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Dr. Jake Destructo 03-07-2007 11:11 PM

Yeah, definitely. I doubt it'll do well at all.

Montana 03-07-2007 11:34 PM

[QUOTE=bwnstl;14326881]I think Broken is one of the better things Trent has ever done. AND I think Happiness in Slavery is the weakest track on the album. So I'm pretty much Kage's complete opposite. I sense a fight to the death.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly how I feel as well.

Edit: that video was neat but it made me dizzy.

Polyamarous 03-08-2007 10:03 AM

I saw survivalism live on sunday, and it certainly did not even 1% suck.

Kage 03-08-2007 10:24 AM

[QUOTE=Polyamarous;14335387]I saw survivalism live on sunday, and it certainly did not even 1% suck.[/QUOTE]

That's what you think.

Polyamarous 03-08-2007 03:06 PM

Can you testify otherwise?

Didn't think so!

Dr. Jake Destructo 03-08-2007 07:25 PM

What makes you think Survivalism would suck live Kage? Everything about the song is just ruddy and hazy and undefined, but I think in a live setting, this could be cleared up.

Polyamarous 03-15-2007 12:47 PM

Anyone heard the rumour of NIN at reading this year?
Should be good!

samthebassman 03-16-2007 06:35 AM

I dont like what I have heard from the new album, but I still have high hopes.

Inkstar 03-16-2007 06:57 AM

Hey guys, thought I'd chime in here.

My mate came over tonight, and we exchanged watching DVD's - my Dream Theater, and his NIN (Beside You In Time). I must say, I was very impressed with NIN! This was my first proper listen to NIN and they're great! Some of the songs were brilliant, and actual concert was just amazing - the lighting was intense!

Thought I'd share. Looks like I'll have to pick up some of their albums. :)

Clunge 03-16-2007 07:38 AM

I'd start with 'Pretty Hate Machine' and 'The Downward Spiral' - NIN's two seminal albums IMO.

Refl 03-16-2007 09:49 AM

[QUOTE=Polyamarous;14374593]Anyone heard the rumour of NIN at reading this year?
Should be good![/QUOTE]

i'm going to reading regardless of the line-up so this would be a cool addition.

bwnstl 03-18-2007 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=Clunge;14379334]I'd start with 'Pretty Hate Machine' and 'The Downward Spiral' - NIN's two seminal albums IMO.[/QUOTE]

And if you don't like Pretty Hate Machine, don't fear--it's their worst album anyways. Haha.

Clunge 03-18-2007 01:00 PM

I do hope you're joking :eek: .

Refl 03-18-2007 01:01 PM

[QUOTE=Clunge;14392558]I do hope you're joking :eek: .[/QUOTE]

Pretty Hate Machine is average at best.

Kage 03-18-2007 01:06 PM

Average it is not! It's either terrible or amazing, but nothing in between those two extremes.

Polyamarous 03-18-2007 01:30 PM

It's not that great, it's very 80's ish, but it was at the time. I still enjoy some songs though.

bwnstl 03-18-2007 11:39 PM

[QUOTE=Clunge;14392558]I do hope you're joking :eek: .[/QUOTE]

Nah, I think it's mediocre, juvenile, and boring.

Phil 03-19-2007 01:11 AM

I kinda like Pretty hate machine. My favourite would be The Fragile, both CDs.

Inflames 03-20-2007 12:40 PM

Year zero comes out in a month...
I've heard nothing but good things

Kyle 03-20-2007 12:46 PM

So NIN are definately playing Reading, I only have Downward Spiral but it's still fairly exciting now I have tickets.

They're followed by the Pumpkins so I'm a happy bunny.

Kage 03-20-2007 12:55 PM

That's gonna be awesome.

Polyamarous 03-20-2007 01:19 PM

Reading is going to be ace.
So many good bands.

misunderstood 03-20-2007 01:33 PM

Smashing Pumpkins and NIN on the same bill..Nice!
I'd give my left boob to be there :p.
Anyway, I don't mind PHM. One of my favorite songs, 'Sin', is actually on that album. TDS still continues, and has been for the longest time, my favorite NIN release though. We'll see where Year Zero lands..listening party this Friday! :D

dietrichswhore 03-23-2007 01:39 AM

Here's my poorly written review of Year Zero:

After 2005’s With_Teeth most fans and critics alike were prepared for the seemingly inevitable five-year gap between releases. Sobriety – it seems – equals productivity, and so to the surprise of those same fans and critics Trent Reznor returns a mere two years after we last saw him, swapping his at times clichéd self-loathing for a concept album about a dystopian near-future where the US emerges as a pre-eminent power and initiates a surveillance society.

