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YouGottaBeCrazy 09-11-2005 10:36 AM

Yeah, I know that, but what I'm saying is, why doesn't he want people to think about the lyrics too much? The lyrics help me further understand what the music is trying to say. I would never listen to a song with great lyrics and terrible music because I consider the music to be more important, but music can't be about something, it can only express a feeling. The lyrics are needed to express what a song is about. Did that make sense?

denboy 09-11-2005 10:37 AM

That guy who did the oklahoma Tool bootleg is working on a multi angle, Dredg bootleg with great sound.. It's gonna be sooo :cool:

Feign 09-11-2005 10:37 AM

[QUOTE=satchforever]You know, I'm watching this video of Maynard interviews, and I'm not exactly sure what he means by something. He says that he's only 1/4th of the importance of the band and I agree with that. He seems to have a problem with people looking at the lyrics, though. What I mean is, he says every song has a type of emotion and the lyrics are just there to reinforce that idea, and that they aren't that important. What I don't get is how he couldn't consider the lyrics as important as the rest of the music. When I hear their songs, it's the lyrics that are basically narrating the emotion and the music (which includes the vocal melodies) is acting out the emotion, so isn't it just as important? I probably just misinterpreted what he said.[/QUOTE]

in no interview does he say hes only 1/4th of the importance of the band, however he does state that he is only 1/4th of the project; Tool. he does not say that the lyrics are not important, however he does say that when people listen to a song, they run straight to the lyrics to figure out what the songs about. they ignore the music. he states that in most bands (this is actually true) the music is made to suit the lyrics, however tool works in the opposite way-- first the music is recorded, then maynard feels the tone of the music and writes lyrics accordingly.

get your facts right bro :thumb:

cheers,
feign.

Syncratic 09-11-2005 10:38 AM

In other news:

The chord progression on "Maynard's Dick" sounds cool on my acoustic.

You can go back to your lives now.

Shadius 09-11-2005 10:40 AM

To add to that, he makes a witty comment about if lyrics were ultimately the most important thing, as some people seem to think, spoken word tours would be sold out.

Otherside 09-11-2005 10:42 AM

I think it's kind of stupid to actually follow Maynard on stuff like that. Personal enjoyment should always override outside opinion.

Listen to it the way you want, the way that causes you to feel the most.

Darkness 09-11-2005 10:43 AM

[QUOTE=satchforever]I don't have a lot to give, but what would you like in return? I'm serious, by the way. This must have took a lot of your time, and I want to repay the favor.[/QUOTE]
You guys are all welcome, and to satchforever... Would you happen to have The Noose live?????? If not, don't worry about it.

YouGottaBeCrazy 09-11-2005 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=Feign]in no interview does he say hes only 1/4th of the importance of the band, however he does state that he is only 1/4th of the project; Tool. he does not say that the lyrics are not important, however he does say that when people listen to a song, they run straight to the lyrics to figure out what the songs about. they ignore the music. he states that in most bands (this is actually true) the music is made to suit the lyrics, however tool works in the opposite way-- first the music is recorded, then maynard feels the tone of the music and writes lyrics accordingly.

get your facts right bro :thumb:

cheers,
feign.[/QUOTE]

Notice how I said that I may have misinterpreted what he said. I wasn't stating it as a fact. Get your facts right bro :thumb: No need to talk to me like that.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 11:05 AM

[QUOTE=satchforever]You know, [B]I'm watching this video of Maynard interviews[/B], and I'm not exactly sure what he means by something. He says that he's only 1/4th of the importance of the band and I agree with that. He seems to have a problem with people looking at the lyrics, though. What I mean is, he says every song has a type of emotion and the lyrics are just there to reinforce that idea, and that they aren't that important. What I don't get is how he couldn't consider the lyrics as important as the rest of the music. When I hear their songs, it's the lyrics that are basically narrating the emotion and the music (which includes the vocal melodies) is acting out the emotion, so isn't it just as important? Without the lyrics, I might get a completely different vibe from a song. I probably just misinterpreted what he said.[/QUOTE]

Do you have it on your computer? if you do, Could you maybe upload it. I really want more interviews...plz :)

Kage 09-11-2005 11:08 AM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]You guys are all welcome, and to satchforever... Would you happen to have The Noose live?????? If not, don't worry about it.[/QUOTE]
Are you aware that there's a video of it available or are you just desperately shooting in the dark?

