the 6 and 9 are the same up you turn it and it goes on forever like they say in the song... [B]life feeds on life feeds on life[/B] but I am confused on what the real meaning is.

the funny thing about me is that i'm not a fanboy of tool. i am in this thread only cause of the ppl and the topics.
i would rather call me a CoB-fanboy or NIN-fanboy... even more DT-fanboy than tool.

don't understand me wrong. i like tool, their music, everything... but i am not fanatic.

[QUOTE=Stinkfist2][B]Track 69[/B]

I love how they named it that cause the 6 and 9 are the same up you turn it and it goes on forever like they say in the song... [B]life feeds on life feeds on life[/B] but I am confused on what the real meaning is.[/QUOTE]

You don't know what 69 is? It's actually really childish and immature (to be obsessed with the number, I mean. Not the act itself). That's what makes it so weird that Tool would do it, definitely no higher numerology behind it.

[QUOTE=YDload]You don't know what 69 is? It's actually really childish and immature (to be obsessed with the number, I mean. Not the act itself). That's what makes it so weird that Tool would do it, definitely no higher numerology behind it.[/QUOTE]Yeah I know what 69 is but I thought they meant it differently.

[QUOTE=YDload]You don't know what 69 is? It's actually really childish and immature (to be obsessed with the number, I mean. Not the act itself). That's what makes it so weird that Tool would do it, definitely no higher numerology behind it.[/QUOTE]
Another shining example of Tool's brilliant sense of humor. :rolleyes:

69 has something to do with sex, not numbers :rolleyes:

/ :lol:

[QUOTE=repcak]69 has something to do with sex, not numbers :rolleyes:

/ :lol:[/QUOTE]Yes, I know 6=man 9=woman but I thought they might have meant it to mean about how they keep saying the words over and over.