I looked at his myspace, and she didn't post on his. So I don't think it's a conversation

well i mean, a conversation between him and another through her myspace?
Just ask her about it man to straighten it out

Then post it here :)

wait until she calls

you dont want to come across as too worrisome (lack of better word)

what are you trying to accomplish

I'm trying to see if I can trust her if she's worth a relationship, and whether or not I should still be going to the dance with her.

[QUOTE=Rasta Rockerstat3] "Hey there baaaabeee!!! I can't wait to see you tomorrow, going to be a good time!! Now if only we could get something to drink to make it that much better ;) "[/QUOTE]

I'd tell you not to worry about this, for the following reasons:

1. She's already said that she's obligated to you (in a sense).
2. This happened on mySpace.
3. This guy is probably a loser to begin with.
4. Maybe they're just friends or social acquaintances from school and nothing else. And if he's thinking poon, he's going to be disappointed if she is 'loyal' to you.
5. This is probably how this guy "talks." Even with the crappy emoticon.

But, there is no harm in asking her about it.

[QUOTE=Rasta Rockerstat3]I'm trying to see if I can trust her if she's worth a relationship, and whether or not I should still be going to the dance with her.[/QUOTE]
im sorry but that last one really made me laugh

[QUOTE=Jom]I'd tell you not to worry about this, for the following reasons:

1. She's already said that she's obligated to you (in a sense).
2. This happened on mySpace.
3. This guy is probably a loser to begin with.
4. Maybe they're just friends or social acquaintances from school and nothing else. And if he's thinking poon, he's going to be disappointed if she is 'loyal' to you.
5. This is probably how this guy "talks." Even with the crappy emoticon.

But, there is no harm in asking her about it.[/QUOTE]
yea Jom is prolly right, most of the lads i know talk to all the girls we know like that - babe - hunny - sexy - ugly. Prolly just m8z

Thanks Jom :)

[QUOTE=~grif~]im sorry but that last one really made me laugh[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but I hate dances, I haven't had a good time at one yet. I'll admit it does sound stupid:smash:

Thanks Jom, you're probably right...I'm just being a typical hormonal teenager.

Damn. Recently I seem to have gotten so bad at making an inital move on a girl. Like tonight, there were two girls at the bar, one of which was really hot, and I'm pretty certain was looking at me. Yet I just can't make that initial move, and don't know what to say. Once I get talking to someone I always seem to get on fine, its just the inital move I really struggle with. I just don't really know what to say without making myself look stupid. So yeah, I ended up not saying anything to the girl and they left.

I used to be going out with this girl, it ended pretty nastily with her threatening suicide. I broke it off, because, well, she was MENTAL! I couldn't help her, even though I tried. Anyways, my friend is starting to get an eye for this girl, and it worries me. It would be his first girlfriend, and she cuts herself. I really don't think it would be good for him. What should i do?

cheers :chug:

When i was in 3rd grade my dad died. Well i guess i did know what i really lost and lately i have been impacted by it more than ever. This is really hard to deal with right now. :(

[QUOTE=brood]I used to be going out with this girl, it ended pretty nastily with her threatening suicide. I broke it off, because, well, she was MENTAL! I couldn't help her, even though I tried. Anyways, my friend is starting to get an eye for this girl, and it worries me. It would be his first girlfriend, and she cuts herself. I really don't think it would be good for him. What should i do?

cheers :chug:[/QUOTE]


Tell him that she will F[B]u[/B]ck up his life. Tell him your story with her. (remembers memory of going out with a ****uped girl.

Love

woo hoo post 2000 4 this thread:cool:
[QUOTE=brood]I used to be going out with this girl, it ended pretty nastily with her threatening suicide. I broke it off, because, well, she was MENTAL! I couldn't help her, even though I tried. Anyways, my friend is starting to get an eye for this girl, and it worries me. It would be his first girlfriend, and she cuts herself. I really don't think it would be good for him. What should i do?

cheers :cheers:[/QUOTE]

Just tell him the truth?

