Sooo...I just tried my new 16" crash with the old 18" crash, the only difference between them is the 16" crash has Projection crash written on it and the other doesnt....and the new one sounds crap!!! its like banging on a radiator :(

Where have I gone wrong?!

You got zildjians, that's the first mistake :p

j/k I just don't like zils. Hmm what serie is the 18"?

You didnt try it before it you bought it didnt you.

Ok, heres my situation right now, and I need help. Ok I currently have a Mapex M series, Kit, With One Zilco Ride/crash, No hi ahts or anytihng just that for a cymbal (I jsut bought the set) and Im wondeirng weather I should save for months to buy a Custom K Dark Crash, and A Sabian Neil PeartParagon Ride, and New Beats or Just buy a ZBT pack (Or B8 probably the B8s) and then just start saving after that? caues if I boguht a cheap beginners pack, Id have somthing to play on, if I saved up, Id ahve better cymbals quicker, but it would be a LONG time before I got those cymbals, and until then Id have nothing to play with. What do I do???????

Get the New Beats....

frankly if you needed something to play on, buy cymbal pads or cheap *** brass cymbals. Ask around, you can probably get these for free from somebody.

But get the New Beats

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]if you have no idea on what ride to get, just get some new beats[/QUOTE]
i just got them fer xmas :thumb:

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]i worship thee[/QUOTE]
Don't worship me, worship my NEW BEATS.

:cool:

Literally, they are "new" and I can play "beats" with them. What an apt name.

ha ha

[QUOTE=The Dropper]Don't worship me, worship my NEW BEATS.

:cool:

Literally, they are "new" and I can play "beats" with them. What an apt name.[/QUOTE]
Hence the name ;)

I'm looking to buy a whole new line of cymbals. I'm on no budget so don't worry, the cymbals I want are

14" Hi-Hats

20" or 21" Ride

10" Splash

18" or 20" China

16" Crash

18" Crash

I want to find some with the best sounds at the best price. :D thanks for all your help. (links to websites wouldn't hurt) thanks again. :D

[QUOTE=Headless Jackyl]I'm looking to buy a whole new line of cymbals. I'm on no budget so don't worry, the cymbals I want are

14" Hi-Hats

20" or 21" Ride

10" Splash

18" or 20" China

16" Crash

18" Crash

I want to find some with the best sounds at the best price. :D thanks for all your help. (links to websites wouldn't hurt) thanks again. :D[/QUOTE]
Look into the AAX Stage pack it's all good stuff in there!

[QUOTE=Brokensticks]Look into the AAX Stage pack it's all good stuff in there![/QUOTE]


Awesome. Thanks. What Zildjians would you say are of the same caliber as the AAX?

I don't know I don't buy Zildjian but those AAX's everything in that pack is great! The hats are to die for and very versitile

[QUOTE=Brokensticks]I don't know I don't buy Zildjian but those AAX's everything in that pack is great! The hats are to die for and very versitile[/QUOTE]

ok awesome, I'll look into some Sabian For a change. I'm using Meinl Byzance at the time they are great but I'm not fully satisfied, so I'm looking for better quality/sound. :wave:

[QUOTE=Headless Jackyl]Awesome. Thanks. What Zildjians would you say are of the same caliber as the AAX?[/QUOTE]

Zildjian A Customs maybe. I'm not 100% sure on that though.

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Zildjian A Customs maybe. I'm not 100% sure on that though.[/QUOTE]

That what I was thinking also. But the AAX Hats and ride and crashes are all just great!

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Zildjian A Customs maybe. I'm not 100% sure on that though.[/QUOTE]

I have played A Customs and they were great but I must check out the AAX's. :D Thanks guys. :chug:

[QUOTE=Brokensticks]That what I was thinking also. But the AAX Hats and ride and crashes are all just great![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Headless Jackyl]I have played A Customs and they were great but I must check out the AAX's. :D Thanks guys. :chug:[/QUOTE]

Try out the AAX Stage cymbals.

[QUOTE=Brokensticks]Try out the AAX Stage cymbals.[/QUOTE]
Definitely. I have the AAX stage hats 14" brilliant and stage ride 20" brilliant and they are awesome.

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Definitely. I have the AAX stage hats 14" brilliant and stage ride 20" brilliant and they are awesome.[/QUOTE]

Yah i can't get enough of the hats,.

What would be the best set-ups for

14" Hi-hats
10" Splash
16" and two 18" Crash's
20 or 21" Ride
18 or 20 China

in AAX:

in A Custom:

in Z Custom:

in A & Z Custom: (between the both of them)

which would be the best cymbals.

