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Forest_Fire 04-07-2005 04:17 PM

Jello performed naked one time at a concert with the clash... so I guess they did meet at least once

Brain Toad 04-07-2005 05:07 PM

Jello profile bumped. I think they met, if not, they should've. But I think Jello looked up more to The Ramones than to The Clash.

Silvermedalmafia 04-07-2005 05:31 PM

[QUOTE=guns_of_brixton]Do you guys consider Joe to be the best songwriter of all time? Because I certainly do. The only others that are even close (for me) are Neil Young and Jello Biafra.[/QUOTE]
Tom Waits>Neil Young, Lou Reed>the rest. The top of the rest are really close; Strummer, ray Charles, Jim Morrison etc.

Coma_Girl 04-07-2005 05:31 PM

yeah, I like Joe more.I started my photography project all over again cause I decided to change the subject and to make it in memory of Joe Strummer.Now I don't know what to call it...ideas?suggestions?

sketchyjoe 04-07-2005 05:33 PM

Death or Glory? London Calling? Combat Rock? London's Burning? Police and Thieves?

Just pick a song or album title you like.

sketchyjoe 04-07-2005 05:34 PM

[QUOTE=Silvermedalmafia]Tom Waits>Neil Young, Lou Reed>the rest. The top of the rest are really close; Strummer, ray Charles, Jim Morrison etc.[/QUOTE]
Tom Waits is awesome.

Coma_Girl 04-07-2005 05:48 PM

[QUOTE=sketchyjoe]

Just pick a song or album title you like.[/QUOTE]
I like them ALL!

Coma_Girl 04-07-2005 05:50 PM

[QUOTE=White Riot!]Do you think strummer was a one off for the universe or will he re-incarnate in another form?[/QUOTE]
that's a good question... :eek: i dont know

sketchyjoe 04-07-2005 06:07 PM

[QUOTE=Coma_Girl]I like them ALL![/QUOTE]
Pull one out of a hat. You want one that summarises his life. Death or Glory would be good for that.

Coma_Girl 04-07-2005 06:10 PM

sketchy, i hate the way you're always right about everything.


thanks.death or glory is a good idea.

sketchyjoe 04-07-2005 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=Coma_Girl]sketchy, i hate the way you're always right about everything.


thanks.death or glory is a good idea.[/QUOTE]
A lot of people hate me because of that.

Silvermedalmafia 04-07-2005 06:58 PM

And I love you for being my loveslave.

Forest_Fire 04-07-2005 07:02 PM

I hate each and every one of you.



I just got back from the bookstore. They had two Clash books there, one was "The return of the last gang in town", and the other was "Joe Strummer and friends". Both were over $20 so I couldn't get either

Coma_Girl 04-07-2005 07:10 PM

i want to read the return of the last gang in town.


Joe Strummer & friends...what a gay title:lol:

TheNowhereman42 04-07-2005 07:16 PM

being gay is punx

sup kids?

Coma_Girl 04-07-2005 07:23 PM

Meantime, We're cutting our hands
On the ke-bab shop
In the streets of fear
Forgetting all those best
Tai-kwon-do moves
On a barrel of beer
We trying to get a signal
Through from Ragga F.M
Do the D.T.I
Bust CNN?

guns_of_brixton 04-07-2005 08:36 PM

Joe and Jello did meet. I SWEAR I once saw a pic with Jello, and the Clash. I forgot where though :confused:.

sketchyjoe 04-07-2005 09:09 PM

The Clash definitely knew of DK. There's an interview in which the interviewer asks Joe if there's such a thing as an american punk band and he says no but Mick says "What about the Dead Kennedys?"

CombatRock 04-07-2005 09:10 PM

you better find it!


plz :thumb:

guns_of_brixton 04-07-2005 09:30 PM

Yea, I want to read that.

I also read an interview where the interview asked Joe if he liked any straight edge bands. Joe said something about not being sure what straiht edge was because "In England we like our beer and cigarettes!"

