Well i'd be able to play more fluently in the song i think if theyre was an actually tempo and time sig i could stick to. But there isnt so it's kinda hard to play to.

Jay reckon you could make something up to that?

Give it a go.

[quote=gimp fest;15911615]please don't use the term emo in this context[/quote]

You dont want me to use a music genre in a musical context?

What the hell?

[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;15911420]kind of ironic.

TGP why did you get kicked out?[/QUOTE]
lol

I love how we've resorted to using "Josiah-Like" as an insult now.

[quote=Drum Phil;15911716]You dont want me to use a music genre in a musical context?

What the hell?[/quote]

using a musical genre to describe a piece of music, when one seemingly doesn't know what said musical genre actually is, is bad times.

i don't wish to argue though so i'm sorry.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;15911276]I find it funny that people will rag on almost any drug but as soon as they give you it in hospital, they forget all about being morally against it.[/QUOTE]
Intention is everything.

There's a difference between "I just snapped my femur someone please stop this pain" and "hey I'm bored lets get [size=2]f[/size]ucked up"

You do know sh[I]i[/I]t is supposed to come from your arse right?

So far as im concerned, the track sounded like every other scene/emo band in the country.

Arguing about genres is moronic at the best of times. Especially when you werent even born when the genre had its time.

[quote=Win A Rabbit;15911770]Intention is everything.

There's a difference between "I just snapped my femur someone please stop this pain" and "hey I'm bored lets get [SIZE=2]f[/SIZE]ucked up"[/quote]

True. I was thinking more of the people who aquire things illegally for pain at the time though.

I mean, those people intend to use it for the same reason as hospitals, but hospitals wont give them it.

Whats so wrong with that?

[quote=the_pure_drummer;15911708]Well i'd be able to play more fluently in the song i think if theyre was an actually tempo and time sig i could stick to. But there isnt so it's kinda hard to play to.

Jay reckon you could make something up to that?

Give it a go.[/quote]

send me the track without drums and i'll do it up

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;15911778]True. I was thinking more of the people who aquire things illegally for pain at the time though.

I mean, those people intend to use it for the same reason as hospitals, but hospitals wont give them it.

Whats so wrong with that?[/QUOTE]
tbh if you're in desperate need for illegal drugs to ease your pain, you're probably not going to wander around the streets searching for them.


Experimentation -> Use -> Misuse -> Abuse -> Dependancy

Left side of the scale = positives outweigh negatives
Right side of the scale = negatives outweigh positives

If you're able to stay on the left side, by all means have fun. But if you're slipping into misuse/abuse, you should slow down/stop/reevaluate why you use.

Yeah but how do you define those categories?

I mean, dependancy is obvious, but how do you define the difference between misuse and abuse.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;15911831]Yeah but how do you define those categories?

I mean, dependancy is obvious, but how do you define the difference between misuse and abuse.[/QUOTE]
There's definately grey area between the two.

When I took courses, the way we learned is that misuse is when the positives and negatives are equalled out --- and abuse is when the negatives start to take over \.

Intentions, frequency, etc, all need to be taken into account.

There's a difference between drinking 15 beers to have fun every now and then, and drinking 15 beers to get drunk and pass out every weekend.

I suppose most of its one huge grey area.

I mean, if you intend to get f[I]u[/I]cked up, but know fine well you'll just sit and giggle for several hours, thats surely a positive when compared to people who get messed up and violent.

Using a substance with the intent to get [size=2]f[/size]ucked up is very habit-forming.


The way we measure positives and negatives was to break it up into life areas, most of which I probably forget. But it was things like friendships, family, education, physical health, emotional health, work, money, etc.

Then write positives/negatives for each, and then look at them as a whole and compare. So there's going to be variation between areas, but it's kind of a general result. You don't officially move from misuse to abuse, it happens slowly over time, as your family/friends distance themselves from you, your money runs out, your health runs down, your education/work runs down, etc.

Fair point.

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZmV0vpstxfA[/url]

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;15912025]Fair point.[/QUOTE]
:) A conversation about drugs in the stronghold that didn't end with "you're a loser i hate you."

hi5.



off to work now.

