Glad to see all the classic rock fans. The way I see it, most bands that come out are popular for a period of time, but eventually everyone gets tired of them. But classic bands like Led Zeppelin, ACDC, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Aerosmith, Black Sabbath, even Metallica and all the other classic rock bands are never forgotten. Every new generation discovers them and they aren't just a phase.

You know it must be a good band when people are still listening to them up to 30 years later.

[QUOTE=badmoon349]^ Yes, one of the greatest bands ever. That is when they have Joe Walsh. I have the [I]Yer[/I] album, and [I]Rides Again[/I], and those have to be two of the greatest CD's I own.


I don't recall anyone metioning The MC5.[/QUOT

MC5 are awesome
also try new york dolls, the sonics, and the greatest band of all time KISS

[QUOTE=RockAndRoll]are you talking to me? because i was insinuating I do have the woodstock DVD....[/QUOTE]


Ah, I was just refering that to anyone who cared and or listened :)

The thing about the degregation of [b]music[/b] (not just Rn'R)... well, if you examine it, its not such a suprise. I mean, all those songs that they danced to back in the 70's, (Not Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Greatful Dead, etc but more mainstream dance/pop music) say, Niel Sakadas stuff, for example, he wrote great music, 'Love will keep us together', etc, not rock, but you know, 70's music. Alot of thought went into the stuff he wrote and the piano bits and some of the chords and the transitions are just really catchy, yet its good musicianship. On the outside, it was simple music. Artists these days, they discard musicianship for catchyness and simplicity.

For example, Aaron Carters 'Candy' (In my sis was watching nicolodian (sp?) and they played this song, Ugh.) and its so fuc'king catchy, but the musicianship is close to nil. The lyrics mean nothing, no thought, just a nice catchy beat. But the fact is, aduiences can whilstle along to it and its an 'easy' song.

Electonica and synthicysers (sp?) made it worse, just being able to throw together sounds that make up music in a way. This starts coming into the late 80's and 90's and begins to worsen music, as people realise that it dosnt have to be 'good music' to sell, but just catchy. (Hence Hip hop and Rap, etc)

Meh, ive had too much time to think. It just that, everyones like, what the hell has happned to music and all, well, you could have seen it coming, mabye it wasnt obvious, but it was there, a tranistion to simpler and simpler music, that just sold.

DVG.

Umm..... what?

Yes but real musicianship is still recignised. If a song means something to the artist and the artist has pollished the song to near perfection before putting it on an album people will remember it in 30 years. That is what most classic rock bands do. These new bands just throw 4 powerchords into a basic drum rhthem and the bass player just plays a few different notes insted of brilliant well though out riffs. In classic rock the riffs are very important and are most of the time memorable.

This is all the product of the fact that it's just that easy to make money in the music bisiness these days. Screw being good if you can write an album and make half a million dollars and then stop with music. That's the whole attitude and i'm sick of it. There are still plenty of good bands but their sound is so different from the standard Mtv sound that the youth today doesn't care about it. For examplekenny wayne shepherd band makes an amazing album in 1999 yet the only people who buy it are people over the age of 40. It's cause they grew up on that sound and like it. Young people never give something different (at least for them) a chance.

Of course with this revolution more people are getting into classic rock, nu metal is fading and there seems to be a pretty healthy Alt and Indie scene. Things are looking up for music today.

[QUOTE]Aaron Carters 'Candy'[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind that that was a cover though. :)

[QUOTE]In classic rock the riffs are very important and are most of the time memorable. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, unless they basically noodle the song away. But that is usually done by bands that put lown emphasis on recording and more on live perfromances. Like The Grateful Dead, especially on their debut self titled album. That technique has been lost.

These days it's more about laying down some unoriginal power chord progression. Maybe with a few hammers, and a mediocre solo. Which it shouldn't be. You really can't even here the chord or anything at that because it is drownd in distortion.

[quote]Keep in mind that that was a cover though[/quote]

GAH! They can't even make their own music! And dare to turn it into a SINGLE! *fumes*

DVG.

[QUOTE=badmoon349]Keep in mind that that was a cover though. :)



Yeah, unless they basically noodle the song away. But that is usually done by bands that put lown emphasis on recording and more on live perfromances. Like The Grateful Dead, especially on their debut self titled album. That technique has been lost.

These days it's more about laying down some unoriginal power chord progression. Maybe with a few hammers, and a mediocre solo. Which it shouldn't be. You really can't even here the chord or anything at that because it is drownd in distortion.[/QUOTE]
Ya, I really don't like that, it's just background noise.

