I really, really want to try projecting... I may try Lucid dreaming tonight, but I have no idea how to start.

[QUOTE=Moses]Okay, well Steerpike, what do you think about Lucid Dreaming and Astral Projection and things like that? That is if you're still on.[/QUOTE]

I'm actually attempting to start lucid dreaming next week.

The trick discussed in the thread over at Politics was to make a habit of drawing a black dot on your palm and periodically look at it. Eventually, that habit will carry over into your dreams and when you don't see it, you'll realize you're dreaming.

I figure if nothing else, it'll give me a nice mental theater to rehearse my *ahem* social skills.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I really like a lot of Alex Grey's artwork. A lot of it looks similiar, but he really has an extremely unique style. (Duh)

Moses- Have you ever tried Lucid dreaming, or projecting?[/QUOTE]
I actually thought I was going to project once. It was during the summer and I felt all the sensations you're supposed to feel but I pulled myself out of it. I haven't tried Lucid Dreaming yet but I think I'll look into it.

Also Steerpike I remember reading about that dot trick.

Steerpike, I asked in teh *seether* thread if you liked Tool. Well, do you?

All I know about lucid dreaming is, that ever since the first time I read an article about it (I think, a little more than a year ago), I've remembered several dreams every night.... Some of them seeming more than several days long.. It's quite scary at times..

I tried doing the whole dot thing, but I got sick of looking at it..:-/ I'm not tr00 to my cause, heh.

My significant other is a really mystic person and she has a passion for fantasy and things of that sort. She said sometimes she makes a story up in her head before she goes to sleep and then has a dream of it that night if she really tries hard enough. I mean she doesn't do this often but it has happened before.

Well I'm off to meditation and bed.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Hey, idea! What Tool songs can you play on your chosen insturment?

Guitar:
Part of Me
Sweat
Hush

Sober

Stinkfist
46&2
Push it

The Grudge
Eon Blue Apocolypselol
Ticks & Leeches
Lateralus

I know lots of other bits and peices(including most of The Patient, Parabol/a, and Schism), but those are the songs that I could more or less play live.[/QUOTE]

Guitar

Part of Me
Cold and Ugly
Jerk-Off

Intolerance
Sober
4 Degrees

Stinkfist
Eulogy
Aenima

Schizm
Parabol/a
Lateralus
Ticks and Leeches

[QUOTE=Moses]Steerpike, I asked in teh *seether* thread if you liked Tool. Well, do you?[/QUOTE]

It's growing on me.

What's are you listening to by them so far?

Hey,i have a question bout lucid dreaming, Iv done it(weather intentionaly or not) and found that though im aware im dreaming in most circumstances i find i have no real control so for any of those who have achived it did yea find this aswell?

[QUOTE=Moses]What's are you listening to by them so far?[/QUOTE]

Mostly the most well-known songs, the easiest to get ahold of. Schism, Parabola, that sort of thing.

Get The Grudge, that song is just so awesome... Lateralus to.

[QUOTE=Red Cow]Hey,i have a question bout lucid dreaming, Iv done it(weather intentionaly or not) and found that though im aware im dreaming in most circumstances i find i have no real control so for any of those who have achived it did yea find this aswell?[/QUOTE]

Partially lucid. Most people have plenty of those. I just had my first lucid dream in recent recollection, and I basically had complete control. Changing the environment, making my own actions, etc..

Alex- Glad to see you're starting to like them. You should try to download all of Lateralus. :)

I can play any Tool song on my guitar. (doubt I could on drums). Hell, I wouldn't have a prayer on the drums. I can't play complex polyrythms.

[QUOTE]Alex- Glad to see you're starting to like them. You should try to download all of Lateralus. [/QUOTE]

Opiate - aggressive rock bordering on metal
Undertow - dark, haunting rock with poor recording quality
Aenima - ambient hard rock/ prog
Lateralus - hard prog rock all the way

This is my non-biased take on all of their albums. Now with that said, Aenima is my favorite because I feel that the longer/ambient tracks are more enjoyable than the longer/ambient tracks on Lateralus. Push!t and THird Eye are better than, say, Reflection and Lateralus IMO.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Partially lucid. Most people have plenty of those. I just had my first lucid dream in recent recollection, and I basically had complete control. Changing the environment, making my own actions, etc..[/QUOTE]
Was it just completely awesome? Or not really any big deal? I seem to suck at this kind of stuff..I've been trying to lucid dream for a couple weeks with no results. One time, I was dreaming, and I kept looking at the clock and the time would be substantially different each time I looked at it. And I said to myself, "hey, I"m dreaming, I'm dreaming, I'm dreaming" at which point I felt myself begin to wake up, followed by a weird sensation of spiraling downward into a portal (think Alice in Wonderland or something), and then I woke up on the floor screaming. The screaming could've been in the dream, but it felt like I actually screamed.

