I'm sure he was joking, Jom. :/

Okay, seeing as you all know I'm in a relationship, I'd like to make it clear that this is for a friend, and for once, I don't really know what to say to him, seeing as all people involved are my friends in this one.

Okay, my friend Jon likes a girl at school named Elora. Like I said, both of them are my friends. However, our other friend, J.D., went out with Elora first, and he has made it clear that he does not want Jon to be with her. However, J.D. has only been at our school for awhile, while Jon has been here forever, and has liked Elora for as long as I can remember, which is MUCH longer than J.D.
So, what should he do?
I mean, J.D. still has feelings for her and, like I said, has made it clear that he doesn't want Jon to be with her, but Jon likes her so much.

If they're friends, he should back off the girl for his bud. Bros before hoes, ya know.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]If they're friends, he should back off the girl for his bud. Bros before hoes, ya know.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but he's liked her much longer, and from what I can tell, he likes her much MORE than J.D.

He's just never had the courage to say anything.

Are Jon and J.D. friends? How does Elora feel about J.D., and how does she feel about Jon? If it's over between Elora and JD, then he needs to learn that it's over and it's time to let go.

EDIT: didn't see the above posts. Bros before hoes.

And I have a petty question...what's the best way to ask a girl to be your girlfriend. I haven't had one since last summer. I don't know if "will you go out with me?" is too middle school, or "will you be my girlfriend?" is better? So yeah, stupid question, but I just don't know. I'm not saying it's just between those two, but any suggestions?

[quote]Okay, I'm gonna explode if I don't ask for advice, and please, I don't want this strictass crap like "Suck it up" or "Stop bitching" or any of that. Please hear me out and give me some decent advice.

There's this girl that I just think is amazing, and I just can't stop thinking about her. She's already my friend, but she isn't as close as most of my friends. She already knows that I really like her (I think I may love her since I care about her so much), but she doens't share the same feelings towards me. Now, I know I could just forget about her and look for someone else, but I don't want to. When I think of her I feel great, anytime I'm depressed and I think about being with her, everything feels wonderful. Now, I know that there's been people who liked girls that said they'd never like the people that like em', but somehow, they end up being together, and I'm hoping this'll happen with me and her. Problem is, I don't know what to do.

I want to do something that'll show her how much I care for her, and may get her to wake up and realise that I should be with her, but I don't want to do something that'll annoy her, because I don't want to ruin our friendship. Like, I don't want to keep begging her, not that I have, but I want to do something that could make her maybe change her mind and maybe even fall in love with me. According to her, it's not my looks she doesn't like, she just for some reason does not like me that way.

Please guys, give me some good tips to where I can get her. Please.[/quote]

Essentially, what you are doing is putting 'the pussy on a pedestal' to borrow a line from the goat man in the Steve Carell movie.

Liking someone or loving them from afar is no real reason for you to be the right person to be with said person. You're idealizing what might be. Way before anything has happened to suggest that this is a real possibility, you're making judgments based on the little you know of her. You already said she isn't your closest friend and that she isn't interested in you atm. That does not mean you hold out hope that she means 'I will grow to love you in the future even though I don't now'. What it means is 'I don't love you right now'. That's about all it means. If you've made your case already, leaver her be. If things are to work out, they will. Trying to woo her now is not going to leave either of you with a good feeling about each other.

[quote]And I have a petty question...what's the best way to ask a girl to be your girlfriend. I haven't had one since last summer. I don't know if "will you go out with me?" is too middle school, or "will you be my girlfriend?" is better? So yeah, stupid question, but I just don't know. I'm not saying it's just between those two, but any suggestions?[/quote]

I'm going to assume you're at least a high school junior or older or else ignore what I have to say. Don't ask her in such terms. Tell her you're going to get some coffee and you'd like her to come with you. Have a great time there and if things turn out well, she'll ask you and you won't have to worry. If not, you can tell her you had fun and would like to go out with her.

[QUOTE=Tillius]Okay, seeing as you all know I'm in a relationship, I'd like to make it clear that this is for a friend, and for once, I don't really know what to say to him, seeing as all people involved are my friends in this one.

Okay, my friend Jon likes a girl at school named Elora. Like I said, both of them are my friends. However, our other friend, J.D., went out with Elora first, and he has made it clear that he does not want Jon to be with her. However, J.D. has only been at our school for awhile, while Jon has been here forever, and has liked Elora for as long as I can remember, which is MUCH longer than J.D.
So, what should he do?
I mean, J.D. still has feelings for her and, like I said, has made it clear that he doesn't want Jon to be with her, but Jon likes her so much.[/QUOTE]

It is Jon's turn. JD had his chance and blew it. He does not control Jon and Elora's lives.

