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RetiredAt21 08-18-2007 10:29 AM

I'm too lazy. Go to the Hardcore/Emo forum or something.

Dimmu Burger 08-18-2007 10:39 AM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;15158562]I'm too lazy. Go to the Hardcore/Emo forum or something.[/QUOTE]

"Hardcore punk commonly known as just hardcore is a subgenre of punk rock that originated in the United States in the late 1970s. Some of the original punk bands disbanded, or moved onto more experimental genres such as post-punk and art punk. In the States, hardcore emmerged with a new sound, which was generally thicker, heavier, and faster than standard punk rock.[1] It is sometimes characterized by short, loud[2], and passionate songs about serious topics such as government, capitalism, anarchism, war and the hardcore subculture itself."

Is that accurate?

RetiredAt21 08-18-2007 10:42 AM

Eh.

Dimmu Burger 08-18-2007 10:54 AM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;15158605]Eh.[/QUOTE]

There, Wikipedia did most of the work, you can just revise.

masscows 08-18-2007 12:32 PM

yay for dead kennedys?

Ayliffe 08-18-2007 01:18 PM

[QUOTE=encmetalhead;15149006]Ayliffe,

PLease go away from threads which you have no knowlodge of. If you must stay, then just post liek elim, meaningless crap.

Thank you and good bye[/QUOTE]

im gonna have to just say **** you to this one.

i was trying to understand why people seem to think this is one of the best metal genres out there, when i can't see it in anyway.

and it turns out i was right, there really is nothing special about it, i learnt what i wanted to learn.. and i left.


so like i said.

**** You.


thanks and have a good day. :smash:

2muchket! 08-18-2007 02:41 PM

The genre has it's moments and metalcore bands such as converge and botch have made some great albums.

masterchaos 08-18-2007 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=Frankie;15159337]The genre has it's moments and metalcore bands such as converge and botch have made some great albums.[/QUOTE]

Can someone here please explain to me what the big deal is with Converge? All of the music Ive heard from them is nothing more than noise.

illpressureurhinges1 08-18-2007 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=masterchaos;15159812]Can someone here please explain to me what the big deal is with Converge? All of the music Ive heard from them is nothing more than noise.[/QUOTE]

thank god! finally someone sees it the way i do. i dont think theyre really that talented at all, and yet everyone seems to think they are so innovative or something. its just noise. thank you!

margin0walker 08-18-2007 04:30 PM

are you not listening to the music or something

illpressureurhinges1 08-18-2007 04:33 PM

i am, and im not hearing anything special

Eliminator 08-18-2007 04:39 PM

How exactly does that make it "noise"?

illpressureurhinges1 08-18-2007 04:40 PM

inaudible vocals, just roaring guitars, and thats it... its like theyre just trying to be as loud as they can, and thats it

margin0walker 08-18-2007 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=illpressureurhinges1;15159843]i am, and im not hearing anything special[/QUOTE]

:-|

Concubine 08-18-2007 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=illpressureurhinges1;15159843]i am, and im not hearing anything special[/QUOTE]

maybe you just dont like their style of music then

Eliminator 08-18-2007 04:43 PM

[quote=illpressureurhinges1;15159884]inaudible vocals, just roaring guitars, and thats it... its like theyre just trying to be as loud as they can, and thats it[/quote]

If you can't seem to hear notes and melody, then you really should just give up on listening to music. Maybe you can live in a cave. Then again, when the nearby animals came near, you would probably yell at them - "STOP MAKING THAT GOD DAMN NOISE!"

illpressureurhinges1 08-18-2007 04:50 PM

i was just expressing my opinion. u didnt have to take it up the butt, whether or not my opinion sucks

bwnstl 08-18-2007 05:59 PM

This conversation has already been had in either this thread or another thread, but I'll re-hash:

Saying that Converge is just a bunch of noise is NOT an opinion--it is flat out false. You can say that you don't appreciate it, and that's fine, because that IS your opinion. But saying it is just noise and inaudible crap makes you simply wrong.

illpressureurhinges1 08-18-2007 06:01 PM

well then im wrong... and i dont appreciate it. there you go!

bwnstl 08-18-2007 06:03 PM

Thanks.

But Converge is awesome btw. :p

illpressureurhinges1 08-18-2007 06:06 PM

if u say so...

