I would be interested in reading the books clearvision just mentioned. Can anyone tell me where to start? Also, I while back on Toolband I saw in the books section, something titled along the lines of "Everything in this book is a lie, but it's exactly how things are". I'm not sure if this is the exact title of it, but I tried to order it in my town and the bookshop said they couldn't find it. I know SonorKen has read it, I've seen him mention it before. Can any give me some details on the Book? like the Author/Publisher etc. Thanks :)

The author of the book is a man named Bob Frissel G_Mac, but I haven't really had any more luck finding the book around where I live. The bookstores I've been to have told me that they don't have it in stock, and that it's also out of publication.

The only place where I can seem to find any copies are amazon.com, where there are a bunch of used copies for sale. Haven't decided yet whether or not I'll go for that, though.

I just read last night on toolshed.down.net that some Blair guy went to a recording session, and all he found out was that the first song is called LK (subject to change) and it's obviously pretty fast, because the guy thought it was 15 minutes long and Adam said it was more like 18.

Wooh major Tool binge.

Amazon.com is the place to get the metaphysics book...The book is only on the american version of the site though :(

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]We came to the conclusion some time ago that it was played on a sitar, or some other obscure stringed instrument. It was possibly played by MJK as well, as he plays some interesting instruments[/QUOTE]
Sitar sounds right.

[QUOTE=Remedy]What affect or guitar did adam use for the begining of 4 degrees?[/QUOTE]

i cant afford what he was using, but i just pick right against the bridge. sounds ok.
what i do need is a whammy bar, i really want to get the intro to prison sex down.

how is the new cd calling?

[QUOTE=daven]how is the new cd calling?[/QUOTE]

What you said makes no sense, but I can try.

Either:
1) Except for the band, no one knows what the CD is called.

2) They're in studio now, so it's obviously going very well, at least now we know for sure it's coming out this year.

Cant wait for the new cd. It will be awesome. So who here has listened to Tool on acid. I listened to Salival and Lateralus the other night whilst tripping and it was one of the greatest musical experiences of my life. I recommend it if you are into that stuff ;)

Does anyone else think that maybe H. and Forty six & 2 could be linked? coz they're linked on the album more or less through "useful idiot". any thoughts?

Edit:
Also, I think Die Eir Von Satan could be giving the message that not everything appears as it is, since it sounds like some kind of cult following but it's actually just a recipe... anyone agree?

3 and 5 might be linked, but i don't think so, i hear two different messages in them, but your theory on Die Eir Von Satan could possibly be the best i've heard yet.

I think there is more of link in eulogy and H than H and 46 & 2. I could go into detail, but i'm too lazy. if you really want to know i'll type it, but as of now, no way, to tired.

lol yea, Im not sure bout the H./Forty Six & 2 thing... but there might be some kind of lyrical link somewhere...

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]i cant afford what he was using, but i just pick right against the bridge. sounds ok.
what i do need is a whammy bar, i really want to get the intro to prison sex down.[/QUOTE]
Thats a cool idea

I dont have time to give my complete thoughts on the subject but I doubt very much that H and 46 & 2 are linked (not deliberately, at least). There is some continuity with snake imagery, metamorphosis, etc. but I'd chalk it up to coincidence rather than a deliberate connection.

Your "theory" on Die Eier von Satan is not really much of a theory I'd encourage you to think about more and then give your thoughts. The idea that "not everything appears as it is" could be applied to just about any Tool song.

[QUOTE]Your "theory" on Die Eier von Satan is not really much of a theory[/QUOTE]
I never said it was a theory, I said it was a thought. and a small one at that.

Anyone know why in the APC videos in eMOTION they don't show maynards face?

My mistake, I apologize.

[QUOTE]My mistake, I apologize.[/QUOTE]
Thats fine it was a fair call.

[QUOTE]Anyone know why in the APC videos in eMOTION they don't show maynards face?[/QUOTE]
I dont think he likes appearing in video clips, He's only ever been shown properly in one I think. Hush by tool.

I think Die Eier Von Satan is the 665/667 of Tool, so yeah I think they did it to make fun of the notion that they're satanic.

[QUOTE=jensmatty]Thats fine it was a fair call.


I dont think he likes appearing in video clips, He's only ever been shown properly in one I think. Hush by tool.[/QUOTE]

3 Libras he's shown in all his glory.

(possibly cos he's surrounded by lots of lurverly ladies at one point).

