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Cain 04-11-2005 03:53 PM

[QUOTE=Arise II]Now, [I]that[/I] I would not do. IMO, the longer a somng is (and more contrast-filled) the better. Its just that of all the Opeth songs I've downloaded, most of them were just clean and acoustic throughout[/QUOTE]

You're listening to too many songs off Dam[size=2]n[/size]ation, it sounds like.

Darkness 04-11-2005 05:57 PM

I'm sure you all know that Opeth is playing in the Sounds of the Underground tour... But do you know if there going to Edmonton, Alberta? (Canada)

Deth 04-11-2005 07:24 PM

Let me check out the dates for you.


Your lucky day! July 28th.

I can't go because it's four hours away from where I live and I will be in England.

Moses 04-11-2005 07:58 PM

Wow I can't believe I haven't posted in here yet.

Any way I don't have any albums but once I get some money It's all going to Opeth. First I'll buy Blackwater Park, because it's got my favorite songs on there like, BWP and The Drapery Falls. Next I'll probably buy Morningrise because I like Black Rose Immortal alot. After that I don't know.

bucket 04-12-2005 12:42 PM

****ing **** I just got Still Life!

:cool:

Just started The Moor :cool:

:thumb:

:cool:

:amaze:

Prince of Darkness 04-12-2005 12:53 PM

I have three tickets to the Sounds of the Underground but only I can go....2 spares...

Det_Nosnip 04-12-2005 01:39 PM

[QUOTE=Arise II]Now, [I]that[/I] I would not do. IMO, the longer a somng is (and more contrast-filled) the better. Its just that of all the Opeth songs I've downloaded, most of them were just clean and acoustic throughout[/QUOTE]

"The Drapery Falls," off of BWP, is something like 10 or 11 minutes long, and by the end of it gets through everything. "The Lepar Affinity" is long as well, and is heavy throughout the entire song except for a short acoustic break at the end. "Bleak" goes back and forth and is just overall badass.

I really don't see how you could listen to more than 1 song from Blackwater Park and say it's all ballads. :lol: As someone else mentioned, you probably were getting songs from ****ation, which was a special experimental album that the band did that was intended to be all soft/acoustic music that was still dark and heavy in its own way.

Darkness 04-12-2005 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Let me check out the dates for you.


Your lucky day! July 28th.

I can't go because it's four hours away from where I live and I will be in England.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure Opeth will be playing though? That date isn't on their site...

Deth 04-13-2005 02:13 PM

For sure. They would have announced if they couldn't do all of the shows.

Check it at [url]http://soundsoftheundergroundtour.com[/url].

Grey Incision 04-14-2005 09:41 PM

as soon as i can learn to growl, my bands covering demon of the fall :) we can play it, just can't sing it

bball_1523 04-15-2005 12:49 AM

no so.cal shows for the summer tour? I don't wanna drive 6 hours north to just watch opeth play with a bunch of metalcore bands. lol

Deth 04-15-2005 07:52 AM

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]as soon as i can learn to growl, my bands covering demon of the fall :) we can play it, just can't sing it[/QUOTE]
I can growl with it for a verse or two and then my throat gives out.

Maybe I'm just weak :upset:.

Grey Incision 04-15-2005 07:56 AM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]I can growl with it for a verse or two and then my throat gives out.

Maybe I'm just weak :upset:.[/QUOTE]

i just need to know how to growl, hahaha :p

Deth 04-15-2005 07:57 AM

Practice, young padawan. The problem is doing it for any sustained amount of time.

the2stranger 04-15-2005 08:02 AM

I can growl 2 or 3 songs, it's just a pain in the a$s to to clean after the growls

Special Brew 04-15-2005 08:10 AM

I can growl but not as deeply as Mikael, and growling doesn't affect my clean voice much. But I am not a very good clean singer, but I am getting better. I can sing harsh blackmetal vocals pretty well and for a decent amount of time without any problems. I don't know how to get my voice deep enough to do the deathmetal-ish growls, I guess my voice is just a little to high.

Deth 04-15-2005 08:13 AM

I can all the clean vocals almost perfectly, excluding some of the higher notes he hits and going from a growl to clean isn't a problem, it's just keeping the growling going for a while.