Virus278 08-18-2007 08:28 PM

Converge
Botch
Poison the well
Horse the band
Darkest hour
Dillinger escape plan
Unearth
As I lay dying

[QUOTE=Hbp]My god. Im gonna state the obviosu here. They may not be metalcore, or maybe just slightly, but Kezia by Protest The Hero is just...godly.[/QUOTE]

Everyone seems to really like that album but I just can't get into it. The vocals really annoy me.

masterchaos 08-18-2007 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=illpressureurhinges1;15160287]if u say so...[/QUOTE]

The reason I classified them as "noise" is because that is all that I hear.Each band member sounds like the are trying to be twice as loud as the other and on top of that the singer is just yelling and screaming. He has nothing to say at all but BOY IS HE PISSED!
Im sorry if you see it a different way but hey that just the way life works. Im not coming to your house to smash your cds or anything.

margin0walker 08-18-2007 09:01 PM

[QUOTE=Virus278;15160893]Converge
Botch
Poison the well
Horse the band
Darkest hour
Dillinger escape plan
Unearth
As I lay dying

[/QUOTE]

what was that list for

Eliminator 08-18-2007 09:01 PM

To prove how much he knows about metalcore.

illpressureurhinges1 08-18-2007 09:11 PM

[QUOTE=masterchaos;15161081]The reason I classified them as "noise" is because that is all that I hear.Each band member sounds like the are trying to be twice as loud as the other and on top of that the singer is just yelling and screaming. He has nothing to say at all but BOY IS HE PISSED!
Im sorry if you see it a different way but hey that just the way life works. Im not coming to your house to smash your cds or anything.[/QUOTE]

dude... i was the one agreeing with u. i think that they are all too loud and that all it is is screaming. i dont get y everyone likes it so much.

RetiredAt21 08-18-2007 11:10 PM

[QUOTE=Eliminator;15161108]To prove how much he knows about metalcore.[/QUOTE]

lol

Better list:

Rorschach
Kiss It Goodbye
Integrity
Botch
Converge
Coalesce

Shattered_Future 08-18-2007 11:17 PM

I could never get into Kezia. It was very well written, it's just not my type of music at all.

Tyler 08-19-2007 12:56 AM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future;15161727]I could never get into Kezia. It was very well written, it's just not my type of music at all.[/QUOTE]

not metalcore gtfo

their new album rapes it already though

but not metalcore gtfo

Virus278 08-19-2007 01:46 AM

[QUOTE=masterchaos;15161081]The reason I classified them as "noise" is because that is all that I hear.Each band member sounds like the are trying to be twice as loud as the other and on top of that the singer is just yelling and screaming. He has nothing to say at all but BOY IS HE PISSED!
Im sorry if you see it a different way but hey that just the way life works. Im not coming to your house to smash your cds or anything.[/QUOTE]

It's somewhat of an acquired taste IMO. When I first heard about Converge I was expecting them to be really great because of how hyped up they are but when I listened to them for the first time I thought “wtf is this crap”. Even now I still sometimes think to myself “why am I listening to these guys - this isn’t even real music” but every now and then when I get back from a long day of school or something and turn on some Converge it almost kind of relaxes me. IDK, I actually kind of have mixed feelings on bands like Converge/Pig Destroyer/Dillinger Escape Plan.

[QUOTE=Cocaine]not metalcore gtfo

their new album rapes it already though

but not metalcore gtfo[/QUOTE]

Nobody said it was metalcore. He wasn't the one who started talking about the band and neither was I.

[QUOTE=Eliminator]To prove how much he knows about metalcore.[/QUOTE]

lol

Dimmu Burger 08-19-2007 06:51 AM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;15161695]lol

Better list:

Rorschach
Kiss It Goodbye
Integrity
Botch
Converge
Coalesce[/QUOTE]

Coalesce freakin owns. I'm glad they are currently playing together.


NP: SkyEatsAirplane - Everything Perfect on the Wrong Day
Arsonists Get All The Girls - The Game Of Life

any fans?

RetiredAt21 08-19-2007 08:00 AM

I'm surprised Coalesce even got back together.

Dimmu Burger 08-19-2007 08:31 AM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;15162560]I'm surprised Coalesce even got back together.[/QUOTE]

yeah they are all picky about people saying its a "reunion" and all that, but they are apparently recording an album, from what I hear.

RetiredAt21 08-19-2007 08:33 AM

If they actually are gonna record a new album, I can't wait to hear it.

Dimmu Burger 08-19-2007 08:36 AM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;15162616]If they actually are gonna record a new album, I can't wait to hear it.[/QUOTE]

I'm with you there.

RetiredAt21 08-19-2007 09:03 AM

It's pretty rare that good bands get back together to record a new album. I'm pretty excited.

masterchaos 08-19-2007 10:21 AM

[QUOTE=illpressureurhinges1;15161166]dude... i was the one agreeing with u. i think that they are all too loud and that all it is is screaming. i dont get y everyone likes it so much.[/QUOTE]

haha, I know you were. I just had quoted the wrong comment.

And to Virus...I appreciate somebody stating themselves without resorting to name calling or laughable antics like that

illpressureurhinges1 08-19-2007 03:19 PM

yah seriously... its nice when u can state your opinion without getting told your a retard or sumthing

RetiredAt21 08-19-2007 03:36 PM

Protest The Hero is lame.

illpressureurhinges1 08-19-2007 03:47 PM

theyre not THAT bad, its just u either like it or u dont. weird stuff


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