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Joe 08-02-2005 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=azathoth]Heh, it's James Hetfield's 42nd birthday today (3rd August).[/QUOTE]

Happy B-day James!

And about Sanitarium, it's interesting but I don't like those unless it really sounds like a rip off. Eventually riffs will be re-used and will sound the same after awhile

The night of 1,000 we did about 8 pages. I left town for a week and we've done 4 pages since? Where is everyone?

Britton 08-02-2005 08:58 PM

I was there when that happened it was about thirty minutes
it was about six people doing it

Happy Birthday old man!!! you are my ****lin Hero since the day

Huber 08-02-2005 09:28 PM

Cool, happy birthday to James.

Can one of you guitar experts tell me what/how to do a pinch harmonic?

Carlos Santana 08-02-2005 09:28 PM

in Cliff'em All during that scene where the camerman (cliff? i dont know) , when he tells the band not to move while he gets more beer and they like dont move.
yeah i was wondering what song is playing during that part?

Dr. Killgreedy 08-02-2005 09:43 PM

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]Cool, happy birthday to James.

Can one of you guitar experts tell me what/how to do a pinch harmonic?[/QUOTE]
go to the beginner guitarist questions thread, or go to the lessons archive.

desyfermate101 08-02-2005 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]Cool, happy birthday to James.

Can one of you guitar experts tell me what/how to do a pinch harmonic?[/QUOTE]

Hey man, HELL YEAH NO ONE BEATS METALLICA, alright dude pinch harmonics aren't that hard, they just take a little practicing to get perfect, what u do is u just hit a note generally on either the G, B, or E strings those are the easiest to do it on, so try like the 9th fret on G or the 17th fret on B, those are pretty easy to hit, but its different on every guitar, so first dude turn that gain UPPPPP allll the way that makes it easier to get a good harmonic, so what your doing is u pluck the string and then very quickly touch your thumb just barely on the string to get a harmonic, and then to make it sound better do a vibrato after u pluck the string, ...but u cant just touch anywhere try hitting a note and just barely touching the same string with your finger above the pickups, try it on/between/and in the middle of the pickups, a few of these places will give u a harmonic, so practice all different places, and then u need to pluck the string and touch your thumb barely over that little spot that gives u the harmonic, if u have any other questions or need more details just go to google.com, and search pinch harmonics, u will get a good description from that, but ik its always hard to read something and do it, so if this is in anyway confusing just go to the nearist music store to you, and looking for some dude shredding on guitar, and usually their nice enough to show u a few tricks, its alwayyyyysss easier to be taught by another person instead of a computer. GOOD LUCK DUDE!!

JonG 08-02-2005 10:19 PM

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]
Can one of you guitar experts tell me what/how to do a pinch harmonic?[/QUOTE]
I'm no expert...but

A good vibrato is always key, as is technique. Make sure you have plenty of gain. What I like to do is imagine that I'm "scooping" into a PH. I make a U shaped movement with my hand. The 6th fret on the G string is a hot one for me.

lionelhutz88 08-02-2005 11:20 PM

the 7-9th frets on my d and g strings are good hotspots for ph's. It's different for all guitars, though.

Jev 08-03-2005 04:44 AM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]

btw, it was posted awhile ago that kirk did ALL the solos on KEA. if that's so, why don't they play the first horsemen solo?[/QUOTE]
There could be many reasons, it's played on 2 guitars for a start, it's pretty fast and that whole section just adds on to the song to make it drag on a bit.


James shares his birthday with one of my mates :)

BassMasterMike88 08-03-2005 05:19 AM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]

btw, it was posted awhile ago that kirk did ALL the solos on KEA. if that's so, why don't they play the first horsemen solo?[/QUOTE]

That could be true, but Dave's stiquoto altrinating playing style gives him away on tracks like 4 hoursmen and Hit the Lights.

Darkest Hour 08-03-2005 05:45 AM

[QUOTE=BassMasterMike88]That could be true, but Dave's stiquoto altrinating playing style gives him away on tracks like 4 hoursmen and Hit the Lights.[/QUOTE]

Mustaine wrote 4 horsemen didnt he?

