Kage, you're totally going to have a lucid dream tonight. I mean, all of this talk, you're bound to have one something, y'know? :)

Wow, talk about a thread tangent. I guess this is at least partially Tool related, as Tool delve into metaphysics in a number of their songs. :p

I meditated for the first time in a while before I went to bed last night. I might make it a ritual to work out, meditate, and then go to sleep and try to lucid dream or project.

I've lucid dream't but I can't remember what it was like. It was somthing like Txus's though.

It seems like us Tool fans are really into gorey things, for some reason. Death, killing, zombies, etc...:p

Aah.. I hate it when I wake up from a dream that feels so real that I get the "aww, it wasn't real?" feeling.. It happens way too much...

I wasn't talking about the death aspect necessarily because I don't remember it, just the controlling/realization part. I was jumping around and stuff.

The lingering feelings are wierd though. I mean it's like you're actually affected by it and just sometimes makes you feel horrible.

My friend said he had a dream where we were playing tag with javelins.......

Are any of you familiar with H.P. Lovecraft or Robert Jordan?

I've read some of Lovecraft's stuff. He's definitely very eccentric. I love the creatures he comes up with.

I'm thinking more of his Dream Cycle. Stories like "The White Ship," "Beyond the Wall of Sleep," and "The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath."

And in bringing up Robert Jordan, I'm thinking of the Wheel of Time series.

In both cases, there's a dream world.

It was The Wheel of Time in particular which rekindled my interest in lucid dreaming. Several of the characters in the book are capable of entering a dream world while they sleep which perfectly mirrors the real world, but allows you to reshape yourself and reality (to an extent) around you.

Lovecraft and I share a fascination with dream worlds. King is my preferred author, though, even though I realize the two are quite different, King is obviously influenced by Lovecraft in more than one way.

I haven't read as much Lovecraft as I should, so I'll look into the stories you're talking about.

Lovecraft stories are a tough read.. But his ideas are really genious, so it's worth it

There's nothing better than reading mind-bending fiction... I've found that it has expanded, in my mind, the possibilities of reality. As ironic as that sounds, it [I]does [/I] help you respect unexplained energies that do not exist in the laws of nature. It probably shouldn't have that type of effect on me due to the lack of scientific base of it, but it works nonetheless, I feel.

I need to check out some of that stuff. Sounds great. Wheel of Time sounds like a good place to start. Maybe I'll ask my mom to swing by the library and look for something of that kind.

Wheel of Time is actually high fantasy.

I love Lovecraft. I've read the short Stories book. Some of the best stuff I've ever read.

The Outsider is brilliant.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]It seems like us Tool fans are really into gorey things, for some reason. Death, killing, zombies, etc...:p[/QUOTE]

No most of my lucid dreams involve relationships, or just doing ordianry things like cycling and stuff. I think they normally happen because i spend hours thinking just before i go to bed about all the stuff that eneds thinking about, and it kinda just merges into the dream. It's quite annoying when the dream feels so realistic though, they difinateley affect me IRL.

I've never listened to Tool before. What do they sound like and what's a good introduction album?

Hmm, they are a hard rock/prog metal band. They could be compared to bands like chevelle, who play less technical/spacey versions of the tool sound. But they can also be compared to bands like Dredg who create great atmosphere in their music.

I'd reccomend Aenima as a starter album and most of this thread will agree.

But it is difficult to say what tool soud like because there are really no other bands like them.

[QUOTE=clearvision]Hmm, they are a hard rock/prog metal band. They could be compared to bands like chevelle, who play less technical/spacey versions of the tool sound. But they can also be compared to bands like Dredg who create great atmosphere in their music.

I'd reccomend Aenima as a starter album and most of this thread will agree.

But it is difficult to say what tool soud like because there are really no other bands like them.[/QUOTE]

I'm a prog fan so I'll most likely like them.

It is quite likeley, though they aren't the standard prog you hear.

I always use amazon to sample albums...

[url]www.amazon.com[/url]

They give you 30sec clips of all the songs.

[QUOTE=clearvision]It is quite likeley, though they aren't the standard prog you hear.

I always use amazon to sample albums...

[url]www.amazon.com[/url]

They give you 30sec clips of all the songs.[/QUOTE]

Cheers.