Thats my take. Hello thread again. Long time no post, again. *is sad*

[QUOTE=Jom]This is your one and only warning.

Say something like this again, and you're going to take a vacation.

You must have a terrible memory or something: Destined_for's fiancé bailed on him. How is that not a problem, again?

Banning or not banning you doesn't faze me at all, but I will not tolerate one user telling another to essentially fuc[font=verdana]k[/font] off in this thread.[/QUOTE]
I guess I didn't read that post...

I'm sorry, I have the slowest computer ever. Unlike you guys who can zip through the pages of the thread and read every post in a matter of seconds, it takes like 5 minutes just to load up one page, so I never have the time to read everything, so I prolly overlooked his problem.

I thought that he was complaining because his girlfriends previous boyfriends fingered her, and now he comes out saying that he's fingered her too, but doenst care because he now has a new girlfriend. It just seemed to me like he was posting that crap for the sake of boosting his postcount or somethin, plus I was a bit steamed that I was being ignored, like I always am.

But YOU always manage to haunt me and tell me how crappy my posts are and all that crap. ALWAYS. If you have a problem with me, then just f[size=2]ucking[/size] ban my always will be single a[size=2]ss[/size].

[QUOTE=Rasta Rockerstat3]Are Jon and J.D. friends? How does Elora feel about J.D., and how does she feel about Jon? If it's over between Elora and JD, then he needs to learn that it's over and it's time to let go.

And I have a petty question...what's the best way to ask a girl to be your girlfriend. I haven't had one since last summer. I don't know if "will you go out with me?" is too middle school, or "will you be my girlfriend?" is better? So yeah, stupid question, but I just don't know.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Jon and J.D. are friends, that's where the problem is coming from. And, I think Elora may have feelings for Jon, too.

Now let's help you out here.

There is no right or wrong way to ask a girl out, nor is there a good or a bad way. When you're about to ask her, just speak from the heart and the best thing will probably come out.

[QUOTE=Tillius]Yeah, but he's liked her much longer, and from what I can tell, he likes her much MORE than J.D.

He's just never had the courage to say anything.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, J.D. needs to get over her, but Jon really needs to back off and be sure his pal is ok with it first. Friends are much more important than girls. Jon should lay low until him and J.D. can work it out, and he can get over the girl. It's not worth risking it IMO.

Hi, Jay.

:wave:

How's it going?

[QUOTE=Rasta Rockerstat3]Are Jon and J.D. friends? How does Elora feel about J.D., and how does she feel about Jon? If it's over between Elora and JD, then he needs to learn that it's over and it's time to let go.

EDIT: didn't see the above posts. Bros before hoes.

And I have a petty question...what's the best way to ask a girl to be your girlfriend. I haven't had one since last summer. I don't know if "will you go out with me?" is too middle school, or "will you be my girlfriend?" is better? So yeah, stupid question, but I just don't know. I'm not saying it's just between those two, but any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Would you be interested in going out with me? Would you wanan give going out a try? Seems to work for me.

Liking someone longer is no measure of anything.
The bros before hoes thing is juvenile. He should do what is in his best interest, whatever that might be.

[QUOTE=Strongbad]I guess I didn't read that post...

I'm sorry, I have the slowest computer ever. Unlike you guys who can zip through the pages of the thread and read every post in a matter of seconds, it takes like 5 minutes just to load up one page, so I never have the time to read everything, so I prolly overlooked his problem.

I thought that he was complaining because his girlfriends previous boyfriends fingered her, and now he comes out saying that he's fingered her too, but doenst care because he now has a new girlfriend. It just seemed to me like he was posting that crap for the sake of boosting his postcount or somethin, plus I was a bit steamed that I was being ignored, like I always am.

But YOU always manage to haunt me and tell me how crappy my posts are and all that crap. ALWAYS. If you have a problem with me, then just f[size=2]ucking[/size] ban [B]my always will be single a[size=2]ss[/size].[/B][/QUOTE]
Calm down you're fifteen. I think.

[QUOTE=Strongbad]But YOU always manage to haunt me and tell me how crappy my posts are and all that crap. ALWAYS. If you have a problem with me, then just f[size=2]ucking[/size] ban my always will be single a[size=2]ss[/size].[/QUOTE]

No, YOU seek attention on the Internet and then freak out when people couldn't care less that you're bored or lonely. People had a right to be pissed off in R&M because there was decent discussion going on and for you to interrupt it with...

[quote]im bored :([/quote]

... is bunk. It's part of my responsibility to make sure that posts like that get removed.

And if you're going to bitch for the sake of bitching, I can suggest the following sites:

[url]http://www.myspace.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.deadjournal.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.livejournal.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.xanga.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.aboutmylife.net/[/url]

As opposed to you trying to seek gratification on the Internet.

