[QUOTE=MAthiAS]OSI? What?

They need to bring Kevin Moore back, and Portnoy and Petrucci need to regrow their hair. Maybe hanging with Mustaine all summer will make them cool again...

For the Labrie haters... who would you bring in to replace him? Stratovarius' singer?[/QUOTE]

Last Tribe's singer. I'll upload tracks if anyone needs a sample, since I don't believe they are quite well-known. But he'd be my pick. He's got all the power of Labrie but a more pleasent tone and much better breath support, power, and intonation. I bet on quiet songs he doesn't shiver the note all to cheezy hell like LaBrie does.

Feh, sorry. I sound like such a DT hater now. :( But anyway, yeah, Last Tribe's singer would be my pick. He's the only power metal vocalist with a real, true voice that I've heard.

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Maybe hanging with Mustaine all summer will make them cool again...[/QUOTE]
is this implying Mustaine's cool? :p

[QUOTE=slappindabass]Overall, I can see what you're saying. The Dream Theater camp is going to be pretty static for the next few years. There was some tiny variations on "Octavarium", such as "Never Enough", but other than that they're just repeating themselves. Although it's a good and enjoyable album, one of my favorites they've released, one think I've noticed is the blandness of the solos. They've become somewhat predictable and far less memorable than solos such as the one for "Lines in the Sand" or "Fatal Tragedy", or "Stream of Consciousness", or even "Metropolis pt 1".

If you guys pay attention, Dream Theater has been an episode type band. They had Metropolis, then they made Metropolis pt. 2. The new "episode" thing is "The Glass Prison/This Dying Soul/The Root of All Evil" series. Whereas I've liked all 3 songs, they need to do something more epic. I don't give a **** about alcoholics. They really need to rekindle some of those old candles, get back on the epic side of things.[/QUOTE]

I really liked The Glass Prison "series" of songs...they are some of my favorite DT songs. I think the band put a LOT more effort into these than some of their other songs...they are chock full of some of the most talented riffs that DT has ever wrote. The solos are excellent...the vocals are more decent than others, save for the bit of rapping in TDS. The lyrics are forgiveable...there are better lyrics, but there are also worse lyrics.

However, yes, DT is starting to show its age. Octavarium, while it had a few good songs, i did NOT like at all. It seemed way too poppy for me...DT should do more of their ACOS or 6DOIT styled music than this new style...

Somebody said Portnoy and Petrucci should regrow their hair...doesn't Portnoy still have long hair? He had a mullet-type style on the Live at Budokan DVD at least...Petrucci I agree on, he looks...homosexual with that short and dyed hair he has. (Again, Live at Budokan, he looks like his hair is dyed blonde in the front)

[QUOTE=vashts80]Somebody said Portnoy and Petrucci should regrow their hair...doesn't Portnoy still have long hair? He had a mullet-type style on the Live at Budokan DVD at least...Petrucci I agree on, he looks...homosexual with that short and dyed hair he has. (Again, Live at Budokan, he looks like his hair is dyed blonde in the front)[/QUOTE]

??? Why? Are you going to jerk off to their hair? It's all about the music, buddy. Get your priorities straight.

[QUOTE=slappindabass]??? Why? Are you going to jerk off to their hair? It's all about the music, buddy. Get your priorities straight.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. These people have been pis[B][I][/I][/B]sing me off for a while. That is, people that criticize Metallica and DT and whoever else for cutting their hair.

"Their music sucks now because they have short hair. They need to grow it back so they can rock again."

This is ignorant. Length of hair has absolutely nothing to do with magnitude of rock. So get over it.

the as i am solo is savage

[quote]??? Why? Are you going to jerk off to their hair? It's all about the music, buddy. Get your priorities straight.[/quote]
And the music sucks, and we have to blame something.
[quote]"Their music sucks now because they have short hair. They need to grow it back so they can rock again."[/quote]
I highly doubt anyone ever says that with much seriousness.
[quote]This is ignorant. Length of hair has absolutely nothing to do with magnitude of rock. So get over it.[/quote]
Again...
[quote]the as i am solo is savage[/quote]
Savage wankage...

