Things are indeed better when you're on drugs. But they're worse than they were before, when the high wears off.

To reiterate a point that the late Bill Hicks made...well...do I even need to say it?

There are nothing wrong with drugs if used responsibly. Obviously, if you're a junkie, you're an idiot, but there is nothing wrong with recreational use. It's enlightening, to say the least, and there is nothing that pisses me off more than people who've never so much as puffed a joint bringing their condescending attitude saying things like "I don't need drugs to have a good time" near me.

I don't need drugs to have a good time either, hell, I don't need music to have a good time, but that doesn't stop me from listening to it when I can. It's something enjoyable, recreational, and the fact that the government has deemed it illegal is completely irrelevant.

Any problems that stem from drug use is not the drugs themselves, it's the people that use them, and that's FACT, period.

I dont do drugs. It's just something I dont do.

Nothing wrong with that either. I don't tell people who [I]don't[/I] do drugs that they're stupid, because they aren't. It's just a choice.

It's like taking cheese on your whopper. It costs a bit more, it's far superior, but some people just don't like it.

Yeah, I dont go out of my way to say "OMG Smoking makes you a retarded addict!". Different strokes for different folks.

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]To reiterate a point that the late Bill Hicks made...well...do I even need to say it?

There are nothing wrong with drugs if used responsibly. Obviously, if you're a junkie, you're an idiot, but there is nothing wrong with recreational use. It's enlightening, to say the least, and there is nothing that pisses me off more than people who've never so much as puffed a joint bringing their condescending attitude saying things like "I don't need drugs to have a good time" near me.

I don't need drugs to have a good time either, hell, I don't need music to have a good time, but that doesn't stop me from listening to it when I can. It's something enjoyable, recreational, and the fact that the government has deemed it illegal is completely irrelevant.

Any problems that stem from drug use is not the drugs themselves, it's the people that use them, and that's FACT, period.[/QUOTE]

Paronidd is pro when it comes to summing up an issue. :thumb:

Unfortunately, with the exception of drinking, I've had the propoganda so drilled into me that I literally get freaked out when in the presence of drugs. I wish I could just choose not to use them and be chill with the people that do, but I have a seriously weird phobia about it. My breathing tenses up even when just faced with hard liquor and I feel like I'd rather not associate with the people that are doing it, and even hearing them talking about how awesome it was annoys me. I'm not sure if it's a flaw or what, but I wish I was a little more relaxed. I hope I'm not the only person who feels that way, because it's a peculiar condition. Maybe experience will cure this phobia, but as it is it's a very strange and unpleasent problem I've got.

[QUOTE=Ripper22]Unfortunately, with the exception of drinking, I've had the propoganda so drilled into me that I literally get freaked out when in the presence of drugs. I wish I could just choose not to use them and be chill with the people that do, but I have a seriously weird phobia about it. My breathing tenses up even when just faced with hard liquor and I feel like I'd rather not associate with the people that are doing it, and even hearing them talking about how awesome it was annoys me. I'm not sure if it's a flaw or what, but I wish I was a little more relaxed. I hope I'm not the only person who feels that way, because it's a peculiar condition. Maybe experience will cure this phobia, but as it is it's a very strange and unpleasent problem I've got.[/QUOTE]
Thats not a very strange problem. I used to be that way. Don't worry about it man.

Anyway, like Paranoidd said, drugs are only bad when they are abused. The problem is that so many people cannot control their drug habits.

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]You didn't think so? More like you just didn't think.

Have you ever tried any drugs? If you haven't, I don't see how you can dispute anything.[/QUOTE]
I personally hate being high, and when i am high, the only thing i want is to be clear-minded. THAT, is why i do not do drugs.

I haven't tried them no, but the main reason is that after having been around kids who did do them, I realized I had no desire to...not to mention the fact that I have a problem with addictions, as far as personality goes. Really though, most people that I know that got high even infrequently were less fun to be aroud when they were high...