You're how old, again? Fifteen?

If you're having the worst time of your life right now, I envy you, kid, 'cause you're going to lead one happy life.

FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. How can you be depressed at age fifteen?

[QUOTE=Jom]No, YOU seek attention on the Internet and then freak out when people couldn't care less that you're bored or lonely. People had a right to be pissed off in R&M because there was decent discussion going on and for you to interrupt it with...



... is bunk. It's part of my responsibility to make sure that posts like that get removed.

And if you're going to bitch for the sake of bitching, I can suggest the following sites:

[url]http://www.myspace.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.deadjournal.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.livejournal.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.xanga.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.aboutmylife.net/[/url]

As opposed to you trying to seek gratification on the Internet.

You're how old, again? Fifteen?

If you're having the worst time of your life right now, I envy you, kid, 'cause you're going to lead one happy life.

FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. How can you be depressed at age fifteen?[/QUOTE]

I'm not seeking attention. I'm not depressed.

I just want you to LEAVE ME THE FU[size=2]CK[/size] ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Strongbad]I'm not seeking attention. I'm not depressed.

I just want you to LEAVE ME THE FU[size=2]CK[/size] ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

You're clearly not tracking here.

You cannot expect to receive incendiary remarks from R&M regulars by derailing their conversation in the community thread with "im so bored :(" or "im always going to be single :upset:"

How is that not seeking attention? Do you want a hug or a cookie or a belly rub?

You might get that in Pop-Punk where people are nice, but in R&M where a vast majority of users listen to black and death metal, they couldn't care less about a fifteen year old's arbitrary whinefest in their thread.

Nobody - I repeat for the sake of repetition - NOBODY likes to have someone who's not a regular there to sit in a thread out of the blue with frowny faces and lines of sadness and interrupt the normally decent discussion that's taking place.

Now, this is your final warning. You can either a) drop this because you're going to lose convincingly, or b) continue this tirade and fully expect to be banned on behalf of everyone who has been inconvenienced by you in the past.

Either move on, or take a break from the Internet. It doesn't bug me either way, as it's not hard to do one or the other.

Point is: you're dumping on this thread now, which isn't a place to dump on. Ever. You can play with fire, if you'd like, but I have no qualms about making you wet :naughty:

What I mean is, you're always on my case, even before that "im bored" incident. I'd like to know why are you so hard on me, yet all these "vets" as you like to call em, can get away with murder practically, I just wanted some stupid advice about how I could get a girl, I know that's stereotypical for this thread to be asking for advice on getting a girl, and I could just look at other peoples questions, but I have a slowass computer and can't waste my time searching through the whole thread to find my answers. Plus, apparently, I'm a sensitive guy, so when I ask for a simple answer and I get responses like "Stop thinking about you all the time" or"stop bitching", it's hurtful. I'm sorry if you guys think all I care about is me, I just wanted a damn answer. You can ban me if you wish though, i seriously don't care. My 3,000 and some odd posts have been nothing but waste anyway, because my music knowledge is so low, there's no point in sticking around.

Dude, you've got people answering your problem specifically. Drop it. I'm not trying to be mean but you're not helping your case by going at it.

[QUOTE=Jom]FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. How can you be depressed at age fifteen?[/QUOTE]Hey! Are you making fun of me?

Ahh, you two are awesome. Much love from the momentary emo.

[QUOTE=The Profit of Maine]Hey! Are you making fun of me?

Ahh, you two are awesome. Much love from the momentary emo.[/QUOTE]

Man, you must be one freakin' smart dude to be at an institution of higher learning at age fifteen and momentary emo status :eek:

Just kidding, heh. Any word/developments for you since you last popped up here?

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Hi, Jay.

:wave:

How's it going?[/QUOTE]

It's going well, I guess. I am sick/allergies so I feel bad but that negativity is counteracted in part by the mere fact that I am in a new relationship. Ill spare you the long story but it tis great.

How are things going with you? :wave:

[QUOTE=Jom]Man, you must be one freakin' smart dude to be at an institution of higher learning at age fifteen and momentary emo status :eek:

Just kidding, heh. Any word/developments for you since you last popped up here?[/QUOTE]
To not sidetrack our conversation: I was emo last night and still a bit today because of not knowing if I'm in love with my ex. When I mention a specific detail, that Chaindrive picked out, too, everyone tells me no. So it just sucks to know that a year and a half of close friendship is for nothing because whenever we get close, it's just going to end up how it was: me getting sick of being around her. But given Tennyson and all that, I'm glad we had something. Sorry, dude.

But yeah, brought on last night because she ended up going to a party uni and I was getting jealous/possessive/whatever.