[QUOTE=clearvision]It is quite likeley, though they aren't the standard prog you hear.

I always use amazon to sample albums...

[url]www.amazon.com[/url]

They give you 30sec clips of all the songs.[/QUOTE]

They aren't working for me. Could you send one song through a you-send-it link to my e-mail address?

I've lucid dreamed before on a few occasions, but I have a terrible sleeping pattern anyway, and suffer from mild insomnia sometimes. Being half awake and half asleep is sometimes pretty easy for me. Especially on a morning when I go back to sleep after being woken up too early.

I havn't had an actual lucid dream for a while though.

This dreaming stuff, I'm highly suspecious of people who say they can control it. I know some people have been known to lucid dream every night, but I think it's just how their psychological state is made up, most people simply can't, and some people will [i]never[/i] lucid dream. Or should I say, at least remember lucid dreaming.

I gave up on meditation years ago for being too hokey, even though I had a weird experience with it. Although I think that may have been due to lack of oxygen, I think I actually stopped breathing and had a weird little vision thing. I felt like I was floating slightly, but it definately felt due to oxygen loss rather than anything internal or mystical.

My coolest lucid dreams that I can remember are.. being able to turn into different animals, ie: My dog, and then a crow, and flying around. And realising I was dreaming and flying around my neighbourhood and being really strong and stuff.

Edit: To the guy who said he couldn't look up while waking up from his dream, I know the feeling. At first, you're in this dream world that dosn't feel like you've constructed it. And as you're waking up, you start to be able to manipulate yourself within it, and I guess the world itself, though by that point, I feel like I'm imagining the world and creating it in my head anyway, and can feel my body in the real world, etc. and it becomes less vivid. One the control shifts from your unconscious to your conscious you come back to reality. Somewhere in between is just nice, though.

Can someone link me to good sites for beginners with astral projection? I've want to read up on some of that stuff before I get my own place next year. Thanks.

/off topic, but since when are you guys on it :p

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]i like that show :D


was it like the TOoL logo, or was it like a derogatory term like "dont be a tool"[/QUOTE]
Uh... It's a film. It's a documentary about the school that School of Rock was based on.
I'm pretty sure the guy who runs it was slagging Tool. I still find it funny...

Hey just wondering [SIZE=7]is there anyway to get the clip of danny and justin at the grammys?[/SIZE] theres a screen cap on toolband.com but does anyone have the clip on their computer or know somewhere online where i can get it? i'd be eternally grateful if someone replies and i shall shower you with blessings :lol: :thumb:

[QUOTE=A pig in a cage on antibiotics]Hey just wondering [SIZE=7]is there anyway to get the clip of danny and justin at the grammys?[/SIZE] theres a screen cap on toolband.com but does anyone have the clip on their computer or know somewhere online where i can get it? i'd be eternally grateful if someone replies and i shall shower you with blessings :lol: :thumb:[/QUOTE]

I've been looking for this for awhile too, actually. Hopefully, someone can supply us with the goods.

[QUOTE=satchforever]I've been looking for this for awhile too, actually. Hopefully, someone can supply us with the goods.[/QUOTE]

Try the Grammy Site. :thumb:

EDIT(say that you...) [URL=http://www.deftone.com/archives/2002/03/tool_update]Grammy Acceptance Speech... cough*not video*cough[/URL]

[QUOTE=Prince of Darkness]Try the Grammy Site. :thumb:

EDIT(say that you...) [URL=http://www.deftone.com/archives/2002/03/tool_update]Grammy Acceptance Speech... cough*not video*cough[/URL][/QUOTE]
:lol: at the Maynard quotes at the bottom of the page.

[QUOTE=Mizuzack]They aren't working for me. Could you send one song through a you-send-it link to my e-mail address?[/QUOTE]

I could probable manage to send you Aenima, the album, in an email at reduced quality if you posted it, if i don't someone else will.

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]Can someone link me to good sites for beginners with astral projection? I've want to read up on some of that stuff before I get my own place next year. Thanks.

/off topic, but since when are you guys on it :p[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/?BoardID=65[/url]

Some of Robert Bruce's work. I've learned tons from that site. It's a good place to start.

Also, is it just me, or does Maynard sound like the singer from Incubus in the song Eulogy?