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BuddyBigsby 09-14-2004 05:09 PM

[QUOTE=nothing6]Nope, lickgoldensky broke up. It should be somewhere on the net. They were supposed to play the show last night, but didn't. And then the guitarist from another band confirmed it. The guitarist said that he had built this wall around himself in the band and that he didn't feel a part of it anymore, and then he didn't like being in that position, so he walked off stage after whichever song, and that's that.[/QUOTE]

Ah, that sucks. I hope Ed Gein, Plot, and Breather Resist don't drop off the tour here, because I still want to see them. Are you sure they broke up and the guitarist didn't just leave? Where'd you hear this, also?

AndHagan2 09-14-2004 05:13 PM

[QUOTE]Fri – Oct 15 – Evergreen Terrace / Until the End / Casey Jones / Donnybrook / [/QUOTE]


God d'amn you.

shane italian 09-14-2004 05:27 PM

That show is the 16th for me.

BuddyBigsby 09-14-2004 05:30 PM

o.O

Are you going to an L.A. show or something?

shane italian 09-14-2004 05:31 PM

CORRECTION! That show is the 15th for me as well.

shane italian 09-14-2004 05:31 PM

Oh yeah, Buddy, did you hear about the Terror video shoot/free show in LA?

BuddyBigsby 09-14-2004 05:35 PM

I heard about the video shoot.

...I did not read the part about the free show. This is good news.

shane italian 09-14-2004 05:37 PM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]I heard about the video shoot.

...I did not read the part about the free show. This is good news.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I might ask my cousin if she would want to go hang out in LA and drop me off while she does whatever it is she wants.

BuddyBigsby 09-14-2004 05:38 PM

Where is it at exactly?

BuddyBigsby 09-14-2004 05:39 PM

Actually wait, it's this Saturday right?

I'm working all day and then going to Misery Signals / PoW at night. Rrg.

shane italian 09-14-2004 05:39 PM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Where is it at exactly?[/QUOTE]Dunno, I need to ask my friend who told me.

xdeadtomorrowx 09-14-2004 06:01 PM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Well, but Minor Threat are old school hardcore (or OG hardcore, as I like to call it), and Hatebreed are metalcore. There really is a difference.[/QUOTE]

Nice post, I believe you get the award for biggest idiot who doesn't know a thing about metalcore if you call Hatebreed metalcore. THANK YOU YOUR IGNORANCE IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

xdeadtomorrowx 09-14-2004 06:08 PM

[QUOTE=cbmartinez24]Poison the Well is going on tour with DEP. That should be cool. But I'm still crying over Derek leaving.[/QUOTE]

Wow and you've got no musical taste at all. How about crying how DMITRI, DEP's old singer left and now they've got this new guy who can't touch DMITRI...Most likely I butchered his name but w/e you get the jist of it.

Now if anyone has questions about hardcore/metalcore/grind/emocore/screamo your questions should be directed to me. And some of you might think "who does this guy think he is" I know my crap about these genres and if you let me explain it I can show you so easily but I hate ignorant kids honestly.

Let's Chop Cats! 09-14-2004 06:09 PM

So you hate yourself?

mikewhat 09-14-2004 06:11 PM

wow. the kid likes ptw. big ****ing deal. jackass.

xdeadtomorrowx 09-14-2004 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=mikewhat]wow. the kid likes ptw. big ****ing deal. jackass.[/QUOTE]

I don't see why when they are the biggest sack of crap ever since they released stuff after "The Opposite of December" and it wasn't the same. Heh, face it, PTW needs to call it quits immediately. They've sold out enough for one band..And changed members enough for two.

shane italian 09-14-2004 06:19 PM

[QUOTE=xdeadtomorrowx]I don't see why when they are the biggest sack of crap ever since they released stuff after "The Opposite of December" and it wasn't the same. Heh, face it, PTW needs to call it quits immediately. They've sold out enough for one band..And changed members enough for two.[/QUOTE]I think I just came up with a ground breaking concept! PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT TASTES!

Oh and Hatebreed are metalcore.

xdeadtomorrowx 09-14-2004 06:21 PM

[QUOTE=shane italian]I think I just came up with a ground breaking concept! PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT TASTES!

Oh and Hatebreed are metalcore.[/QUOTE]


HAHAHA, ooooooookay... Prove to me, how are they metalcore? So if you call Hatebreed metalcore, then so is Throwdown and every other tough guy band that tunes low and has vocals like that. And I assure you, that's lots of bands buddy. Just keep it down before I burn your ***.

Hatebreed isn't metalcore. Metalcore isn't just about breakdowns and drop D tuning, there's more to it. There's more metaphoric speaking in their lyrics more like emo I guess and it's not so straight foward. I can go into further detail and shame you all if you wish.

Let's Chop Cats! 09-14-2004 06:22 PM

Metalcore tends to be more Drop C. Throwdown is metalcore.

shane italian 09-14-2004 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=xdeadtomorrowx]HAHAHA, ooooooookay... Prove to me, how are they metalcore? So if you call Hatebreed metalcore, then so is Throwdown and every other tough guy band that tunes low and has vocals like that. And I assure you, that's lots of bands buddy. Just keep it down before I burn your ***.