EDIT: 2000th post in the thread! :chug:

Coma_Girl 04-07-2005 09:48 PM

:lol:Joe and straight edge in the same sentence.never thought i'd hear that.

we're officially clash whores.I'm still the queen.

xxGumbyxx 04-07-2005 09:49 PM

I wanna hear some 101'ers stuff, but it's been super hard to find. So far all I've heard is Surf City and that 15 second clip in Westway.

guns_of_brixton 04-07-2005 09:51 PM

The 15 second clip in Westway sounds awesome :cool:.

And I'm the king of Clash whores :).

Coma_Girl 04-07-2005 10:18 PM

i wrote a super long post and my computer ****ed up.lame :upset:

i have a couple 101ers songs somehwere on my computer so i can send them to you when i'll find them.I also got the whole Eartquake Weather album on slsk.Havent listened to it yet.

I've read a story of a girl who wrote a good review of EW back in the days and when Joe went to LA, he called her to go eat something with how.That's just how nice he was.And this cute story of a guy who was drinking behind the venue with his friends after a show and Joe came out and asked them if they wanted to play with his telecaster, so they played guitar and after, Joe asked them if they wanted to go to a party with him but they had a bus to catch...years later, the same guy was in a band opening for Joe cause Joe inspired him to start a band.How cute.

Coma_Girl 04-07-2005 11:10 PM

:lol:i've found my first post in this forum ever.december 1st 2004.

[I]I understand that some ppl now think the clash are not punk.But back in 1977, they were.And anyway, they were writing political songs.And I respect them a lot cuz they included other styles in their music, and they didn't give a **** what ppl were saying about them."Ohhh they're not punk anymore"'...they must have heard it wayyyyy too often.

The Clash is my favorite band.
No matter is they're punk or not.

Just look at how they never wanted to reform the clash even for all the money...i think it deserves a lot of respect.any band would have decided to take the money and to forget their convictions.but not the clash.[/I]

:lol: i was already a clash whore.

EDIT:this is andy clash thread police speaking: i wont be there tomorrow clash city rockers, but dont spam this thread too much heh :p

White Riot! 04-08-2005 03:17 AM

I dont care what anyones says that the clash arent punk , they are just idiots.


Joe Strummer practically invented the other (sensible) side of punk (the opposite of the sex pistols pure wank off music)


Every clash song is punk in some way, there is no who ever lived who is more punk than strummer. no one will ever ever meet the bar joe strummer and the clash set not only for punk but music in general.

The Clash did not "sell out" because they didnt change their music they just added different styles to their palette of greatness. The Clash never changed labels and fired their gay manager who try to screw with their sound on Give Em Enough Rope

The Clash released london calling cheaper than a double LP and it was selling for the price a single LP , in doing so they lost royalties.
The Clash also released Sandinista! , a triple LP for the price of a single LP , in doing so they never got paid for their work on that album.

name one band who can match that!?

The bands so called "hits" are dubious. Train in Vain is a mo-town number NOT a POP song and it wasnt even put on cover. Rock The Casbah is not even remotely close to being a 'POP' song because its not a simple melody and the lyrics arent "POP".
Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? is a three chord pop song. okay! thats not bad to have one pop song out of your whole body of work. The ramones did alot of stuff that can be considered POP styled but they dont cop flak about it do they?

In Summing up my Rant I say the famous words of Joe

"I will always believe in punk rock , because it is about making something for yourself" (not something for others in a rigid gay elistist punk form).



The Clash beleived in what they were doing , and they stood for something important.

cheeser_1 04-08-2005 06:06 AM

yeah, i hate when things are gay [i]and[/i] elitist. :rolleyes:

White Riot! 04-08-2005 08:36 AM

dont look in the mirror then

Coma_Girl 04-08-2005 09:10 AM

oh well i didnt want to start a debate about if their punk or not, but i agree with you white riot.

Joe Strummer always represented punk [I]for me[/I].but again, punk is different for everybody so someone else might think he wasnt punk at all.who cares.

sketchyjoe 04-08-2005 09:13 AM

[QUOTE=White Riot!]The Clash never changed labels and fired their gay manager who try to screw with their sound on Give Em Enough Rope.[/QUOTE]
No.


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