[QUOTE=brood]I used to be going out with this girl, it ended pretty nastily with her threatening suicide. I broke it off, because, well, she was MENTAL! I couldn't help her, even though I tried. Anyways, my friend is starting to get an eye for this girl, and it worries me. It would be his first girlfriend, and she cuts herself. I really don't think it would be good for him. What should i do?

cheers :chug:[/QUOTE]
If she is still cutting her self because of you, suggest not to - and tell him that she is.
You should probably talk to her about it. Tell her to stop what she is doing to herself before she really harms herself. Tell that you do care about her as friend still and you are worried.
You're m8, if he dose like her, you should probably let him know. But if he dose to choose to regardless of her cutting herself, maybe it would cheer her up that she has this new guy in her life - might help her to get over you?

[QUOTE=brood]I used to be going out with this girl, it ended pretty nastily with her threatening suicide. I broke it off, because, well, she was MENTAL! I couldn't help her, even though I tried. Anyways, my friend is starting to get an eye for this girl, and it worries me. It would be his first girlfriend, and she cuts herself. I really don't think it would be good for him. What should i do?

cheers :chug:[/QUOTE]

i think first you should make sure she gets help for the cutting. do whatever it takes, if she wont do it herself then tell her parents, or teachers, or whatever. just do that first.

then you gotta tell your friend that this is clearly a person with a serious problem... and to get involved with someone emotionally unstable would be taking advantage of her. thats not right at all, he'd agree im sure. help him meet new girls... try to hook him up with somebody else... ya know.

[QUOTE=Destined_for]When i was in 3rd grade my dad died. Well i guess i did know what i really lost and lately i have been impacted by it more than ever. This is really hard to deal with right now. :([/QUOTE]
If you are not one to talk about things like that like i am, it can really build up on you. Knowing you're dad died at a young age dosent really impact you because you probably never really understood. But im sure now its all hitting you really hard.

My dad isnt dead, my parents are divorced and my dad is this raging alcoholic - i hardly ever saw him, i did go to him at weekends but he was never really a dad, just a father, hed drink while i was there and never talk to me - I was just there watching TV and when time to go home id go.
nearly 2 years ago i was told he was probably going to kill him self definatley with drinking. I didnt really feel anything for it but he still is my father, latley id think about it and i realise that i never really had a dad - he was there but he was just a father to me. Id get really sad about it sometimes knowing he is going to die and ive never had a father son relationship with him. I havent seen my dad in 2 years because i choose not to see him anymore. Knowing he could die any day because he drinks constantly makes me wonder if i should go see him now that im older.
When i watch this movies to do with dads and sons or something i really get pretty sad - i dont watch the movie, i relate with it - them having this great time and something that i could of had with my dad but never did because of it all. I was off my face on alcohol one night - got in a fist fight - walked off covered in blood - sat in an ally way and cried for about an hour and all i could think of is that my dad is dying because of alcohol and there i am getting pissed drunk every weekend not giving a **** about him.
I still havent seen him...

For you though, you can never see him again - and it must be hard. But there is nothing you can do about it but talk to someone to relate to it...he is gone and thats it...

Ive never actually told anyone about what i said up there..

[QUOTE=~grif~]If you are not one to talk about things like that like i am, it can really build up on you. Knowing you're dad died at a young age dosent really impact you because you probably never really understood. But im sure now its all hitting you really hard.

My dad isnt dead, my parents are divorced and my dad is this raging alcoholic - i hardly ever saw him, i did go to him at weekends but he was never really a dad, just a father, hed drink while i was there and never talk to me - I was just there watching TV and when time to go home id go.
nearly 2 years ago i was told he was probably going to kill him self definatley with drinking. I didnt really feel anything for it but he still is my father, latley id think about it and i realise that i never really had a dad - he was there but he was just a father to me. Id get really sad about it sometimes knowing he is going to die and ive never had a father son relationship with him. I havent seen my dad in 2 years because i choose not to see him anymore. Knowing he could die any day because he drinks constantly makes me wonder if i should go see him now that im older.
When i watch this movies to do with dads and sons or something i really get pretty sad - i dont watch the movie, i relate with it - them having this great time and something that i could of had with my dad but never did because of it all. I was off my face on alcohol one night - got in a fist fight - walked off covered in blood - sat in an ally way and cried for about an hour and all i could think of is that my dad is dying because of alcohol and there i am getting pissed drunk every weekend not giving a **** about him.
I still havent seen him...