Winners don't do drugs:thumb:

i've tried them, but i don't abuse, i've puffed up maybe 3 times in my life, and i didn't do it around others because i might make them feel bad, i did them
1. to play some guitar while high:)
2. relax
3. experience it

it's something i probably won't look to do again

[QUOTE=Ripper22]Unfortunately, with the exception of drinking, I've had the propoganda so drilled into me that I literally get freaked out when in the presence of drugs. QUOTE]

You must have gone to Christian school or something.

I used to be the same way, it's hard work to cure yourself of that problem.

I have a very addictive personality too. I've had my troubles with booze, dugs, etc, but I've always come out on top. My advice is, if you can't control your addictions, then don't try anything.

[QUOTE=Paranoidd][QUOTE=Ripper22]Unfortunately, with the exception of drinking, I've had the propoganda so drilled into me that I literally get freaked out when in the presence of drugs. QUOTE]

You must have gone to Christian school or something.

I used to be the same way, it's hard work to cure yourself of that problem.

I have a very addictive personality too. I've had my troubles with booze, dugs, etc, but I've always come out on top. My advice is, if you can't control your addictions, then don't try anything.[/QUOTE]

No, never went to Christian school. It's a combination of people I didn't like doing tons of drugs, the propoganda, and uneasiness. But I never went to Christian school...I just tended not to like the kids that do drugs. So when my friends that I did like started doing it too, the uneasiness probably sprang from the idea that they might turn into idiots that I didn't like also. Of course, rationally thought out, this idea makes no sense. Nevertheless, I can't help but feel uneasy. Oh well. Whatever.

Don't get me wrong dude, I wasn't trying to insult you or anything. I just know that Christian schools drill crazy propaganda into their students. They make them afraid of everything, it's ridiculous.

You ideas aren't TOO far off, I have friends who've done alot of drugs and turned into idiots.

Yes, one of my old school buddies is now an unemployed idiot because of too much weed, booze and e during high school.

Good night MX. :wave:

That'll happen.

Well, I've been holding a steady job for three years, and I've even smoked at work.

Like I said, it's not the drugs, it's the person doing them.

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Haha, that happened to me, when someone was taking forever to respond I started counting down from 10 to when I was gonna log off...and when I tried to enter 1 I got that message, and by the time sending was re-enabled she had responded :upset:

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Ah. I had a similar one for MSN. It used to have conversations with people when I wasn't at my computer.

So what do you all think of the classic rock poll? Good idea, bad idea? Good choice of bands?

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I'm a little iffy on some of the bands you picked but all in all I really like it. I also posted my update in the GnR thread (if anyone is interested in hearing what Izzy and Adler are up to now).

Explain "iffy".

I'm not sure if Guns N'Roses are really a "classic rock" band. How old does a band have to be to be considered "classic"?

Oh you meant that...

Look, every classic rock radio station in the world plays them. I think i'm in the clear.

Alright I'll accept that. I guess everything is fine then :thumb:

I feel Guns n' Roses is overrated at times...but that's just me.

^same, I dont get the idol worship they receive at times

Slash is amazing, of course, but seriously, the rest of the band is nothing special. And Axl has a terrible voice. They are kind of overrated, I think.

yeah axl destroys the band

Bumped from page 4 :p

Axl's voice goes well with their music IMO...without Axl it wouldn't sound like GnR, whether or not that is bad is up to you...

Axl was also the driving force behind the band. Without him they wouldnt have gone as far as they did.

Axl is GnR but that doesn't change the fact that he is an as[COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]hole.

[QUOTE=guitrguy]Axl is GnR but that doesn't change the fact that he is an as[COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]hole.[/QUOTE]


Quoted for the astounding truth. I've heard that at lots of GnR shows, he didn't even turn up to sing.

He even attacked a fan for trying to tape a show.

So does that make him worse or better than Lars?

Now that is really unsporting. His voice isn't even good. He has nothing to be that impressed about.

Ha ha ha, well if it wasnt for Lars it would have been a lot harder for them to become popular.

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