I just had a huge fight with my gf of 2 years, again. She pretty much got mad at me and before leaving deciding to try to punch and hit me in the face, I kept telling her to settle down but she didnt, mom came up stairs and told her to get off me and leave and she said "**** your son." Should I seriously break up with her or forgive her. I do love her and all but, I now have over a year span, broken door, broken computer, broken guitar, and now a swollen face, everything of hers remains intact. This isnt right is it?

[QUOTE=Pitch Fork6]I just had a huge fight with my gf of 2 years, again. She pretty much got mad at me and before leaving deciding to try to punch and hit me in the face, I kept telling her to settle down but she didnt, mom came up stairs and told her to get off me and leave and she said "**** your sun." Should I seriously break up with her or forgive her. I do love her and all but, I now have over a year span, broken door, broken computer, broken guitar, and now a swollen face, everything of hers remains intact. This isnt right is it?[/QUOTE]

No, it's not right. You shouldn't take any physical abuse or watch your stuff get busted because she's a loose cannon. How can you forgive someone for that? Geez.

[QUOTE=pohl_56]It's going well, I guess. I am sick/allergies so I feel bad but that negativity is counteracted in part by the mere fact that I am in a new relationship. Ill spare you the long story but it tis great.

How are things going with you? :wave:[/QUOTE]

Congrats on your new relationship!

Except for the fact that I want to rip my psycho man's hair out, everything is fine.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Congrats on your new relationship!

Except for the fact that I want to rip my psycho man's hair out, everything is fine.[/QUOTE]

Uh oh. Whats the story now?

[QUOTE=pohl_56]Uh oh. Whats the story now?[/QUOTE]
Yeah!

/sits cross-legged with hot chocolate

No, I really am ten. Shut up, Jom.

He called me on Thursday night and we talked for like 2 1/2 hours. I really thought I had those feelings under control But I didn't, and I got upset, and he got upset, and I felt like I was gonna lose it, so I hung up on him.

The next day he posted a song on his board that was aimed at me.

What really gets to me is the fact that he won't give it a chance because he's too afraid. I mean, he tells me Thursday night that I'm awesome, and all that stuff, but he won't try it, which makes me feel totally unspecial.

Bah.

He'll probably read this tomorrow, since he's now an MXer.

Bah.

Honestly, who cares if he reads this. You wouldn't be posting it here if you were afraid of him reading it. He's probably out lumberjacking while performing Wiccan rituals or something.

He can read it if he wants...it's not like he doesn't know how I feel, and he knows I mention him here already.

"I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay."

:D

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]He can read it if he wants...it's not like he doesn't know how I feel, and he knows I mention him here already.

"I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay."

:D[/QUOTE]

I thought things between you 2 were almost good and now this. I would be crazy by now.

All she has to do is shove garlic in his face or throw Holy water on him and he'll go away. Crucifixes are hard to come by these days, especially if you don't want to steal from a church and guarantee your place in Hell.

Or, in the alternative, I could pull his hair.

Which I've done before, on occassion. When he's frustrated me to the point of no return. I mean, why does he HAVE all that hair if I'm not meant to pull it?

[QUOTE=Jom]All she has to do is shove garlic in his face or throw Holy water on him and he'll go away. Crucifixes are hard to come by these days, especially if you don't want to steal from a church and guarantee your place in Hell.[/QUOTE]

I would probably go with a silver bullet. Though not as effective as anything else, it not only removes the pesky howling demon, but u can keep your distance so as not to bite.

[b][color=deepskyblue]Load a Super Soaker with Holy water, too, heh.

-Jom[/b][/color]

[QUOTE=pohl_56]I would probably go with a silver bullet. Though not as effective as anything else, it not only removes the pesky howling demon, but u can keep your distance so as not to bite.

[b][color=deepskyblue]Load a Super Soaker with Holy water, too, heh.

-Jom[/b][/color][/QUOTE]

I think I'd rather just pull his hair. It gets the point across.

As does my "Boys Are Stupid Throw Rocks At Them" T-shirt.

:)

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]I think I'd rather just pull his hair. It gets the point across.

As does my "Boys Are Stupid Throw Rocks At Them" T-shirt.

:)[/QUOTE]

Supersoaker idea works too. U pull his hair, Ill get the water gun, Jom can supervise the operation and make sure we dont get banned and then discard of the melted carcas/ash.

what's his username?

[QUOTE=pohl_56]Supersoaker idea works too. U pull his hair, Ill get the water gun, Jom can supervise the operation and make sure we dont get banned and then discard of the melted carcas/ash.[/QUOTE]

Teamwork, ftw!

[quote=Adnan]what's his username?[/quote]

blatherskite.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]I think I'd rather just pull his hair. It gets the point across.

As does my "Boys Are Stupid Throw Rocks At Them" T-shirt.

:)[/QUOTE]
I want that shirt. <.<