[QUOTE=lamb_of_goddrummer]Yeah, same here. I was kind of hoping I would find their other songs to be better. I think I didn't like Detonation because it seemed like the drumming skills declined(not literally his skill, just less going on in the song).[/QUOTE]

It did seem like travis toned his drumming down a notch aye that sucks i hope the rest of the album isnt like that

same here

note that was the first time they had EVER played it live. Ill be honest I wasnt too psyched with it, but I bet the album version is sick

and to all you trivium haters, heres a nice big FU*CK you

[url]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/triviumpics/kirktrivium.jpg[/url]

[QUOTE=Rattlehead]i think the true origin of that word as a musical genre is to be ditched. it started out as a word that simply said a band is emotional, and now it defines a genre that is indeed emotional, but many other bands are emotional and yet not emo, so to speak. the defining of a band as "emotional" should not have to rely on the actual definition of the word in this instence, that is when defining music. if a band is emo, they are emo. i don't think that its fair to argue by saying, "oh but they're not emotional".

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I'm not trying to but a genre label on them. I'm just stating that every band is emotional. Everybody's music has some kind of emotion, whether they want it to or not. Hate, love, greed, pain, whatever.

[QUOTE][url]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/triviumpics/kirktrivium.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]

oshi

Metallica is pretty dumb now. Kirk wheres capris, James isn't a hilarious drunk, Lars likes using pots and pans for drums, and they have a bassist that has been in like every band, o yeah, they don't know when they should quit because of how their last 2 albums SUCKED.

[QUOTE=lamb_of_goddrummer]Metallica is pretty dumb now. Kirk wheres capris, James isn't a hilarious drunk, Lars likes using pots and pans for drums, and they have a bassist that has been in like every band, o yeah, they don't know when they should quit because of how their last 2 albums SUCKED.[/QUOTE]

you must mean last 4

[QUOTE=Trivium]note that was the first time they had EVER played it live. Ill be honest I wasnt too psyched with it, but I bet the album version is sick

and to all you trivium haters, heres a nice big FU*CK you

[url]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/triviumpics/kirktrivium.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]
What? A pathetic exscuse for a band wore their shirt.

You're calling the 'Tallica pathetic?

*blinks*

Do you even like any form of metal?

Yes, just not the shi[size=2]t[/size] they create.

[QUOTE=Trivium]you must mean last 4[/QUOTE]

No, refuel and fuel were mediocre I thought, they didn't completely suck.

Drunken Viking, dude, Metallica was one of the bands that started metal...sure their later **** wasn't as good as the first 4 or 5 albums, but they aren't a "pathetic excuse for a band". Whatever it's ur opinion, even if it is a sh!tty one.

Really? I thought they were one of the forrunners of thrash metal. Black Sabbath came before them, but I guess we can just ignore them and all those bands from glam era, or NWOBHM era and say they weren't metal, or we could argue that Metallica influenced them from the future. Yes they are a huge band that have influenced million upon millions of people, but so have pop acts that I'm sure you despise. I am an original Metallica hater, I though MoP and RtL wer just as bad as St. Anger and TBA.

Metallica is much more than anyone here can even hope they will will become. They did it even whilst keeping things fresh and changing there styles. In my eyes it's a shame that anyone who wont even give a bands new direction a try, or at least admit it's good music whether they like it or not, call themselves music fans.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Really? I thought they were one of the forrunners of thrash metal. Black Sabbath came before them, but I guess we can just ignore them and all those bands from glam era, or NWOBHM era and say they weren't metal, or we could argue that Metallica influenced them from the future. Yes they are a huge band that have influenced million upon millions of people, but so have pop acts that I'm sure you despise. I am an original Metallica hater, I though MoP and RtL wer just as bad as St. Anger and TBA.[/QUOTE]

Bands like Black Sabbath usually come after people listen to Metallica. Metallica have reached way more people. Why bring up the pop acts? They may not have the talent of the people in your music do, but they appeal to there fans just like your bands appeal to you. It's not as different as you think. You just took the harder music direction.

I didn't say anything was wrong with pop. I was clearly comparing pop to being as inlfuencial as Metallica. I don't like Metallica, I probably never will. Can we just end this argument?

Wow, I come in this thread and the first thing I see is ''Pop'' and ''Metallica''


/go back one page

Anyway has anyone found an audio version of Detonation that could be put onto like an ipod cos I want one :(

If you have an Ipod video I could get you a version, but if not let me know and I'll try to convert it into audio.