For you though, you can never see him again - and it must be hard. But there is nothing you can do about it but talk to someone to relate to it...he is gone and thats it...

Ive never actually told anyone about what i said up there..[/QUOTE]

Well im sorry about your father. The thing is with mine, he was a great dad and i never got to really get to know him, which makes me incredibly sad. I miss him so much. I remember a few years ago, i would randomly cry in places that would remind me of my dad. It is so hard not to have him here/ even though i do have a step dad. I just never had a real father influence in my life.

[QUOTE=Destined_for]Well im sorry about your father. The thing is with mine, he was a great dad and i never got to really get to know him, which makes me incredibly sad. I miss him so much. I remember a few years ago, i would randomly cry in places that would remind me of my dad. It is so hard not to have him here/ even though i do have a step dad. I just never had a real father influence in my life.[/QUOTE]
I can see what you mean, and im sorry for you're loss but if you just get it out - realise he is gone and not coming back, you will get over the fact that you will never get to see him again or have that dad figure in you're life.

Anyone can be a father, takes someone special to be a dad - and in you're case he is already gone.

Reading about all these father stories really makes me cherish my time with him. I couldn't ask for a better dad but like most people, I selfishly don't cherish it as much as I should. :(

I know going up to him and hugging him and saying "I love you" would mean the world to him (as cheesy as it sounds) but I don't do it... i dont know why

[QUOTE=~grif~]I can see what you mean, and im sorry for you're loss but if you just get it out - realise he is gone and not coming back, you will get over the fact that you will never get to see him again or have that dad figure in you're life.

Anyone can be a father, takes someone special to be a dad - and in you're case he is already gone.[/QUOTE]


Ya. but im dealing with it. Today im not doing so well with my life. Its been a hard day, i have been dealing with a lot of problems lately.

[QUOTE=Destined_for]Ya. but im dealing with it. Today im not doing so well with my life. Its been a hard day, i have been dealing with a lot of problems lately.[/QUOTE]
Piling on problems on you thinking about you're dad latley will get you real down, as it has.
Maybe you should put you're dads death aside for a while. Just dont think about it or try not to. Or put the other problems aside...take one at a time i suggest.

Relax.

[QUOTE=~grif~]Piling on problems on you thinking about you're dad latley will get you real down, as it has.
Maybe you should put you're dads death aside for a while. Just dont think about it or try not to. Or put the other problems aside...take one at a time i suggest.

Relax.[/QUOTE]


Ya. Relax. Thats always been hard for me to do for anything. Im always worrying or something. But lately i have found out that i dont need other people to be happy. it comes from inside my self.

thats deep, just take a break from whatever your doing, listen to some music, or go for a jog and try to clear you r head

[QUOTE=Destined_for]Ya. Relax. Thats always been hard for me to do for anything. Im always worrying or something. But lately i have found out that i dont need other people to be happy. it comes from inside my self.[/QUOTE]
I donno if you smoke or anything. Not that it has anything to do with this...

but going to somewhere beutiful sitting there and breathing it all in, a beautiful view or anything.
you dont even have to go alone, just go with a friend or girlfriend or whatever - nothign has to be said - just lie there and look around you, relax, look at the sky or sit out at night and stare at the stars

take a break - it clears you're mind, gives you time to think about things.

i live on the coast so i usually sit on the side of a cliff or by the beach or something...dono about you.

[QUOTE=~grif~]I donno if you smoke or anything. Not that it has anything to do with this...

but going to somewhere beutiful sitting there and breathing it all in, a beautiful view or anything.
you dont even have to go alone, just go with a friend or girlfriend or whatever - nothign has to be said - just lie there and look around you, relax, look at the sky or sit out at night and stare at the stars

take a break - it clears you're mind, gives you time to think about things.

i live on the coast so i usually sit on the side of a cliff or by the beach or something...dono about you.[/QUOTE]


I live by lots of mountains. I would like to get up there more and take a walk and listne to some cold chilling black metal but i havent had the chance. I used to smoke but i stopped. I should go with my gf though. I would love that.

