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deathscreamingsheep 01-11-2006 01:48 PM

I haven't really critted anyone this week I don't think. I find I really do have to spend quite a bit of time reading the song before coming up with something actually useful to say- unfortunately at the moment time is what I don't have especially as I'm starting to compose music for my first few prog opera songs on a cheap rubbish microphone and Audacity.

Heh... my friendly co-founder of my band has given us the hardest task of all lyrically and musically. Writing a love song or a song about a girl (we're a blokes band) without being too cliché.

EDIT: 2000th reply

Liebensaft 01-11-2006 03:58 PM

To get a feel for what's legal in these parts, and how uptight it is, I'd like to ask a question before I post anything else.

I remember reading somewhere that jokes in a song were ok, but lyrics of a humorous nature were prohibited. How true is this, and to what extent does it apply?

Reading through some of the songs on here, I've found that a lot are comprised of very generic "I hate the world, go away!" lyrics. Would it be breaking any kind of rule to make fun of that fact?

Thanks in advance.

-Joe

Nightvision 01-11-2006 04:01 PM

Hmmm - I would be wary of writing a song making fun of it, as joke songs are nigh on impossible to write well. However, ribbing people who write such songs is generally cool, provided nothing gets too heavy. :)

Liebensaft 01-11-2006 04:02 PM

[QUOTE=Jason101]Hmmm - I would be wary of writing a song making fun of it, as joke songs are nigh on impossible to write well. However, ribbing people who write such songs is generally cool, provided nothing gets too heavy. :)[/QUOTE]
I feel I could pull off a song parodying the lack of creativity pretty well. And of course I'd avoid getting too carried away.:thumb:

Nightvision 01-11-2006 04:05 PM

Well, there's no rule against them as such, but Subtle's not a huge fan of joke songs (and I can't say I blame him, some of the cack that I've seen), and unless it's pretty special, there's a fairly good chance of a lockdown.
(Plus mucho flaming from the regs- everyone loves flaming an unfunny joke song... it's just one of those things. :))

Liebensaft 01-11-2006 04:08 PM

I'm not necessarily shooting for funny. A classy parody or satire of some sort is what I'm looking for.

A_Perfect_Sonnet 01-11-2006 04:21 PM

See my Guide For Newbies thread for a proper satire.

DeadReligion 01-11-2006 04:24 PM

Heh, I used to write joke joke songs. Now I don't. Though, poking fun at bad things is fine, do it in a non-blatant way. Good luck.

Nightvision 01-11-2006 04:32 PM

Hey DR - want me to crit your newest song or the one you posted yesterday?

DeadReligion 01-11-2006 04:56 PM

The new version "1000 Memories Of 1000 Bloodied Hearts" (The reason I gave you the title, is that it changed, slightly, in the addition of the extra 1000). Thanks.

Nightvision 01-11-2006 05:02 PM

Roger. :)

ITRIEDVOODOOONCE 01-11-2006 05:18 PM

Beaker! I Missed You Buddy!!!!!

Nightvision 01-11-2006 05:42 PM

\o/ -yeah, I had about 12 people ask why I changed it, so I changed it back.

holy_roller99 01-11-2006 11:26 PM

Please help me improve
 
i have started about 4 months ago on writing and posting my songs taht i have written. to anybody who has read my stuff, i just want to know how i can improve my writing and if in need of an example just ask and i will repost my False Hero's song for anyone to crit and look at.

TojesDolan 01-14-2006 05:25 PM

[QUOTE=Jason101]\o/ -yeah, I had about 12 people ask why I changed it, so I changed it back.[/QUOTE]
That's like your signature.

But changing it would have been healthy.

Anyhow, slow songwriting. Very slow.

morrissey 01-15-2006 02:32 AM

[QUOTE=Herbert_da_fish]It's called "The Ode Less Travelled". I was listening to him being interviewed on the radio and he had such a passion for writing I decided to get the book. It's quite a complicated read, using all the correct literary terms, but I've found it's increasing my knowledge of all the aspecs to poetry. It's got the different types of metres, rhyme, form, diction and poets of today. I just have a feeling that since this forum is as big on critting poetry as it is writing it, it would prove extremely useful for any writer. It let's you see into the more technical aspects of poetry, starting from the basics and reaching to much higher levels of understanding. The majority of people here I feel would benefit from reading it.[/QUOTE]
As a pointless aside, I was just reading up on Stephen Fry the other night, and I honestly had no idea he was gay. :amaze:

Unrelated, I wish I could speak like Stephen Fry.