There’s no doubt about it, with Year Zero, NIN stand to alienate some of their newest fans. Year Zero is not far removed from been the antithesis of its predecessor; whereas WT was somewhat capacious, melodic and commercially geared, Year Zero is abrasive, noisy and possibly the most layered NIN album since The Downward Spiral.

The album begins with Hyperpower!, an introductory piece of barely over a minute which plays host to a buzzing electronic rhythm over a monotonous and ever approaching beat. In some ways the first two tracks on Year Zero lead the listener into a false sense of security, The Beginning of the End and Survivalism been perhaps the two most radio-friendly NIN cuts since WT’s lead single The Hand That Feeds. The Good Soldier – though a standout track with its lyrical departure for Reznor sure to be a talking point – is not as representative of the much lauded ‘noisy’ nature of the album as Vessel, a song that appears to recount some form of use with the drug Opal, an integral part of the Year Zero concept. Over the chours Reznor asks ‘oh my god, can it go any faster?’. The most memorable part of the track though is the nearly two minute wall of sound that derails the track before Me I’m Not starts up – a track not dissimilar to any number of Massive Attack compositions.

Next is Capital G, which really should have been the lead single and probably will be the next one, owing to the insanely dancey beat that meanders its way through the scathingly sarcastic verses. The potential downfall to the track is that after two minutes it doesn’t really go anywhere lyrically though much to this author’s pleasure the driving but simplistic beat continues under layers of guitar until it finds itself back at the chorus with Reznor bemoaning how he ‘traded in my god for this one / and he signs his name with a capital G’.

The following three tracks –My Violent Heart, The Warning and God Given – probably represent the best section of the album. My personal favourite was The Warning with is repeated mantra-like outro of ‘your time is tick-tick-ticking away’ though the downright heavy God Given came close to usurping it from that position.

The penultimate three tracks are all somewhat below the standard of their precursors, Meet Your Master is a tad dull and seems to have said all it need to after two minutes though feels the need to stay longer, The Greater Good though an interesting almost instrumental track though it too feels a little overwrought though the same can not be said for The Great Destroyer that evaporates mid-chorus into a noise collage that will be all the more punishing for those listening with headphones.

As for the final three songs, Another Version of the Truth is a piano permeated, In This Twilight feels like a climax and also a realisation whereas Zero-Sum, clocking in at over six minutes, probably needs headphones to be fully appreciated with it’s Ruiner-esque vocals almost below the music.

The good news is that Year Zero is probably Reznor’s best work since 1994’s The Downward Spiral, not as intricate as The Fragile it is easier to jump into though it remains lengthy (63 minutes) by current standards. The even better news is that Reznor intends to deliver the second part of the Year Zero story as an album perhaps as early as next year. Year Zero shows that after the almost tired and lyrically inept With Teeth there is much too look forward to as far as Nine Inch Nails is concerned.

Phil 03-23-2007 07:15 AM

Survivalisms video is pretty political it seems. Only seen it once but thats what I felt. The song itself seems distant with the vocals side and the instruments were fairly basic to me. I think it will work well on CD, not so much on its own.

Kage 03-23-2007 07:24 AM

[QUOTE=dietrichswhore;14416171]/review[/QUOTE]

That was great. I'm excited about this album.

Be sure to submit that to sputnikmusic.com when the album officially comes out.

Clunge 03-23-2007 07:42 AM

I've heard Survivalism and The Beginning Of The End and tbh, if the rest of the album can live up to these two, this will be NIN's best work since TDS :cool:.

And cheers for the review, you made it sound even tastier :D.

bwnstl 03-23-2007 08:54 AM

[QUOTE=dietrichswhore;14416171]Review![/QUOTE]

I agree, submit it to Sputnik, but definitely read through it and fix your mistakes, as they are bountiful.

Clunge 03-23-2007 09:40 AM

I can't stop listening to Survivalism!

dietrichswhore 03-23-2007 06:51 PM

I'm not posting here as it may ruin it for people but for those who wouldn't mind seeing them lyrics for almost every song (though Meet Your Master is slightly incorrect) are at [url]www.oldielyrics.com[/url] with a link on the mainpage. Best NIN lyrics yet in my opinion; devoid of cliched self-loathing. What can be a little wearing is that almost every song follows the same rhyme scheme, eg.

---non-rhyming
---home
---non-rhyming
---alone

(i don't think those lyrics actually appear but it gives some idea)

Whether this is a bad thing or not I'm not sure, no one seems to have mentioned it, but the bridges leading into the choruses for both God Given and U2's Elevation are virtually the same.


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