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 11:18 AM

Fancy telling us where to get that?

Kage 09-11-2005 11:31 AM

Oh...I don't know of one. I was asking him if he did. I've never seen one, even though I, too, would love to see that song live.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 11:43 AM

oh, sorry, misunderstood you there. Yah, I would also like to see that. I'm on the look out for it on torrent sites.

Darkness 09-11-2005 11:45 AM

[QUOTE=Kage]Are you aware that there's a video of it available or are you just desperately shooting in the dark?[/QUOTE]
The answer is yes. A video does exist of it live. I saw a clip of it once... ment to get the whole thing but something went wrong with my internet... can't remember where I saw it though, and its been haunting me ever since.

Kage 09-11-2005 11:48 AM

Was it a good quality video? If it is, then I'll be on the look for it.

Darkness 09-11-2005 11:49 AM

Yeah it was pretty good, wasn't the best. Sound was top notch, video a little fuzzed.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 11:50 AM

DoG, My connection is fkin' fast, broadband, 354kbps. It just bombs everytime. I goes at around 40-50kbps download rate. wtf. it's crazy. Any advise?

Darkness 09-11-2005 11:53 AM

Very strange, does it cut out every once in a while? I know my friends broadband does that, and it messes his downloads sometimes. I use cable, and nothing like that ever happens to me.

Dr. Jake Destructo 09-11-2005 11:54 AM

[QUOTE=Feign]sorry bro, its just that the two posts were about two completely different topics. i will try n avoid it as much as i can though.

do you guys know the tool song "Merbaka"?

aparently its egyptology and more ironically mentioned in a book called "Ægypt". im guessing thats where maynard got the blue prints for Ænema.

anyways, back to merbaka. its a form of early egyption meditation which helps one align his Mind (Mer*), Body(Ba*) & Soul (Ka*).

*(In Egyption).

in some of tool's concerts you can often see maynard sitting on the floor cross legged with both eyes closed while the rest of the band gives birth to a screaming sound.

cheers,

Feign.[/QUOTE]


Merkaba is just another "vehicle" into the realm of the metaphysical. So basically, it's just another peice of proof that Tool is definitely big on metaphysics and the like.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 11:56 AM

you see, my pc's internet kicks out every once in a while, but when I started downloading it on my brother's pc, it bombed at the same place. 280/300mb.hmm. Do you have part 2 of the show, DoG?

Darkness 09-11-2005 11:57 AM

Man that really sucks... perhaps its YSI? I can try on that megaupload thing if I really have to. And yes, I do have part 2.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 12:02 PM

Ah, sh!t man, I don't want to waste your time, If it's too much of a hastle, DoG, don't worry about it. But thanks, if you tend to do it.I'll reward your a$$ like hell.

Darkness 09-11-2005 12:04 PM

I may as well try, I don't have anything planned for the next 3 hours.

Edit: Dam[COLOR=White]n[/COLOR]! Megaupload only allows 250 mbs... this is 700. :(

Dr. Jake Destructo 09-11-2005 12:04 PM

Try finding a better place in your house to put your computer. Maybe your signal kicks out because you have your wireless "box" in a bad place.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 12:08 PM

omg, thanks. I''ll give anything you want.BTW, I'm still looking for that The Noose live thingy. maybe you should upload Part 2 instead, as other user want it aswell. Thanks.
omg thanks.(to Darkness of Greed)

EDIT: Dr. Jake: How did you know we had wireless? :confused:

Darkness 09-11-2005 12:10 PM

Sorry man, read my edit.

Hm. Part 2 is only 450 mbs, I could YSI that one, and you'd probably get all of it right?

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 12:13 PM

ok...but try YSI with part 2(if you want, no pressure), 'cause everyone else's downloads worked. It's just mine.Yah. Your disiscion(sp?)

Dr. Jake Destructo 09-11-2005 12:14 PM

You said you had broadband, right?

I'm so totally going to my friend's house to download these. :giddy:

Darkness 09-11-2005 12:17 PM

YSIing part 2 now...

And don't bother Jake, I'm mailing the dvd as we speak. :p

Oh and how bout some of that rep you got to give out there Jake? :D

I'm tired of being in the negatives. :upset:

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]You said you had broadband, right?

I'm so totally going to my friend's house to download these. :giddy:[/QUOTE]

Yah, but is Broadband=wireless?

EDIT: ^ thanks, man. What's the setlist for Part 2?


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