This is a conversation I had with a m8 through email tonight. He has love problems, he is trying to find love, he is good with women and stuff, but latley he is getting nowhere - he is stoned, he is sad and feels rejected.
what do ye think?
[quote=John Says]
What is love? Love is when one person knows all of your secrets... your deepest, darkest, most dreadful secrets of which no one else in the world knows... and yet in the end, that one person does not think any less of you; even if the rest of the world does. Someone to make my faults redundant, transparent. Not to find the person I can spend the rest of my life with, but, to spend it the person who I can’t live without. I want only that someone will need me. To bring the recurring desires of their mind to me, every time they emerge. They cannot shock me, because I’ll love them! Bring me your confusion, your fear, your craving, your anxiety, your inability to love the world, your hesitation to serve, your jealousy, your addiction, your insecurities’, all the deficiencies that defy your sanity. The most terrible poverty is loneliness, and the emotion of being unloved and most of us feel it everyday. Right now. Love is when you render yourself vulnerable and still want her, it's when she ignores you and you still want her, it's when she loves another prick but you still smile and say I'm happy for you, when all you really do is scream. Love ****ing burns, and the stronger the flame the deeper the scar. Its easy to get pissed off when you realize everyone you love will eventually reject you and die. So what is happiness? I can’t believe simply that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have. It can’t be that simple. I believe this because I’m greedy, a prick, a selfish self pitying dickhead. Maybe there is only one true happiness in this life, to love and be loved. Mutually. Ironically I’ve come to the conclusion that the person we love and the person who loves us is very rarely going to be the same person. I mean, we can’t all be so lucky, Maybe unhappiness can simply be defined as not knowing who we want to love but nearly killing ourselves to trying to find out. However, Man can only endure a certain degree of unhappiness; what is beyond that either annihilates him or passes by him and leaves him apathetic, sullen, and again, a selfish self pitying dickhead. [/quote]
[quote=Kevin says]
Talking about love as if to say its something so complicated when really it can be just so easy.
Some people define love as being this one person, one in a million, you're soul mate that you can talk to for the rest of you're life without having the knowing fact that it will end because you love that one person so much that they love you just as much back.
The greeks had a definition of love, or the meaning of it - it goes something like, you are born together as one, you are sepereated and all you're life you have this emptyness in you that is this one you are missing, and when you find it you feel whole again, you have found you're "soul mate" - you're love...
I dont believe that man, there can be so many people you can fall in love with, one greater then the next, you just havent met them yet. There are always more then one.
You talk about it as if it will never happen, when patience will take its toll and you will find that girl you arent even thinking about right now. [/quote]
[quote=John says]
I dunno, I'm tired, stoned and all i want is to curl up to someone and sleep. I agree with you, love isnt a noun, its a verb. But I mean, there's no guarantee that we’ll live happily ever after, no assurance that everything will be alright, no promise its going to turn out nice and dandy! All thats left is this scary unknown. I mean, as i was asking before Why does the rest of the world put up with the hypocrisy, the need to put a happy face on sorrow, the need to keep on keeping on? I don’t know the answer; I know only that I can’t. I don't want any more bull****, I don't want any more of this try, try again stuff. I just want out of this train of thinking and this way of living. I’ve had it. I am so tired. I am 18 and I am already exhausted of hearing all this ****! [/quote]
[quote=Kevin says]
If we didnt put a happy face on sorrow, if we didnt keep on keeping on, we'd get nowhere. We'd finish with this first love and frown about it for the rest of our days because we didnt keep on, keeping on.
Getting over it, moving on and finding someone else is what we all do because we know if we kept up with the one before we'd never break away from the fact shes always on you're mind - so we find someone new, someone better, a better lover a better friend just to block out that one before. For better or for worse.
If you wanna find someone to love, to hold and to wake up beside every morning, ya gotta go beyond the people we know because it will end up in one big circle.
Plenty of fish in the sea they say. Women arent fish though..
[/quote]
[quote=John says]
Some of them smell like them...
What your saying, keep going, I mean, everytime were rejected it leaves a scar and no matter how much happiness we find we always have the memory that for that immediate instant, some girls eyes have told you that you simply not good enough. Your inadequate. Loving is a feeling that brings both joy and pain to my heart. Joy from being with someone, being filled with an emotion so deep and tender that no other feeling can compare. Pain from knowing that I'm so in love, that I'm more vulnerable than I've ever been. I mean your life in someones hands. People are afraid of themselves, of their own reality; their feelings most of all. People talk about how great love is, but that's bull****. Love hurts. Feelings are disturbing. People are taught that pain is evil and dangerous. How can they deal with love if they're afraid to feel? Pain is meant to wake us up. People try to hide their pain. But they're wrong. Pain is something to carry!
You feel your strength in the experience of pain. It's all in how you carry it. That's what matters. Pain is a feeling. Your feelings are a part of you. Your own reality. If you feel ashamed of them, and hide them, you're letting society destroy your reality. You should stand up for your right to feel your pain. To feel loved or unloved.
I'm way too stoned for this...
[/quote]
[quote=Kevin says]
feel love and feel that pain. We are all human, men feel pain and have that dreadful feeling of being let down rejected or unloved surprisingly. Its nature as you said one time, that we have to be the alpha male - to be the stronger one and to not look weak - but when it comes to something like love, we crumble like a biscuit. We may not show it but its there - women may not realise it but its there.
To have scars that noone is to see is something we hold close to ourselves and rather not share.
Knowing we have scars from past lovers or rejection from someone you feel so great about and to share it with someone we would not.
Unless we are pissed drunk, off our face...or stoned.[/quote]
[quote=John says]
If this life was a drama, a play, a stage proformance...i'd have walked out an hour ago. Guess it's the whole half empty half full dispute. Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. But anyway....****, i can't remember what my point was, I always ****ing do this!! oh ye, what happens when you fight for love? My mind tells me to give up, but my heart won't let me. There's no guarantee the ends will justify the means.[/quote]
[quote=Kevin says]
always go with you're heart.
Because no matter how terrible, or great it turns out - you know you did what was in you're heart, what you wanted. Not because you were told not to, or told you couldnt, but because it was in you're heart - that made you take that decision, act on it - and see the outcome. Knowing that you tried rather then not trying, and wondering what if.
Sounds all too cliché - but its always worth a shot.
Walking out on life, and you'll miss the big fight, the drama and the twists, the romantic scene and the big finish. Nothing comes to you on a plate laced with gold - working at something you want in you're heart, will prove you to be the better, bigger man.
Its 4:30am.
im going for a smoke.
[/quote]

