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Blinded 12-15-2005 04:43 PM

I play metal and I'd like to find a ride with a mega-bell, any suggestions ? I've tried the Zildjian's Z mega-bell 22" but i'd like ot know if other brand make some of these mega-bell rides

Iskandar 12-15-2005 05:43 PM

[QUOTE=DuckinFutch]alright, well that's pretty good, I should be able to at least get my heads with that...

And maybe a stand or so...

Any estimate on the ZBT hi-hats?[/QUOTE]
Maybe $100 for the pair, if you're lucky.

Daven 12-15-2005 08:50 PM

Well, I need to buy a ride and the brands im thinking are Zildjian, Paiste and Sabian. So if someone could recommend me a good ride that doesnt cost too much would be extremely appreciated. I dont know this is important but the genre I will mostly play is rock or metal.

bobby__johnny 12-15-2005 08:54 PM

ok...now what kind of sound are you looking for?

full collapse 12-15-2005 09:34 PM

I'm kind of going back in forth between a few rides. Does anybody know what the volume range is for the Zildjian A 22" Ping ride. Can it be played at a soft volume comfortably?

Daven 12-15-2005 09:44 PM

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]ok...now what kind of sound are you looking for?[/QUOTE]

Im not sure man, since this would be my first ride because the drumset i bought didnt include it. What sound would you recommend? Or what type of sounds are? Sorry for bthe lack for information.

Plan B. 12-15-2005 10:31 PM

I'm basically looking for a sound exactly like this.

[url]http://www.videocodezone.com/videos/y/yeah_yeah_yeahs/maps.html[/url]

I know it says on the Zildjian website that Brian Chase uses a 22" K Heavy Ride, but I'm not totally sure that would acheive the same sound, because I have played one in person. Maybe I'm just werided out but I'd like to get a few suggestions so I could check 'em all out.

I love how you can hear the bright ping clearly, but there's a tiny bit of wash, but when he crashes on it becomes sharp and spreads, full and massive. You can see he barely even uses his cymbal on his left, that's ALL him crashing on the ride.

full collapse 12-15-2005 10:47 PM

Well, cymbals are always going to sound different on recordings then in person.

bobby__johnny 12-16-2005 08:33 AM

[QUOTE=Daven]Im not sure man, since this would be my first ride because the drumset i bought didnt include it. What sound would you recommend? Or what type of sounds are? Sorry for bthe lack for information.[/QUOTE]

well, if your unsure, check out the 20" AA Medium Ride. if its too bright or too pingy, or too washy, we can take it from there

Cripple 12-16-2005 07:49 PM

well, I'm finally getting a new pair of hats. But I am debating between the Zildjian New Beats and the Mastersounds. Which one would you suggest?

Iskandar 12-16-2005 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=Cripple]well, I'm finally getting a new pair of hats. But I am debating between the Zildjian New Beats and the Mastersounds. Which one would you suggest?[/QUOTE]
They're both good. Try them both out.

DespisedIcon689 12-16-2005 09:49 PM

Need a pair of hi-hats...(ZBT's suck a$$ because I have them right now)

For Hardcore/Punk

Plan B. 12-16-2005 09:50 PM

A Quick beats, A Rock hats.

AA Regular, AA Fusion, AA Rock hats.

Check those babies out.

:lol:

Almost forgot K/Z's.

Chester 12-17-2005 03:58 PM

im looking for a second crash to compliment my 16" AAX stage crash, dont care what brand or nething. i asked this a little while ago, but noone directly answered me or gave me suggestions.

Seafroggys 12-17-2005 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=Cripple]well, I'm finally getting a new pair of hats. But I am debating between the Zildjian New Beats and the Mastersounds. Which one would you suggest?[/QUOTE]

New Beats

[QUOTE]Need a pair of hi-hats...(ZBT's suck a$$ because I have them right now)

For Hardcore/Punk[/QUOTE]

New Beats

Chester 12-17-2005 04:34 PM

^^ haha, is it just me, or do u seem to like new beats?

DespisedIcon689 12-17-2005 09:22 PM

lol....maybe he does

Murd_666 12-17-2005 09:37 PM

I want a ride with some great stick definition, like the the ride Danny carrey uses, not that sound just that stick definition, you know that very pingy sound with that cutting bell, except I want it not too be Paiste, cause there too expensive

Seafroggys 12-17-2005 09:57 PM

Zildjian A Ping RIde maybe?

Iskandar 12-17-2005 10:09 PM

A Rock Ride would be brighter and more like Carey's.

Cripple 12-18-2005 12:35 AM

Sorry for posting again so soon, I am looking for a high-quality bright crash. The cymbal will be used mainly for rock. Preferably not above $200

full collapse 12-18-2005 12:59 AM

I'm considering this cymbal set up. Tell me what you think...