AAX

14" AAX Stage Hats
16 and 18" AAX Stage Crashes
20" AAX Stage Ride
17" AAXtreme China
10" AA Splash

[QUOTE=Brokensticks]AAX

14" AAX Stage Hats
16 and 18" AAX Stage Crashes
20" AAX Stage Ride
17" AAXtreme China
10" AA Splash[/QUOTE]

you're really the sabian man. :thumb: Awesome. :D

[QUOTE=Brokensticks]AAX

14" AAX Stage Hats
16" AAX stage crash 18"AA medium thin crash
21" AA rock ride
18" AA chinese
10" AA Splash[/QUOTE]

fix'd

zildjian
 

any one know of a quick, trashy, high pitched, zildjian china?




i have zbt's :-/

i'm looking for a good crash cymbal..... no splash sound, good for punk and alternative rock..... good quality....loud

[QUOTE=gErg]any one know of a quick, trashy, high pitched, zildjian china?




i have zbt's :-/[/QUOTE]
16" Oriental China Trash.

What do you guys think about paiste crashes?

i want a crash that makes short crashes (doesnt ring like a ride) more of a rock/metal sound. i have zyldjian ZXT series crash,ride and hi-hats but not totally happy

[QUOTE=Headless Jackyl]What would be the best set-ups for

14" Hi-hats
10" Splash
16" and two 18" Crash's
20 or 21" Ride
18 or 20 China

in AAX:

in A Custom:

in Z Custom:

in A & Z Custom: (between the both of them)

which would be the best cymbals.[/QUOTE]

A Custom-

14" A custom Mastersound hats
10" A custom Splash
16" A custom Crash
18" A custom Crash
18" A custom Medium crash
22" A Custom Ping Ride (it's an amazing ride)
18" A Custom China

[QUOTE=grantpa80]i want a crash that makes short crashes (doesnt ring like a ride) more of a rock/metal sound. i have zyldjian ZXT series crash,ride and hi-hats but not totally happy[/QUOTE]

17" A Custom Crash.

[QUOTE=UndeservingRighteousness]i'm looking for a good crash cymbal..... no splash sound, good for punk and alternative rock..... good quality....loud[/QUOTE]

See above.

[quote=Headless Jackyl]What would be the best set-ups for

14" Hi-hats
10" Splash
16" and two 18" Crash's
20 or 21" Ride
18 or 20 China

in AAX:

in A Custom:

in Z Custom:

in A & Z Custom: (between the both of them)

which would be the best cymbals.[/quote]

AAX 14" Stage Hats
AAX 10" Splash
AAX 16" AAXplosion Crash
AAX 18" Stage Crash
AAX 18" Dark Crash
AAX 21" Metal Ride
AAX 18" CHina

A Custom 14" Hats
A Custom 10" Splash
A Custom 16" Medium Crash
A Custom 18" Projection Crash
A Custom 18" Crash
A Custom 22" Ping Ride (Stay away from A Custom Rides though)

Z Custom 14" Hats
Z Custom 12" Splash (they don't make anythng smaller)
Z Custom 16" Medium Crash
Z Custom 18" Medium Crash
Z Custom 18" Projection Crash
Z Custom 21" Megabell Ride
Z Custom 20" China
(stay away from this whole range though, other than the rides and maybe the chinas)

I'm having trouble decieding between the 22" K Heavy ride and the 22" K Custom ride, which of these do you think is more versatile and would complement 14" A New Beats or Mastersounds the best? Also, any information you could tell me with your own experience with these cymbals is welcome and appreciated.

the K heavy would be more versatile. Its heavier than the K custom.

anyone know the cymbal gigner baker (from cream) uses. they have the little things dangling through them around the edge

Sizzle? Swish knocker?

[QUOTE=grantpa80]i want a crash that makes short crashes (doesnt ring like a ride) more of a rock/metal sound. i have zyldjian ZXT series crash,ride and hi-hats but not totally happy[/QUOTE]

AAXplosion

[QUOTE=grantpa80]i want a crash that makes short crashes (doesnt ring like a ride) more of a rock/metal sound. i have zyldjian ZXT series crash,ride and hi-hats but not totally happy[/QUOTE]

17' AAX stage crash

[QUOTE=forgottenDRUMMER]the K heavy would be more versatile. Its heavier than the K custom.[/QUOTE]Speaking of the K Heavy, what is the Sabian equivalent to that cymbal?? The HH Rock Ride or the HH Heavy Ride??

Oh, and what finish do the HHX crashes come in?? They don't have a choice between brilliant and traditional on massmusic, and I'm thinking they're probably traditional... but I wanna make sure so that other cymbals I order match up.

I beleive HHX are just traditional. K equivalent would probably be the HH heavy

lol... i love how zildjian and sabian cymbals have like the exact matched cymbal as the other company.
of course we all know thats "no coinsidence".