Ive got an Ipod mini

Hmmm I could ask my friend to rip the audio for me but he doesnt like Trivium that much and hasnt ripped it the last half dozen times Ive asked him :lol:

I could try to get you an audio version, when my friend gets on AIM.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Really? I thought they were one of the forrunners of thrash metal. Black Sabbath came before them, but I guess we can just ignore them and all those bands from glam era, or NWOBHM era and say they weren't metal, or we could argue that Metallica influenced them from the future. Yes they are a huge band that have influenced million upon millions of people, but so have pop acts that I'm sure you despise. I am an original Metallica hater, I though MoP and RtL wer just as bad as St. Anger and TBA.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I never said any of those bands didn't help start today's metal. I think I clearly stated that Metallica was [U][B]ONE[/B][/U] of the bands that started metal...and this is the rock and metal section of the forum...no one cares about pop in here.

Haha too true about the pop part

[QUOTE=lamb_of_goddrummer]Yeah I never said any of those bands didn't help start today's metal. I think I clearly stated that Metallica was [U][B]ONE[/B][/U] of the bands that started metal...and this is the rock and metal section of the forum...no one cares about pop in here.[/QUOTE]
I realize you said that, and I'm saying that they didn't start metal. They have yes defintely influenced a lot of the newer metal, but they didn't start metal in general. They started to get real succes with Kill 'Em All, that was released in 1983. Before that there were already glam bands, Iron Maiden had released a few albums, Ozzy had started his solo carrer already, Judas Priest had released a few albums including the highly succesful British Steel. They didn't start metal, they were already dozens of bands before them, they might've helped to gain popularity. And the pop thing, it was just used as a comparison, that obviously failed.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]I realize you said that, and I'm saying that they didn't start metal. They have yes defintely influenced a lot of the newer metal, but they didn't start metal in general. They started to get real succes with Kill 'Em All, that was released in 1983. Before that there were already glam bands, Iron Maiden had released a few albums, Ozzy had started his solo carrer already, Judas Priest had released a few albums including the highly succesful British Steel. They didn't start metal, they were already dozens of bands before them, they might've helped to gain popularity. And the pop thing, it was just used as a comparison, that obviously failed.[/QUOTE]


IMO, Metallica was the extra boost that drove Metal over the edge into popularity. Ozzy/Priest/Maiden all them began the revolution, and bands like Metallica/etc. brought it forth.

Which is what I said, they got it more popular, about as popular as the Glam momement which was huge.

[QUOTE=Grumma]Anyway has anyone found an audio version of Detonation that could be put onto like an ipod cos I want one :([/QUOTE]

dude go to [url]www.triviumworld.com[/url] theres audio there i believe i posted that the other day

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]I realize you said that, and I'm saying that they didn't start metal. They have yes defintely influenced a lot of the newer metal, but they didn't start metal in general. They started to get real succes with Kill 'Em All, that was released in 1983. Before that there were already glam bands, Iron Maiden had released a few albums, Ozzy had started his solo carrer already, Judas Priest had released a few albums including the highly succesful British Steel. They didn't start metal, they were already dozens of bands before them, they might've helped to gain popularity. And the pop thing, it was just used as a comparison, that obviously failed.[/QUOTE]

Yes, so they helped start metal. By gaining more popularity into the genre, it inspired many people to start bands. So Pantera might have been influenced by them and half of the metal bands today are too, ultimately helping to start and expand metal to what it is today.

The popularized metal, that's not the same thing as starting it. I can make coke popular by gaining popularity and influening people to buy it, does that mean I started it? NO!

[QUOTE=Huber]Metallica is much more than anyone here can even hope they will will become. They did it even whilst keeping things fresh and changing there styles. In my eyes it's a shame that anyone who wont even give a bands new direction a try, or at least admit it's good music whether they like it or not, call themselves music fans.



Bands like Black Sabbath usually come after people listen to Metallica. Metallica have reached way more people. Why bring up the pop acts? They may not have the talent of the people in your music do, but they appeal to there fans just like your bands appeal to you. It's not as different as you think. You just took the harder music direction.[/QUOTE]
agreed. you said it well. especially the first bit.

[QUOTE=Mr. Crowley]IMO, Metallica was the extra boost that drove Metal over the edge into popularity. Ozzy/Priest/Maiden all them began the revolution, and bands like Metallica/etc. brought it forth.[/QUOTE]
this is [I]exactly[/I] what i would have said.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]The popularized metal, that's not the same thing as starting it. I can make coke popular by gaining popularity and influening people to buy it, does that mean I started it? NO![/QUOTE]

Lol, ok dude, calm down, I misunderstood what you were saying. I get it now, just don't have a stroke.

Lol, sorry if it seemed harsh I was just trying to get my point across. We cool?

Yeah no prob dude, we're cool, I respect the fact that you would ask me that. At least you're not an asshole like everyone else.

Do you play any instrument?