Zildjian A 14" Mastersound Hi-hats or New Beats
Zildjian A 22" Ping Ride
Zildjian A 21" Sweet Ride
Sabian 18" and 20" HHX Stage Crashes

Tim 12-18-2005 01:55 AM

[QUOTE=full collapse]
Zildjian A 14" New Beats
Zildjian A 22" Ping Ride
Zildjian A 21" Sweet Ride
Sabian 18" and 20" HHX Stage Crashes[/QUOTE]


sounds great to me. those HHX stage crashes are awesome.

Bowler 12-18-2005 09:05 AM

Ok...whats the main difference between AA, AAX and AAXtreme Chinas? I know the AA and AAX are the same price but I'm wondering about how they sound.

I've to be fast aswell cause I wana order 1 for xmas!!

Tim 12-18-2005 11:28 AM

cant go wrong with either one. I own the AA chinese in 18inch traditional finish and its amazing. played the AAXtreme too. cant go wrong with either.

Daven 12-18-2005 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]well, if your unsure, check out the 20" AA Medium Ride. if its too bright or too pingy, or too washy, we can take it from there[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the help man, I'll check them out. :thumb:

bobby__johnny 12-18-2005 08:44 PM

[QUOTE=Bowler]Ok...whats the main difference between AA, AAX and AAXtreme Chinas? I know the AA and AAX are the same price but I'm wondering about how they sound.

I've to be fast aswell cause I wana order 1 for xmas!![/QUOTE]

by all description, the AAX should be tighter and more direct. the AA is the all around model...have a 16" myself

the AAXtreme, is a more trash kinda Chinese. very tight, but lacks the normal sizing. of course, you could always custom size the one you want...but that takes a while

Bowler 12-19-2005 03:56 AM

Thanks, I'd say i'll go with the AAX alright, good stuff!

Drum Phil 12-19-2005 12:17 PM

Im wanting a new crash so i'll let you guys help.

Its gonna be custom sized so it'll be 22". What crash would work well at this size? Its gotta be sabian and its gotta be bright and cutting. Im thinking vault or something from the AAX line.

Cheers guys

Brokensticks 12-19-2005 12:21 PM

A AAX Stage Crash.

Chester 12-20-2005 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]Im wanting a new crash so i'll let you guys help.

Its gonna be custom sized so it'll be 22". What crash would work well at this size? Its gotta be sabian and its gotta be bright and cutting. Im thinking vault or something from the AAX line.

Cheers guys[/QUOTE]
haha wow, that would be a hell of a crash... 22"

Cripple 12-20-2005 01:00 PM

[QUOTE=Cripple]Sorry for posting again so soon, I am looking for a high-quality bright crash. The cymbal will be used mainly for rock. Preferably not above $200[/QUOTE]

bump

Drum Phil 12-20-2005 01:08 PM

AAXplosion? Max of $150 for that

Sabian Vault? $166 max.

Zildjian Avedis? $199 max.

Dummer'n'Drummer 12-20-2005 06:15 PM

Ok so, I'm looking for a Ride....

I hate it when their washy, I hate it when their raw and full of over/undertones....

I'm looking for decent cutting, very bright, good stick definition from Sabian and not too pricey.... 250$ CAD MAX!

Chester 12-20-2005 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=Dummer'n'Drummer]Ok so, I'm looking for a Ride....

I hate it when their washy, I hate it when their raw and full of over/undertones....

I'm looking for decent cutting, very bright, good stick definition from Sabian and not too pricey.... 250$ CAD MAX![/QUOTE]

im horrible at giving suggestions based on descriptions, but maybe an AA rock ride, not washy. i love that ride. it is like $168 or something american dollars on massmusic.net

Brokensticks 12-20-2005 08:39 PM

[QUOTE=Chester]im looking for a second crash to compliment my 16" AAX stage crash, dont care what brand or nething. i asked this a little while ago, but noone directly answered me or gave me suggestions.[/QUOTE]

18" AAX Stage Crash, I'm gona have a 16" and a 18" in my near future ( I hope)

Chester 12-21-2005 11:17 AM

^^ yea, thnx, il definately look at it, i want to try a 18" AA medium crash, maybe a med thin too, i dont know.

hmm i was hoping to get to a drum store that had some sabian cymbals bfore christmas, but every time i ask my dad hes like later haha. so i guess i wont be getting any new cymbals for christmas.

slash_bmxer09 12-21-2005 07:03 PM

Hey,
I'm looking for a new ride. Something that will play music from Van Halen, to Nirvana, to Led Zeppelin. Classic rock, to light metal. I have up to $200 to spend (yes I know its low). Also, I'd like it to be 20"-22". No smaller or bigger, ONLY if possible. Thanks.

Dummer'n'Drummer 12-21-2005 09:02 PM

So can anyone help me with my ride?

Drum Phil 12-22-2005 06:43 AM

[quote=Dummer'n'Drummer]Ok so, I'm looking for a Ride....

I hate it when their washy, I hate it when their raw and full of over/undertones....

I'm looking for decent cutting, very bright, good stick definition from Sabian and not too pricey.... 250$ CAD MAX![/quote]

HH Rock ride. Not so sure how much it is in CAD though


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