FVG27 01-15-2006 04:16 AM

[QUOTE=morrissey]As a pointless aside, I was just reading up on Stephen Fry the other night, and I honestly had no idea he was gay. :amaze:

Unrelated, I wish I could speak like Stephen Fry.[/QUOTE]
He's gay? I had no idea....

I think everyone would like to speak like Stephen Fry :smoke:

drumass04 01-15-2006 11:14 AM

Hi everyone,

I'm going through a bit of a bad spell at the moment, lot's going on in life. Hence not posting in here recently. I'll be back within the next few days/week.

Keep on writing.
Peace.

Tim

TojesDolan 01-16-2006 11:19 AM

Bad, bad times.

No writing whatsoever, but I discovered the joy of critiquing and posting songs, so I'll just likely write mushy garbage.

Or amazing stuff.

deathscreamingsheep 01-16-2006 02:15 PM

Just got my copy of "An Ode Less Travelled". So far I've found it can be hard work, but it's very comprehensive and it explains things well.

FVG27 01-16-2006 02:20 PM

[QUOTE=deathscreamingsheep]Just got my copy of "An Ode Less Travelled". So far I've found it can be hard work, but it's very comprehensive and it explains things well.[/QUOTE]
:) awesome. I agree... it's extremely hard work. But he does go through it well, it's just a matter of sticking with it.

ATC 01-17-2006 12:02 AM

I finally got some short fiction work done. I've been extremely lazy about fiction in a few months which is mildly scary since Creative writing's what I'm at uni for and I'm unmotivated about that whole side of things. Give it a read sometime. Hopefully, I can turn this into a larger work.

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11139329&postcount=31[/url]

deathscreamingsheep 01-18-2006 11:55 AM

Haven't managed to give it a proper look ATC, but it seems pretty good.

DeadReligion 01-18-2006 02:13 PM

Hey, what happened to the "Lyric Game Fing"?

A_Perfect_Sonnet 01-18-2006 03:35 PM

We let it die because it sucks.

DeadReligion 01-19-2006 04:47 PM

Hmm, well, I thought it was cool.

metaliq 01-19-2006 10:36 PM

I wrote a rap today and recorded it.

My friend is making a beat GarageBand on his mac.

Hawt....




im so sick
ill lay down this phat beat
and make yo lip
take a sip
from my knuckles, foo'
dont mess wif me
I ares coo'
coolers than you
cuz you know how I do
I suckapunch you in yo' shoe
just the sole, but it makes a hole
so big your foot falls through

MIDWEST, REP'SENT!

DeadReligion 01-19-2006 10:43 PM

Lol. That was...semi-amusing.

A_Perfect_Sonnet 01-20-2006 02:44 AM

I really like Say Anything...

deathscreamingsheep 01-20-2006 02:47 PM

Heh... on the subject of rap a mate of mine recorded two of Shakespeare's Sonnets over a garage beat. It wasn't badly done: though it was kinda hilarious hearing some big blinged up guy go "Yo, yo, whaddup... Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediments..." I wish I still had the recording but he moved away and I lost my copy.

Hey, in my English class I just read [I]Kubla Khan by Samuel Taylor Coleridge[/I].

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome decree :
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea.

So twice five miles of fertile ground
With walls and towers were girdled round :
And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills,
Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree ;
And here were forests ancient as the hills,
Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.
But oh ! that deep romantic chasm which slanted
Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover !
A savage place ! as holy and enchanted
As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted
By woman wailing for her demon-lover !
And from this chasm, with ceaseless turmoil seething,
As if this earth in fast thick pants were breathing,
A mighty fountain momently was forced :
Amid whose swift half-intermitted burst
Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding hail,
Or chaffy grain beneath the thresher's flail :
And 'mid these dancing rocks at once and ever
It flung up momently the sacred river.
Five miles meandering with a mazy motion
Through wood and dale the sacred river ran,
Then reached the caverns measureless to man,
And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean :
And 'mid this tumult Kubla heard from far
Ancestral voices prophesying war !


The shadow of the dome of pleasure
Floated midway on the waves ;
Where was heard the mingled measure
From the fountain and the caves.
It was a miracle of rare device,
A sunny pleasure-dome with caves of ice !

A damsel with a dulcimer
In a vision once I saw :
It was an Abyssinian maid,
And on her dulcimer she played,
Singing of Mount Abora.
Could I revive within me
Her symphony and song,
To such a deep delight 'twould win me,
That with music loud and long,
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome ! those caves of ice !
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware ! Beware !
His flashing eyes, his floating hair !
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of Paradise.

It's still debated what the hell it means, but it's a pretty darn good poem.


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