So Julia just left my house. When she first got here we were at the computer and I craftily worked my way to her myspace. I was like "hey look at this comment, who is Nathan?" She said "Oh he's funny, he's one of my good friends" So I decided it wasn't a big deal. Shortly after we moved to my basement, Nathan called her. She didn't answer and I asked why she didn't pick up. She said cause I'm with you. So again I thought, alright this seems good. Then her friend, thats on her volleyball team, called her. Julia had a volleyball tournament all day, and she visited Nathan because he lives out by where the tournament was. I could hear her friend talking, and she said did you do anything with that guy. And then Julia said, "are you drunk, I dont know what youre talking about" And then she looked at me, and I was asked, "did you do anything with him." Then she said, "no i didn't do anything with him." I want to believe her, but past experiences with other girls makes me skeptical. I'm going to talk to her more online about it soon. I would have talked to her face to face about it, but she had to pick her sister up and take her home. If anyone wants, I'll tell you how our next conversation goes.

[QUOTE=~grif~]It would give you time to relax, dont listen to music while you are up there - just listen to whats around you, pick a spot and sit.
Dont talk - and when you want to - just let it out.

You will feel better, and with you're girlfriend, im sure shed be there to understand.

best of luck anyway..[/QUOTE]


Thanks :thumb:

Hi guys.

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I missed a lot today...errands and cleaning took up my time...but advice is flowing freely...so...

Hi guys.

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[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Hi guys.

*damn I say*

I missed a lot today...errands and cleaning took up my time...but advice is flowing freely...so...

Hi guys.

btw, you guys rock.
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Hey Kimmie. Hows it going?

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Hi guys.

*damn I say*

I missed a lot today...errands and cleaning took up my time...but advice is flowing freely...so...

Hi guys.

btw, you guys rock.
:)[/QUOTE]
Oh you:)

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