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popinfresh 10-22-2004 07:06 AM

[QUOTE=gaslight]Cool :thumb:.

So these are amp heads?[/QUOTE]

Power amps. 'Heads' have a power amp and preamp section. A power amp has nor preamp section and vice versa. This will only give me power, whilst I keep my warwick tone :)

bassist-bmxer 10-22-2004 07:08 AM

oky doky, i'm ok bit bored though, you?

*punk_rock_sophie* 10-22-2004 07:09 AM

yer im ok, at lunch at the mo! how much money your mum give you?

angry armadillo 10-22-2004 07:12 AM

I'm bored, you may have noticed my post-fest in the pit. Free periods at college w00t.

gaslight 10-22-2004 07:12 AM

[QUOTE=popinfresh]Power amps. 'Heads' have a power amp and preamp section. A power amp has nor preamp section and vice versa. This will only give me power, whilst I keep my warwick tone :)[/QUOTE]

Ohh cool. I kinda understand.

*punk_rock_sophie* 10-22-2004 07:12 AM

oh, i got to go to form now, text me x x x x

gaslight 10-22-2004 07:14 AM

Alright, Coke and Pringles.

:cool:

And I can use the box from the slab of Coke to make a mini pedal board... cool.

popinfresh 10-22-2004 07:17 AM

[QUOTE=gaslight]Ohh cool. I kinda understand.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, see, some people think a 'tube' amp will be louder than solid state. But alot of the time, especially these days, the power section is solid state and the preamp section is tube. Meaning you get tube tone, powered by transisters.

If you bought a preamp, you couldn't power your cabs. But if you only had a power amp, you couldn't change your tone, bar bass's onboard EQ.

gaslight 10-22-2004 07:19 AM

*Blinks.*

:confused:

popinfresh 10-22-2004 07:21 AM

Your normal amp, or head. Has two main sections. Power, backend. And preamp, front end (tone).

A power amp is just power.
A pre amp is just tone shaping.

Plus them together and you get volume and tone.

... i'm tired.. night :p

Crapdragoon 10-22-2004 07:22 AM

[QUOTE=popinfresh]Yeah, see, some people think a 'tube' amp will be louder than solid state. But alot of the time, especially these days, the power section is solid state and the preamp section is tube. Meaning you get tube tone, powered by transisters.

If you bought a preamp, you couldn't power your cabs. But if you only had a power amp, you couldn't change your tone, bar bass's onboard EQ.[/QUOTE]






*gets it*


Hmmmm. *stretches out*

gaslight 10-22-2004 07:23 AM

So you plug in to the front end, and you can shape your tone with the EQ on the pre-amp, and then it goes out the back-end, using power to make it louder?

angry armadillo 10-22-2004 07:25 AM

basically,

The pre amp adds treble,bass and mids, and not very much volume (I think it's less than 10 decibells) the preamp are all the equilaization settings on your amp.

The power amp just makes it loud, IE the volume dial.

Crapdragoon 10-22-2004 07:26 AM

err EDIT: it came out wrong, and armadillo said it betta

Aes820 10-22-2004 07:28 AM

[QUOTE=popinfresh]Yeah, see, some people think a 'tube' amp will be louder than solid state. But alot of the time, especially these days, the power section is solid state and the preamp section is tube. Meaning you get tube tone, powered by transisters.[/QUOTE]
I know it is a bit differnt with bass amps. But with guitar, tube amps do seem louder. Even though they are exactally the same loudness, Watt for watt.
Tube power sections are perceived as being louder. It's a trick that the tubes play on the human ear called 'Low Order harmonic Distortion'.
It is also this which can account to the reasononing behind why people say that tube amps just sound better.

Because of this, most of the 'good sounding stuff' that comes from a tube amp comes from the power section. A tube preamp does warm up your tone to an extent. But the real benefits are in the poweramp.

But, alot of the advantages that Tube amps have with guitar are less advantageous with bass. So SS powersections in bass amps just seem like the way to go.

Has anyone in here had any experience with some of those tube driven MOSFET amps? How do they sound in comparison to their full SS or full Tube counterparts?

Espbassor 10-22-2004 08:25 AM

Hey since we are on the topic of tube amps, if you don't change tubes, will that distort the sound or just stop the head from putting out sound?

Accentopus 10-22-2004 08:59 AM

Good afternoon. Whats happening in the bass forum today? How's you all

Espbassor 10-22-2004 09:15 AM

I'm good, still wondering about that tube question. My guitarists head crapped out on him during practice, and I was wondering if it could be because he hasn't changed tubes?

Accentopus 10-22-2004 09:17 AM

Possibly. Yeah that could be. You need to change them every so often.

Espbassor 10-22-2004 09:20 AM

^ Ok, I was just wondering about that, cause I told him he had to change them every once in a while, and he just looked all confused like I had no clue what I was talking about.

Accentopus 10-22-2004 09:23 AM

Erm...Maybe take it to a centre or shop or something similar.
Anyway, half term here in england, and i'm off for 5 days, so

See you later everyone. Have fun without me

Chris

gaslight 10-22-2004 09:26 AM

Hey man :wave:.

I'm watching my Simpsons DVD's as usual, well really they're on in the background.

I'm listening to Mogwai, eating Pringles, drinking cans from my temporarily unlimited supply of Coke and playing Breath Of Fire on my SNES ROM, I'm about to get the Dragon Sword.

Accentopus 10-22-2004 09:27 AM

I couldn't leave without saying hello and good-bye to gaslight.

Laters Gaslight

Jamie 10-22-2004 09:34 AM

hey guys... ive hardly posted in this casual! i think its because they are going too fast and you just lose reading really quickly...

anyway, i had a pretty good day! not bad lessons...

ive got work in like half an hour though which will be ****...


oh and im ordering a new phone when i get home from work! :) its a nokia 7600

[img]http://www.nokia.co.uk/BaseProject/Sites/NOKIA_MAIN_18022/CDA/Categories/Support/PhonesSupport/Nokia7600/_Content/_Static_Files/7600_teaser_03.jpg[/img]

It may look not very nice but im going to get a jet black cover for it :) actually, i quite like it!

its a good phone (technical-wise) though.

[url]http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/commerce/servlet/gben-server-PageServer?ARTICLE=STATIC.NOK7600[/url]

oh yeah, im only paying like £80 for it :)

Espbassor 10-22-2004 09:36 AM

^That looks too much like a PDA and not a phone for my personal tastes, but if you like it then cool :thumb:

gaslight 10-22-2004 09:54 AM

[QUOTE=ChrisTabber]I couldn't leave without saying hello and good-bye to gaslight.

Laters Gaslight[/QUOTE]

Laters man.

gaslight 10-22-2004 09:56 AM

I still have my old Nokia 3310.

I have a Joe Satriani ring tone that I made myself, and a logo I made myself way back when I was into Millencolin, and if I shake my phone, it rattles.

Jamie 10-22-2004 09:58 AM

^^^ sweet! i made a ringtone of classical thump but didnt get very far before i ran out of notes (theres like a 50 maximum....)

ShelBel 10-22-2004 10:42 AM

G'day everybody! Hope you all feel better than me... my left shoulder is tied up in a knot and so far two muscle relaxers have failed to work... :angry:

gaslight 10-22-2004 10:46 AM

2:41 AM.

If I want to wake up at 11 30 AM with some decent sleep, I guess that means I'll need 7 hours. So bed at 4 30 AM it looks like.


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