Arise II 04-15-2005 08:46 AM

[QUOTE=S.O.B.]I can growl but not as deeply as Mikael, and growling doesn't affect my clean voice much. But I am not a very good clean singer, but I am getting better.[/QUOTE]

123. I'm thinkin' about getting singing lessons

Deth 04-15-2005 08:48 AM

Think they do death metal singing?

Arise II 04-15-2005 09:11 AM

Hahaha, not necessary, I've already got that part down, its the clean singing that needs work

Det_Nosnip 04-15-2005 10:50 AM

Vocal lessons will help with everything. It's all about learning how to control your voice.

Special Brew 04-15-2005 11:52 AM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Vocal lessons will help with everything. It's all about learning how to control your voice.[/QUOTE]

:thumb:

I've been thinking about vocal lessons, but I am taking classical guitar lessons from Larry Long, renting out my former guitar teachers studio every month, and I may be getting piano lessons from some lady about 40 mins away that is supposedly semi-famous. And they all charge a pretty penny for their lessons, so I don't know if I could afford vocal lessons as well. Also, I am extremely shy about singing in front of people I don't know, screaming/harsh singing I do no prob, but singing is embarassing. :upset:

Magicaltroll 04-15-2005 12:24 PM

[QUOTE=S.O.B.]:thumb:

I've been thinking about vocal lessons, but I am taking classical guitar lessons from Larry Long, renting out my former guitar teachers studio every month, and I may be getting piano lessons from some lady about 40 mins away that is supposedly semi-famous. And they all charge a pretty penny for their lessons, so I don't know if I could afford vocal lessons as well. Also, I am extremely shy about singing in front of people I don't know, screaming/harsh singing I do no prob, but singing is embarassing. :upset:[/QUOTE]
I know what you mean about singing man, but if you do play a show or something, just close your eyes or something. And jsut block it out of your mind.

I know... I know... easier said than done.

Det_Nosnip 04-15-2005 02:36 PM

[QUOTE=S.O.B.]:thumb:

I've been thinking about vocal lessons, but I am taking classical guitar lessons from Larry Long, renting out my former guitar teachers studio every month, and I may be getting piano lessons from some lady about 40 mins away that is supposedly semi-famous. And they all charge a pretty penny for their lessons, so I don't know if I could afford vocal lessons as well. Also, I am extremely shy about singing in front of people I don't know, screaming/harsh singing I do no prob, but singing is embarassing. :upset:[/QUOTE]

I know what you mean, I'm kinda the same way. I'm very self conscious about my voice, particularly since alot of my friends are vocal performance majors. :lol: It's really a shame...now I wish I had joined choirs when I was a kid! I'd like to take vocal lessons some time soon, though...piano, too! Piano is probably the most attractive thing for me right now as a melodic instrument, because it's so **** straight forward and easy to understand if you have a decent grasp of music, plus you can easily voice against different sections because pianos have so many octaves.

Bertovo 04-15-2005 05:59 PM

In Bleak, during the clean parts, is Mikael doing lead vocals, and Steve Wilson doing clean, or the other way around?

Deth 04-15-2005 06:26 PM

Mikeal's doing everything, but Steven probably added his voice to the mix of the clean vocals as well.

ElectricalStorm 04-15-2005 10:04 PM

In bleak Mikael does the growling and the clean section is a duet For example at the beginning of the clean section:

"devious movements in your eyes -- steven wilson
Moved me from relief -- Mikael
Breath comes out white clouds with your lies -- steven wilson
And filters through me" -- Mikael

Bertovo 04-15-2005 11:29 PM

Thanks.

Does that mean they don't play Bleak live?

Or does Mikael just do it by himself?

ElectricalStorm 04-16-2005 09:37 AM

They don't play bleak live but its most likely because it has multiple guitars layered on to the track (at least four of them). :thumb:

Arise II 04-16-2005 09:42 AM

^^^I though most Opeth songs had layered guitar. How do they do with all the ones that has acoustic and electric? Doubleneck or really fast switchin? ;)


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