Well here it is, my 1000th post, and there would be no better place to have it than in the best thread on these forums. So heres to another 1,000 posts.
-toasts-

hes been shown in judith as well, but they didn't really want to do that type of video.

as for the whammy bar i mentioned earlier, remedy said good idea. give credit to adam jones. he tunes the 6th string to b and pulls the whammy till the string is hanging there. thats one of most interesting non-effect effect i've ever heard.

Cheers to Otherside :chug:

And without doing a search on this thread, can somebody tell me who Zaum are? I think I might check them out if they're Tool related. I see them mentioned in the thread preview. Thanks.

hes in the outsider as well

[QUOTE=Werny]I think Die Eier Von Satan is the 665/667 of Tool, so yeah I think they did it to make fun of the notion that they're satanic.[/QUOTE]

have you read the translation of the lyrics?

the translation in no secret anymore. it's cool that he puts hashish in the recipe though.
for those of you who don't know, check out toolshed.down.net, and go to lyrics. they have the german and english translation.

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]hes in the outsider as well[/QUOTE]
heh, that geeky kid.

[QUOTE=Werny]What you said makes no sense, but I can try.

Either:
1) Except for the band, no one knows what the CD is called.

2) They're in studio now, so it's obviously going very well, at least now we know for sure it's coming out this year.[/QUOTE]

sorry its difficult for me to use the correct words sometimes, but thanx

I just finally finished downloading a bootleg video of Ticks & Leeches. Although the sound and picture quality wasn't 100%, I must say, it would have been amazing to be there. It just made me appreciate Tool slightly more, seeing how awesome there shows look. It's a pity Maynard and Justin weren't shown too much in it, but watching Danny and Adam play was cool. Thats all for now, consider this a bump :p

haha its funny, on the FAQ on toolshed, they said Maynard didn't want to do ticks & leeches live because the screaming rooted his voice for 3 weeks lol, When they do it live the vocals sound pretty sketchy coz I think they're using an effect for it instead of him screaming so that he could still do the rest of the freakin set lol. awsome live.

Yeah I'm pretty sure Maynard was using an effect on his voice, although the SUCK ME DRY screams came out quite well with it.

I've read the translation of the Die Eier Von Satan lyrics and it shows they're making fun of the Satanic notion because people will/would've go "oh, what a satanic song, this band is blasphemous!" but it's just a cake recipe. Soundgarden did the same thing, in two songs they had drums and warped guitar and Cornell screaming "santa, i love you baby (or something along those lines) but it was reversed so it sounded evil.

G_Mac, I have that video, but I don't remember seeing Maynard at all. And I do think that they're just using a scream effect on his voice.

[QUOTE]Yeah I'm pretty sure Maynard was using an effect on his voice, although the SUCK ME DRY screams came out quite well with it.[/QUOTE]
I think the scream for that was authentic lOl, but then the rest he pretty much just said the lyrics, you can hear it cracking out and stuff while he's singing. but it's still awsome, and fair enough that he refuses to do it live. must be painful to scream like that for that long! lol

Maynard can be seen it the video up the back, drinking bottles of water during the softer parts without vocals. Preparing for the scream I guess.

Vocalists sure love those bottles of water, with good reason of course. but still. Mer de noms live maynards holding a bottle the entire concert lol.

I'm not surprised - Maynard has some punishing screams
The length alone of the screams in Eulogy, Ticks and Leeches and The Grudge would be enough to pain anyone.

Just while we're talking about Maynard, mentioning Eulogy reminded me of something I've wondered -
What does Maynard (I assume it's Maynard, but it could be a sample) say during the break in Eulogy where Adam plays the arpeggiated B/E chord with pick slides? When he does the pick slides, there's definitely something said in the background

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]Maynard can be seen it the video up the back, drinking bottles of water during the softer parts without vocals. Preparing for the scream I guess.[/QUOTE]

I always wondered why there was the dragged out mellow part in that song. Now i know. Im guessing during it, MJk goes backstage and has throat surgery to do the last part of the song. The water thing was probably a one off.

Well in that case, for those of you who were lucky enough to see the Lateralus tour, did they play The Grudge? and did Maynard do the scream?

Also, nobody has answered my Zuam question :upset:

I havent seen them live, but I did find a live video of The Grudge, and he held it for 3/4 of the time he does on the album. Unfortunately the camera is almost constatly fixed on danny the whole way through, so you never get to see how MJk is sustaining it

A camera fixed on Danny isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially in a song like Ticks & Leeches. Although, I don't find his work in The Grudge as brilliant to listen to though.