Chu 08-03-2005 05:51 AM

[QUOTE=Darkest Hour]Mustaine wrote 4 horsemen didnt he?[/QUOTE]
Not really.
He wrote Mechanix, which James and Lars wrote The Four Horsemen with, if you get what I meant. They're very similar songs, but slightly different, The Four Horsemen, for instance is quit a bit longer, slower, and alot more melodic.

Jev 08-03-2005 05:59 AM

They changed Dave's lyrics too. His were a bit lame if you ask me. I'm glad his songwriting grew up for Peace Sells though.
Metallica's lyrics for it kick áss though.

Kyle 08-03-2005 06:01 AM

Did you guys see Metallica are supporting the Rolling Stones on a couple of dates :amaze:

Jev 08-03-2005 06:02 AM

[QUOTE=kylelibertine]Did you guys see Metallica are supporting the Rolling Stones on a couple of dates :amaze:[/QUOTE]
When?

Chu 08-03-2005 06:06 AM

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]They changed Dave's lyrics too. His were a bit lame if you ask me. I'm glad his songwriting grew up for Peace Sells though.
Metallica's lyrics for it kick áss though.[/QUOTE]
When you think about what Mechanix is about, the lyrics are fine, if not great.
Well, that's my opinion. I think what let that song down alot was the poor recording/production, and his vocals, if he had have done some Looking Down The Cross style vocals, I think it would have been great.

BassMasterMike88 08-03-2005 06:17 AM

Well Megadeth and Metallica seem to have taken a similar path, the sound change on Symonphy(sp) of Destructon is somwhat like the Black Album, left fans a tad confussed about the less speed/trash sound, and Megadeths new stuff is goning down that path of a St. Anger album.

Mazeppa 08-03-2005 06:18 AM

[QUOTE=BassMasterMike88]Well Megadeth and Metallica seem to have taken a similar path, the sound change on Symonphy(sp) of Destructon is somwhat like the Black Album, left fans a tad confussed about the less speed/trash sound, and Megadeths new stuff is goning down that path of a St. Anger album.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately yes.

Jev 08-03-2005 06:25 AM

I don't know i loved TSHF.

munky_magik 08-03-2005 06:27 AM

[i]TSHF[/i] is rather different from [i]St. Anger[/i]. It's much more of a classic metal album, like [i]TWNAH[/i], with touches of their earlier material. It's also very well produced and less repetitive.

Chu 08-03-2005 07:00 AM

Yes, Megadeth's St. Anger album would be Risk. So if Metallica is doing what Megadeth did, their next album will be awesome.

munky_magik 08-03-2005 07:05 AM

I think [i]Crytpic Writings/Risk[/i] mirror [i]Load/ReLoad[/i] because it was a change from the established metal sound for both 'Deth and 'Tallica.

Chu 08-03-2005 07:44 AM

Ahh very true..
Well, I would say Cryptic Writings is their Black Album, there are of course some exceptions to this (Metallica's Through The Never, Megadeth's High Speed Dirt), but both albums are a change from the band's normal, and just striaight into Heavy Metal..
I dunno, I haven't thought much about this... :p

munky_magik 08-03-2005 07:50 AM

The groupings of the albums are very Similar

Group 1: Kill Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets - Killing Is My Business, Rust In Peace, Peace Sells

Group 2; The Black Alcum - Countdown to extinction

Group 3: - Load, ReLoad - Crytpic Writings, Risk

After that my theory kinda dies

[size=1]As you can see, I've probably thought about this toomuch :p[/size]

trapped_under_ice 08-03-2005 08:05 AM

Hey if you guys like Metallica you should check out this forum. We need members!

[url]http://s11.invisionfree.com/puppets[/url]

Carlos Santana 08-03-2005 08:51 AM

can somebody please answer my question. I'm dying to hear that song that is played during the scene in Cliff'em All, where the cameraman tells the band that "dont move, ill get more beer" and they like just freeze. Yeah i was wondering if anyone knew what song was being played at that scene?