I've had three bowel movements today.

See now, so long as everyone looks at things objectively and doesnt get all hot headed and morally outraged, we can all play nice.

The discussion of Pespi's bowel movements is morally outraging.

Well lets be honest. We've heard enough about pespis bodily functions to be jaded by now.

I'll always be reminded of the spotty cu[I]n[/I]t flap incident.

[QUOTE=the_pure_drummer;15911525][url]http://www.myspace.com/underthefallmyspace[/url]

Hey guys. Just thought i'd throw this up here. The new song siren of jericho is VERY rough. Drums were recorded a few hours ago through a pair of headphones and into audacity. I did the best i could to it with audacity. Some parts off a little off time because the guitarists didnt use a click and had some off moments :\

But id love some feedback.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

i like the idea, but you guys have to just like

do it right.



[QUOTE=Drum Phil;15911545]I wish i didnt listen to that.

I could have taken it straight from the "How to be emo" handbook.[/QUOTE]

oh for god's sake phil, shut the **** up

No.

:)

oh you're so rebellious

What, did you really expect me to listen to a minor?

wow pure your guitarist is really really off-time...like more than i thought when i mentioned it before...i did a really rough track listening through once. A lot of the changes are VERY rough but meh the basic idea is down. It's uploading now

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;15912207]What, did you really expect me to listen to a minor?[/QUOTE]

that does not make sense mr. mazz

Here pure:

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=675783&songID=6219648[/url]

Your band isn't screamo. And it isn't emo either.

:/

yeah i didnt really understand how a band with no vox could be screamo

someone beat me


[img]http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9191/miniputtlr6.png[/img]

[url]http://www.addictinggames.com/miniputt.html[/url]

Yeh vocals havent been layed down yet.

Next week hopefull will lya those 2 songs down wid teh vocals :)


Were not really "screamo" as such but the guitarist screams like but the lead singer is female and sings well :)

Jay i like the intro :) I think ill redo it.

Id like some help though on how to get the best recording of my kit though.

Any ideas anyone?

[QUOTE=As The Roots Undo;15912178]i like the idea, but you guys have to just like

do it right.





oh for god's sake phil, shut the **** up[/QUOTE]

Thanks george. Yeh this song was written a looong time ago. A few months back now before christmas and it's been up on myspace all that time so i just said to the guitarist ill hit some drums up on there rough and see what it turnsour like. Not too bad i dont think. Still rough though.

Ill get them to redo it though :)

I keep breaking the game on hole 10 :(

i just lost the ****ing game

thanks phil...

fck you jonny you don't have to report it...now i lost too.

[quote=Chippy569;15912283]someone beat me


[IMG]http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9191/miniputtlr6.png[/IMG]

[url]http://www.addictinggames.com/miniputt.html[/url][/quote]

i got 12...

on just hole 14:(

Holy **** Chippy! How??

[QUOTE=the_pure_drummer;15912318]Yeh vocals havent been layed down yet.

Next week hopefull will lya those 2 songs down wid teh vocals :)


Were not really "screamo" as such but the guitarist screams like but the lead singer is female and sings well :)

Jay i like the intro :) I think ill redo it.

Id like some help though on how to get the best recording of my kit though.

Any ideas anyone?[/QUOTE]


Drum mics in a studio lol.

But seriously Do it with some real mics anythings better than headphones)

Redo the whole song. Make the whole band re track it

[IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/enemytopublic/miniputt-37.jpg[/IMG]

My best so far. The slope holes pwn me

[QUOTE=oliv_da_skinmasher;15912495]Drum mics in a studio lol.

But seriously Do it with some real mics anythings better than headphones)

Redo the whole song. Make the whole band re track it[/QUOTE]

I think once we have 4 songs down guitar bass vocals and drums roughly were gonna plough into a studio and get them done the best we can.

But for now headphones it is ;)

Yeah seems fair. But really that drum recordin sucked(sound wise)

And yeah you should go to a studio, only alot of good UK studios are expensive esspesially if you want a good producer, which of course you do to get a good sound