[QUOTE=juggalotricksta] Length of hair has absolutely nothing to do with magnitude of rock.[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

Some of you people have a hard time understanding what music is. If I braid my pubic hairs, does that suddenly mean that the style of music I am going to be performing in the future will be different than the status quo? No. Maybe hair matters with some bands, but in regards to Dream Theater, if you're going to see them at a show to see Myung rock his hair, or Portnoy do a backflip while he's drumming, or Petrucci smash his guitar, or Rudess play his piano with his back facing it, or LaBrie jumping into the crowd, you're at the wrong **** show. Dream Theater is all about the music. They're not trying to be Nirvana.

Stop ****ing attacking me you dickhead, it's a simple god****ed statement. In my opinion, Petrucci doesn't look right with short hair, just like I wouldn't look right with hair like LaBrie's.

[QUOTE=slappindabass]Exactly.

Some of you people have a hard time understanding what music is. If I braid my pubic hairs, does that suddenly mean that the style of music I am going to be performing in the future will be different than the status quo? No. Maybe hair matters with some bands, but in regards to Dream Theater, if you're going to see them at a show to see Myung rock his hair, or Portnoy do a backflip while he's drumming, or Petrucci smash his guitar, or Rudess play his piano with his back facing it, or LaBrie jumping into the crowd, you're at the wrong **** show. Dream Theater is all about the music. They're not trying to be Nirvana.[/QUOTE]
I would pay to see Myung just wave his hair around.. Although, I think he cut it a bit shorter?

Edit: If you honestly believe people are serious when they say "Petrucci/Portnoy should re-grow their hair" then you're just being silly. Think about it...

[quote]Edit: If you honestly believe people are serious when they say "Petrucci/Portnoy should re-grow their hair" then you're just being silly. Think about it...[/quote]
Exactly. Seriously, you're wasting your time writing that bro.

Myung has ****ing awseome hair, but altogether, hes quite boring on stage. hes an amazing player ythough, which counts.

The song Vacant...what is it based around? i was told it had something to do with La bries expiriences, wold this be correct?

^
it's one of the few songs he has written the lyrics for, so I guess, it's personal stuff.

but so is Portnoy's stuff, sometimes i feel like he should stop revealing his fücked up live to the world via his lyrics.
I mean I respect Portnoy very much, and feel sorry for him having gone through so much trouble, but no the entire world needs to know.

and the hair issue: length of hair has nothing to do with what music you play, but I think it does suit them better.
but that's just a mteer of taste ( i have long hair myself too), and has nothing to do with the way they write songs.

and before I end this post.
what do you guys think of the production of the albums?
I would like to see someone else produce their albums, Mike and Petrucci, produced the last 3, which were good production wise, but I would just like to hear what they would sound like, if someone else would produce.
opinions on this one?

[QUOTE=the2stranger]^
and before I end this post.
what do you guys think of the production of the albums?
I would like to see someone else produce their albums, Mike and Petrucci, produced the last 3, which were good production wise, but I would just like to hear what they would sound like, if someone else would produce.
opinions on this one?[/QUOTE]

When Portnoy and Petrucci produce the DT albums, the guitar always sounds really thick and heavy, the bass is in the background, hardly noticeable, the keyboards always surprise every now and then, and the drums are always there. Vocals are there. Overall I think it sounds good, they just have to fix up the bass and keyboard a bit.

Jordan Rudess produced his solo album "Rhythm of Time" and it sounds pretty **** good for 14 days of writing/mixing/producing. The bass, unlike in DT, is loud and clear, but not too loud, just the right mix. The guitar, however, isn't. But in regards to this album it sounds good. The keyboards, of course is loud and clear. The drums: good enough for me. Vocals: loud and clear.

James LaBrie produced his solo album "Elements of Persuasion". Honestly, on this album everything sounds muddy, especially the guitars. You can't even hear the keyboards (except for when they're under the clean piano effect), and the drums and bass are either nearly inaudible or muddy. The vocals sound okay, similar to DT except lesser quality effects on them.

All that is really left is Myung and honestly there is no way we can tell what he would do, but he's an amazing musician, an amazing poet, and an amazing visionary. We just have to wait and see.

But either way, I think Petrucci and Portnoy should stick to production.

I have a feeling theres so much more to Myung than anybody knows. He contributes little compared to MP & JP as far as the band goes...imagine if he was up front like they are. Its like hes a musical iceberg and we've only seen the tip.

[QUOTE=Chu]I would pay to see Myung just wave his hair around.[/QUOTE]

You've obviously never seen I&W Live in Tokyo ;)

Never seen a DT Video, well except for them doing Master of Puppets.

