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YearsOfOppression 01-11-2006 04:45 AM

OK maybe it suits the band but it is very annoying. Do you think that if it was just Serj singing and Daron focused more on guitar that they would be better? Daron should probably only do backup vocals like he did on ST and Toxicity.

YearsOfOppression 01-11-2006 04:50 AM

Yeh i guess so.

Spiritofmosa 01-11-2006 05:23 AM

i gotta pick up toxcity one day

Spiritofmosa 01-11-2006 06:56 AM

i am watching their vid at rock ring 2002.. daaron makes me laugh

Blank 01-11-2006 01:18 PM

Needles is an awesome songs.

But peephole pwns it :smash:

Mambuto_O'Mally 01-11-2006 01:34 PM

[QUOTE=Swim]No, Serj can get annoying on his own after a while. Daron isn't really very good on guitar anyway, so I don't think it would make much of a difference, at least it gives them a fuller band sound.[/QUOTE]
Thats because on Toxicity, he really only used the one voice, unlike on the s/t when he had many cool voices.

Blank 01-11-2006 01:40 PM

I much prefer Daron in the background doing metal screams :chug:

Kyle 01-11-2006 02:03 PM

I prefer Serj's metal screams on the self titled. But I love how their voices harmonise on some songs, On Lost in Hollywood it works amazingly.

Blank 01-11-2006 02:53 PM

Yeah that is pretty cool.
They sound great in soilder side to :chug:

MrJack 01-11-2006 03:33 PM

Daron just needs to stop. A perfect example of when and how he should sing is STA. You can hear him, but he doesn't(and shouldn't) overshadow Serj.

He cannot hold a song on his own. Sure, you want to do a ballad every CD, fine. But otherwise, STFU. This is exactly the reason why I can only tolerate 5/12 songs on Hypnotize. Ah well.

Moses 01-11-2006 03:37 PM

^^^Exactly how I feel.

PepsiMetal 01-11-2006 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=MrJack]Daron just needs to stop. A perfect example of when and how he should sing is STA. You can hear him, but he doesn't(and shouldn't) overshadow Serj.

He cannot hold a song on his own. Sure, you want to do a ballad every CD, fine. But otherwise, STFU. This is exactly the reason why I can only tolerate 5/12 songs on Hypnotize. Ah well.[/QUOTE]

Yea his voice is too similar to green day, simple plan, good charlotte, etc. Heck, the guy from good charlotte has better voice than daron. Daron has that "singing through the nose" voice. :(

mbrinton138 01-11-2006 04:12 PM

I dissagree, Daron is really talented. Besides which, he has been writing all the songs you people love and you seem to be hating him for wanted to display the acual emotion he put into them. Sure, we'd all like more Serj, but there isnt a song where Serj doesnt sing, too.

PepsiMetal 01-11-2006 04:19 PM

Nobody said he isn't talented. He writes some great lyrics and guitar riffs, but his vocals just aren't suited for soad. Especially when there is a guy like serj who didn't sing as much even though it would make songs sound alot better.

mbrinton138 01-11-2006 04:24 PM

your slowly hurting Darons feels, you know...

(Daron IS in system, he IS singing, he IS suited for them.)

MrJack 01-11-2006 05:00 PM

I do agree, he is talented. But just because you write the lyrics, doesn't mean they sound best when they are coming from you. "Back in the day", Daron was known as the guy with the wierd on stage antics, and the guy that did most of the talking inbetween songs that got everyone hyped.

Fast forward to before the Mezmorize release. People start asking him about the lyrics, and in seemingly every interview, he makes it clear that he has wrote most of SOAD material. Okay, people now know he writes and does all that other stuff I mention. Now whats the reason for forcing Serj to change his tone just to accomodate Daron, which overall sounds rather bad compared to the older songs when he was "background"? Streamline is a good song that demonstrates what im talking about.

Mambuto_O'Mally 01-11-2006 05:00 PM

You know there is a point where obsession messes people's reality up(mbrinton138). I think this guy has passed that point. I mean they have some amazing songs with Daron singing but he shouldn't sing on every song. I can see about a 1/4 or 1/3 but more that is too much.

Blank 01-11-2006 05:08 PM

Wooo.The song that made me want more Serj is lonely day.
Daron makes it sound so pop emo :amaze:

mbrinton138 01-11-2006 11:14 PM

Ahhh, if there is anysong that only Daron should sing, its Lonely Day. That one seems really personal. System of a Down is a band that likes to evolve...this form of evolution involves Daron on vocals...The next album will probubly be back to "normal".

And just cause Daron is my biggest inspiration doesnt mean I am obsessed. Hes showing that the guitar player can be more involved in the band than just sticking to the guitar. Yay Daron.

Blank 01-11-2006 11:19 PM

But Serj is the singer.
There have been countless bands were the drummer/bassist/guitarist wrote songs and didn't sing them.If I recall soads lineup is
Serj Tankian-Vocals
Daron Malakian-Guitar
Shavo Odadjian-Bass
John Dolmayan-Drums
And it should stay that way :smash:

DWJK 01-12-2006 05:15 AM

Its a subjective call. No ones ever going to be right

Everyone who likes Darons voice is going to say he's suited for SOAD

Everyone who hates his whinyness is going to say he should just play guitar because that's his role

This dicussion is endless

Anthem 01-12-2006 01:26 PM

Agreed.

mbrinton138 01-12-2006 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=RyanTheDrummer]But Serj is the singer.
There have been countless bands were the drummer/bassist/guitarist wrote songs and didn't sing them.If I recall soads lineup is
Serj Tankian-Vocals
Daron Malakian-Guitar
Shavo Odadjian-Bass
John Dolmayan-Drums
And it should stay that way :smash:[/QUOTE]

acually its:
Daron Malakian - Guitars/Vocals
Serj Tankian - Vocals/Keyboards
Shavo Odadjian - Bass
John Dolmayan - Drums

see see, Daron is first...I shat you not, look in the jacket!

But personally, the only signer who truely fits with SOAD is P.Diddy,

Blank 01-12-2006 04:53 PM

>_<
Guitarist get enough credit.
I prefer Shavos ball squeezing high pitched voice :lol:

Slipknotz_M 01-12-2006 04:55 PM

does anybody miss old classic System like Spiders?

Blank 01-12-2006 05:01 PM

Yes.

mbrinton138 01-12-2006 05:11 PM

No. If I wanted to hear Spiders I can, it didnt go anywhere...its down the hall in my room.

MrJack 01-12-2006 08:25 PM

It's rather hard to miss Spiders when I play it everyday. :cool:

Now that we are all over the Daron thing(he's good, he writes, he sings, he needs to grow that beard back!), lets look towards the future. They should be heading out to tour agian. What are some MUST hear songs you guys....well....must hear :confused: Me? Well......

Spiders
Forest(my favorite song)
Streamline(my second favorite song)
Thetawaves(I wish)
Chic'N'Stu(I wish...but they will probrably never play this agian :angry: )
Radio/Video(I wish agian)
cuBERT(Im still wishing)
Highway Song(^^^^)
Dreaming
Solider Side Outro
Tentative

Basically, I would like to hear what they never/hardly play because its all so good. And some new stuff of course.

MetallifuX 01-12-2006 09:11 PM

serj plays the guitar in some live songs........

Blank 01-13-2006 12:05 AM

Live songs I want to hear....
Tentative (beautiful)
Peephole
Sugar
Spiders
Attack
Revenga
Toxicity
.....All of there songs :p


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