Kyle 08-03-2005 09:14 AM

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]When?[/QUOTE]
november 13th and 15th in San Francisco I believe

Chu 08-03-2005 09:18 AM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]The groupings of the albums are very Similar

Group 1: Kill Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets - Killing Is My Business, Rust In Peace, Peace Sells

Group 2; The Black Alcum - Countdown to extinction

Group 3: - Load, ReLoad - Crytpic Writings, Risk

After that my theory kinda dies

[size=1]As you can see, I've probably thought about this toomuch :p[/size][/QUOTE]
Oh snap :p
I got Countdown and Cryptic Writings mixed up, sorry :p
I don't have Cryptic Writings, but I do have Countdown :cool:
Sorry, stupid mistake.

Otherwise, yeah I agree with you, Cryptic Writings is the only album there I don't have.

FlyingPaul_83 08-03-2005 11:12 AM

[QUOTE=Carlos Santana]can somebody please answer my question. I'm dying to hear that song that is played during the scene in Cliff'em All, where the cameraman tells the band that "dont move, ill get more beer" and they like just freeze. Yeah i was wondering if anyone knew what song was being played at that scene?[/QUOTE]

Tesla-Cumin' Atcha Live
[url]http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=345MUF3UICD8610GT2MLA0LUU4[/url] :thumb:

Joe 08-03-2005 01:12 PM

Ok so I call upon fellow Metallica MXers for help. I can't find both my Master of Puppets and my St. Anger. I would really appreciate if someone could send one or the other through AIM or email or YSI or something

AIM gocaps99
mail [email]gocaps99@aol.com[/email]

Carlos Santana 08-03-2005 02:07 PM

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]Tesla-Cumin' Atcha Live
[url]http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=345MUF3UICD8610GT2MLA0LUU4[/url] :thumb:[/QUOTE]
thanks man

Huber 08-03-2005 02:26 PM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]Ok so I call upon fellow Metallica MXers for help. I can't find both my Master of Puppets and my St. Anger. I would really appreciate if someone could send one or the other through AIM or email or YSI or something

AIM gocaps99
mail [email]gocaps99@aol.com[/email][/QUOTE]

I can lend you a hand later tonight. I gotta go to work soon though.

Dude3 08-03-2005 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]The groupings of the albums are very Similar

Group 1: Kill Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets - Killing Is My Business, Rust In Peace, Peace Sells

Group 2; The Black Alcum - Countdown to extinction

Group 3: - Load, ReLoad - Crytpic Writings, Risk

After that my theory kinda dies

[size=1]As you can see, I've probably thought about this toomuch :p[/size][/QUOTE]
Yep, I pretty much agree on that.

Joe 08-03-2005 03:11 PM

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]I can lend you a hand later tonight. I gotta go to work soon though.[/QUOTE]

thanks, i won't be home till later so it's all good

[QUOTE]Yep, I pretty much agree on that.[/QUOTE]

Same, there was a lot of similarity in Dave's and James' writing

dimenwylde22 08-03-2005 10:09 PM

How did Dave keep the song Mechanix, and James keep the song The Four Hrsemen

RustedPieces 08-03-2005 10:19 PM

Because Dave wrote it, and when he brought it to Metallica, James changed it up a bit and they were able to keep the song.

dimenwylde22 08-03-2005 10:53 PM

[QUOTE=RustedPieces]Because Dave wrote it, and when he brought it to Metallica, James changed it up a bit and they were able to keep the song.[/QUOTE]

For awhile I thought that was written by james

fatbandit 08-04-2005 05:04 AM

Could someone upload 'All Within My Hands' for me...?

The copy of St Anger I was given didn't come with it... :confused:

Cheers!

:smash:

azn_punx 08-04-2005 07:11 AM

What are the chances of Metallica playing Ozzfest?? Now that Rob is in Metalica has some big connections with some pretty big people involved in Ozzfest. If Metallica would join Ozzfest I belive that sooo many people would go. It would go great with another old Thrash act, Testament, Anthrax or Slayer again. Now Megadeth has their hands full with Gigantour and I dunno if Anthrax would play again next year or not.

Ad Absurdum 08-04-2005 07:11 AM

Metallica - 'All Within My Hands'
hxxp://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=03B0LSG1QSDRY056237244HJ33

Just paste that into your address bar and change the "xx" to "tt" :thumb:


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