Should I get a DVD? :p

I just got Live At Budokan, and in the break in Beyond This Life around 37 minutes where Jordan does that amazing keyboard thing then goes right back into the solo is completely orgasmic...

I have:

- Live from Tokyo
- 5 years in a LiveTime
- Scenes from New York
- Live at Budokan

They are all worth it. Especially Live at Tokyo. Watching them perform the Ytse Jam............. is it even possible to play like that???

Grab at least a couple.

Yeh Myung is definatley a musical genius, and you're right we've only seen like 2% of his capacity. They need to let him just go crazy one day.

Out of curiosity, how many of you guys have seen them live. I saw the Train of Thought Tour in Kansas City. The set list wasn't the greatest, but I like that album, so....

i saw them in Japan during their 6DOIT tour.

I have some tickerts for the show in the Netherlands =) I'm looking forward too it =)

[QUOTE=Demon_Hunter_II]I just got Live At Budokan, and in the break in Beyond This Life around 37 minutes where Jordan does that amazing keyboard thing then goes right back into the solo is completely orgasmic...[/QUOTE]
The Instrumeledy is my favorite on the DVD...I came in my pants so many times, its like seeing a really awesome magic show, you are like "whoa, how the **** do they do that?"

I know I'm a little late but I bought the new album (I know its like Octvarium, but I can't spell it yet, so sue me assholes ;) )

I wasn't that impressed, I had the impression that it was trying to be hard, but wasn't quite there...didn't have the oomph that ToT had.
I admit, I do love The Root of All Evil, These Walls and Panic Attack...I dont know, I might have to listen to it a lot more...been going back and forth between so many albums :)

[QUOTE=IvortheEngineDriver]The Instrumeledy is my favorite on the DVD...I came in my pants so many times, its like seeing a really awesome magic show, you are like "whoa, how the **** do they do that?"

I know I'm a little late but I bought the new album (I know its like Octvarium, but I can't spell it yet, so sue me assholes ;) )

I wasn't that impressed, I had the impression that it was trying to be hard, but wasn't quite there...didn't have the oomph that ToT had.
I admit, I do love The Root of All Evil, These Walls and Panic Attack...I dont know, I might have to listen to it a lot more...been going back and forth between so many albums :)[/QUOTE]

Word. Octavarium was pretty anticlimactic. Its an ok album, but it wasnt even near being worth all the build up that was behind it.

And yeah that instrumedley at Budokan PHKN PWNS. I have SFNY, 5YIAL, IAWLIT, and Budokan...and Budokan is probably the best dvd. Although SFNY is pretty friggin close.

[QUOTE=Med57]I'd actually go so far as to say that Myung is the best musician in the band. Portnoy is pretty overrated...he's a good drummer but nothing great, like a lot of people say he is. Petrucci's good as well (very good in fact), but showboats a bit too much...he doesn't focus on the music so much as himself at times, although he can play with a lot of feeling as well). Ruddess suffers from the same sort of thing as Petrucci in my opinion, albeit to a lesser extent. With Myung, he can keep up with Petrucci at times, but he also knows how to sit back and let the music happen, rather than try and force the issue too much. He might not be the most talented musician in the band, but I'd say he understands the music better.[/QUOTE]
I agree, I read a fan bio on Myung, and it said he's pretty quiet, which, if I ever made it big, would be me, so Myung is probably my favourite musician from a personality point of view.
Just sit back and enjoy the music, even if you are an amazing musician and could go around saying how **** good you are.

I would really like a Dream Theater album were they let Myung explore more, maybe he should join the bandwagon and go do a solo album :o

Does anyone have the full Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence?
like the whole 42 minutes of it?
Ive been looking for it forever!!!

It's split into like 8 songs, isn't it?

Uhh...the track Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is the second disc of the 6DOIT album split into tracks..only the band has the "one-42 minute song" version of it since Portnoy didn't want people to have to skip through say 20 mins of the 42 to get to a certain part

anybody ever haer the Working man tribute to rush where sebastian bach is singing jacobs ladder with portnoy? (petrucci and JL were on the album to, not sure if JP was on that song).that dude has some serious fuking pipes on him.

What they need to do imo is fire labrie, Rudess, get sebastian and Kevin moore back in there. and DT will be reborn.