I almost cried in mine. Here's what I remember

I killed a guy 13 times, because my parents told me to do so, or so I thought. After I killed him, I went back to my parents, and they told me I was only supposed to give him nitrous(laughing gas), which incidentally was the last way I killed him. Then, I told myself to wake up, and I did, but I still had that lingering feeling of "oh crap, I killed a guy!" Then I woke up again. I was having a lucid dream within a dream, I guess.

Haha, that's some dream. I know exactly what you mean by that "lingering feeling." I usually have that right after I wake up from a dream. It can work in the other direction, too, like "awesome, I can't wait to see my really hot and cool girlfriend."

And then...not.

:lol: I'd rather have a bad lingering feeling, because the realization that your dream wasn't real once you awake is really quite the kick to the nuts. :-/

I had a dream I found a bunch of gold once. How greedy am I? :p

Hahaha. I've had the dream a couple times where I kill someone as well. Then I wake up, and I know that I'll be going to jail in a few hours and have to face my family. :lol:

I really want to lucid dream, though, da[font=]mn[/font] it!

I can only remember my dreams occassionally. And I'll tell you, it's pretty f[size=2]u[/size]cked up.

The most recent one was last spring. I was getting all psyched because I had just seen the trailer for Land of the Dead, and that night I had a dream that I was on the set for a Romero zombie movie. It was in a hospital waiting room, then the zombies broke in and turned out to be real zombies instead of actors.

When I found that out, I ran like hell and hid in a bathroom stall. The crazy thing is, it worked and the zombies left without noticing me.

Go to bed early, seriously. Twice last week, I went to bed at like 7:30-8 and I had lucid dreams both nights. If you have more time to rest your mind, you have more of an opportunity to be half-awake and thus lucid dream.

Also, talking about it, and reading about it will give you a higher probability of making something happen. Yesterday, I talked and read about a bunch of metaphysical stuff, and poof, I had a lucid dream. :)

I wonder if smoking weed has any effect on lucid dreaming?

I control dreams all the time, I had one where Kuppa was stealing my bike on top of Walmart. But the Mario Bros. Pop'd out of a tube on the top of Walmart (they even made the "bwitahbwitah" sound. So anyway I turned into rambo "looking like a mix between NES and movie" and started bustin caps in Koopa till he handed over my bike.....Than my mom woke me up.

When i was younger i REALLY wanted to go on "bozo the clown show", so i dreamed i was a contestant. A month later....i got on the show in real life :O it was amazing, I even got his autograph :eek:

I had one last week, All of a sudden I was in this musky hotel-like room. There was another person in there. I don't know how I knew, but this was a bad person. Next I believe that I shot him, or someone did, but I have no recollection of this act, but it'll make a little more sense in another line or two.

The person is lying dead on the bed, at least I thought he was dead. All of a sudden the body moves. I take a step towards it and it starts to move more. I get freaked THEN it sits up and starts doin' some Evil Dead-ish stuff & that's when I can't take it anymore.

I start to run out of the room. On my way out, I see an end table with a GUN & a pack of cigarettes on it. I remember thinking, "I should really grab that gun." But I kept on running out of the room & down the long hall.

Now remember, I'm still dreaming at this point.

I get half-way down the hall when I hear the commotion coming out of the room I just left in my wake.

I was so effen scared that I remember thinking very clearly, "THIS IS SO ****IN' SCARY THAT IT CANNOT BE REAL!!!!!"

Instantly, I'm lucid dreaming. The commotion is gone, the demon is gone, my fear of anything is gone...all in a flash.

I continue to run down the hall though, cuz it seemed fun. I reach the end of the hall & come to a stairway. I believe that I was on the fourth floor. I looked at the steps & decided to JUMP all the way down the middle of the stairs. I land like a cat. I open the exit door and run down the street. All this time, all I really can see is down at my feet. For some reason I really can't look up. So I make it two, three blocks & wake up.

I'd really like to try these things, but the weekends would have to be the only time.

Txus, that sounds like a lot of fun...I want to lucid dream really badly. The possibilites seem endless.

[QUOTE=Kage]Txus, that sounds like a lot of fun...I want to lucid dream really badly. The possibilites seem endless.[/QUOTE]
It's really amazing, like you can see by my usertitle i'm still a n00b at this but it's really great scary sometimes but it's a new experience everytime. :cool:

I think the first time I was entering lucidity, I got too excted/scared and woke up before I was fully lucid. I remember just being very afraid as I felt that spiraling feeling (as stated in one of my previous posts) and my body just knocked awake.

[QUOTE=Kage][B]I think the first time I was entering lucidity, I got too excted/scared and woke up before I was fully lucid.[/B] I remember just being very afraid as I felt that spiraling feeling (as stated in one of my previous posts) and my body just knocked awake.[/QUOTE]

Happens all the time with me. It's so frustrating.