You can't even pick out the chords that they are using cause it's too distorted.

[QUOTE=badmoon349]

Yeah, unless they basically noodle the song away. But that is usually done by bands that put lown emphasis on recording and more on live perfromances. Like The Grateful Dead, especially on their debut self titled album. That technique has been lost.
.[/QUOTE]

Half of the grateful dead's shows are jammed anyway. One of the reasons why they rule :thumb:

How do you think the general middle/high school populace will respond to a band that does 'classic rock' style originals? Because I'm thinking whenever I form a band, thats what I'll want to do. If kids really want something like this, and I"m a monopoly......$$$$ :)

Anyway, I'm dreaming.

Whats your opinions on this?

I think that it has to be a sort of hard rock Ac/dc type thing. Absolutely no blues allowed or they will hate it.

Don't just do a well known Classic Rock song, that's to predictable. Do something from like...The Stooges or The MC5. Most of them won't know who they are, they're not that complicated of songs, and since they have that Hard Rock touch, most will love it.

Go forth my child :thumb:

favourite bands of mine include the beatles and the doors. definitly masters who need recognition but not to the point where we have teenagers listening to them because its "cool".

my parents always point out i like many bands that;
A. have dead members
B. i wasnt even concieved when their music was made.

I don't think they will nessecarily hate it, it depends what kind of blues... blues blues won't be welcomed so much but lets say zeppelin blues I think would do fine. (that was to rock not roll[ed])

In my writing (which has yet to be played in conert) there is definitely alot of classic rock influence, I'd say in terms of my drumming style the doors and the who are huge influences. The doors influence I think comes through in our music, even with the current lack of lyrics, and keyboards. My lead guitarist's probably most influenced by Hendrix and Page. My rhythm guitarist is is most influenced i think by the doors and the beatles. And my bassist's biggest writing influence is John Entwhistle.

I'm not rolled anymore! Woo go me!

On topic, I think there will be a lot of people that would like a good MC5 song even though they have never heard it before. And then there will be people who want you to play a Blink182 song. My advice, play what you like to play! Keep it real. You can't please the world so just please yourself.

I would play Phish - Down with Disease.

[QUOTE=RockAndRoll]Cream *drools* their song sra ejust completely mindblowingly amazingly good.

"twice upon a time in the valley of the tears the auctioneer is bidding on a box of fading years"[/QUOTE]


Agreed. I don't care how egotistical they were, they were amazing.

[QUOTE=badmoon349]Dazed and Confused?[/QUOTE]

**** I wish I wasn't gone for a few days, I'm pretty sure that's it. Somebody working on the movie (director probably) convinced them to let him use that song. Sorry if its been said, I just got back today.

Yes indeed they were very good. When you're that good it's your right to be egotistical.

VAN HALEN sept 17!!!!!!!!!

I think We all have to look at it this way, ofcoarse classic rock is coming back, how could it not, with songs like hotel california, and stairway, and shine on you crazy diamond, it is amazing that classic rock is not the most popular type of music, in my mind rap/hip hop, is not even music, and when you see people with really talent like jimmy paige, and jimi hendrix its amazing that there music isnt still topping the charts even though it may be old. Classic rock will live forever!!!!!

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Okey, all of this spamzorzing is making me lose track of the conversations i'm having in the thread. Let's see, allmans, van halen rules, shred while juming off things, Joni>moon... i'm lost.[/QUOTE]

Sweet. I thought I was one the only people in this thread who like Van Halen. I've been working on tapping too. Its fun when it comes out right.

There are lots of people who like Van Halen, They are a great band with one of the greatest guitarists in the history of music. :thumb:

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Yes indeed they were very good. When you're that good it's your right to be egotistical.[/QUOTE]

Yea it was definently their right. Too bad it broke them up.

[QUOTE=rock not roll]There are lots of people who like Van Halen, They are a great band with one of the greatest guitarists in the history of music. :thumb:[/QUOTE]


yes vh are great although i tend to live david lee roth better than sammy hagar cuz i feel that hes the better singer and performer out of the two.but van halen is still great even without david. glad to see they are touring again :thumb: .

Why did I not know cream was egotistical?:confused::upset: They did an amzingly large number of awesome songs considering they were together for a very shot amount of time.

About the song Candy (recently released by Aron Carter) They stole the music to that song from Bo Didley's Who Do You Love. It was coverd in the sixties by Iron Butterfly, and then some dip**** in the seventies or eighties changed the words and we get this ****ty pop song with and awesome beat. Its sick, im surprised bo didley's estate hasnt sued someone.