Hatebreed isn't metalcore. Metalcore isn't just about breakdowns and drop D tuning, there's more to it. There's more metaphoric speaking in their lyrics more like emo I guess and it's not so straight foward. I can go into further detail and shame you all if you wish.[/QUOTE]Sorry to break it to you but Throwdown don't sound exactly like Hatebreed. They don't Chug their way through a song.

P.S. Maybe I should update the lists.

xdeadtomorrowx 09-14-2004 06:24 PM

[QUOTE=shane italian]Sorry to break it to you but Throwdown don't sound exactly like Hatebreed. They don't Chug their way through a song.[/QUOTE]

First off, who said they were exactly alike? Second off I was just stating the fact that both of them have the drop tuning with chugging and breakdowns. That doesn't make them metalcore at all.

xdeadtomorrowx 09-14-2004 06:25 PM

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]Metalcore tends to be more Drop C. Throwdown is metalcore.[/QUOTE]

Throwdown is not metalcore you idiot. So what if their new album makes them seem metalcore? They aren't. Metalcore doesn't talk about straight edge, they are tough guy, their lyrics prove it. Metalcore isn't in Drop C. It might sound like it but it's mostly in Drop D.

shane italian 09-14-2004 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=xdeadtomorrowx]First off, who said they were exactly alike? Second off I was just stating the fact that both of them have the drop tuning with chugging and breakdowns. That doesn't make them metalcore at all.[/QUOTE]Listen to pre-Haymaker TD, sorry but I don't hear nothing but chugs.

xdeadtomorrowx 09-14-2004 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=shane italian]Listen to pre-Haymaker TD, sorry but I don't hear nothing but chugs.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, hence why they AREN'T METALCORE. Metalcore chugs in some parts just during breakdowns but thats it man, the rest isn't like that. Hatebreed isn't metalcore, they don't have comprehensive[if they are to you or not regardless] riffs like metalcore does. Metalcore doesn't have lyrics like that, they don't dress [although it seems fashionxcore, you can tell] like metalcore kids and don't act like them either. Do you see kids doing spin kicks in Hatebreed videos? NOPE!!!!! ALL OLD SCHOOL DANCING WHICH MEANS WHAT? THEY ARE TOUGH GUY...THANKS.

mikewhat 09-14-2004 06:35 PM

anyone who thinks throwdown and hatebreed is metalcore are idiots.

shane italian 09-14-2004 06:35 PM

[QUOTE=xdeadtomorrowx]Exactly, hence why they AREN'T METALCORE. Metalcore chugs in some parts just during breakdowns but thats it man, the rest isn't like that. Hatebreed isn't metalcore, they don't have comprehensive[if they are to you or not regardless] riffs like metalcore does. Metalcore doesn't have lyrics like that, they don't dress [although it seems fashionxcore, you can tell] like metalcore kids and don't act like them either. Do you see kids doing spin kicks in Hatebreed videos? NOPE!!!!! ALL OLD SCHOOL DANCING WHICH MEANS WHAT? THEY ARE TOUGH GUY...THANKS.[/QUOTE]I still disagree, but this isn't a big deal. We get the jist of things and these bands are on the edge of both genres. I don't think it's that big of a deal as long as kids aren't freaking out about the HaRdCoRe It Dies Today show they went to last night.

xdeadtomorrowx 09-14-2004 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=shane italian]I still disagree, but this isn't a big deal. We get the jist of things and these bands are on the edge of both genres. I don't think it's that big of a deal as long as kids aren't freaking out about the HaRdCoRe It Dies Today show they went to last night.[/QUOTE]

Granted, that is correct. Kids these days don't know what is what. I mean I saw in these threads that people called hopesfall hardcore. .hopesfall. is emocore just like life in your way. kthnxbye.

I mean It Dies Today already sold out cause they got on trustkill. Most bands that are on there are gayyy...Do you know that if a band makes a certain quota on the album sales they get automatically bumped up to Sony because of the deal Trustkill and Sony made, thats why Eighteen Vision is on a major now.

mikewhat 09-14-2004 06:41 PM

[QUOTE=xdeadtomorrowx]

I mean It Dies Today already sold out cause they got on trustkill. [/QUOTE]


joke?

xdeadtomorrowx 09-14-2004 06:42 PM

[QUOTE=mikewhat]joke?[/QUOTE]

Hah, no, listen to their new stuff and now their old. It's more soft in their new stuff, and like I said, Trustkill is a part of Sony now so they make the bands downgrade I bet. I mean It Dies Today wasn't doing that bad either in the genre, they were okay, generic but okay none the less.

shane italian 09-14-2004 06:42 PM

[QUOTE=xdeadtomorrowx]Granted, that is correct. Kids these days don't know what is what. I mean I saw in these threads that people called hopesfall hardcore. .hopesfall. is emocore just like life in your way. kthnxbye.

I mean It Dies Today already sold out cause they got on trustkill. Most bands that are on there are gayyy...Do you know that if a band makes a certain quota on the album sales they get automatically bumped up to Sony because of the deal Trustkill and Sony made, thats why Eighteen Vision is on a major now.[/QUOTE]I'm not that into 18V, especially after the new CD. But I can dig the new ITD only because I'm a bitch about the poppy psuedo-metalcore.

That deal with Trustkill is weird, I would only mind if WOJ or Terror got bumped because of show issues. But Sworn Enemy is on Elektra and they still get around to playing small venues.


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