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toolfreak 04-14-2006 08:09 PM

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Here's what I've revised from what a previous poster had tried to do as far as lyrics go...

I've only added a few words here and there that I got. Still a lot of missing spots.

[I]Eye on the TV cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavor it happens to be
Like about a husband drowned by the ocean
Shunned by his own son
He used a poison

It’s my kind of story
Its no fun till someone dies

Don’t look at me like I am a monster
Frown out your one face, but with the other
Stare like a junkie into the TV
Stare like a zombie
While the mother who holds her child
Watches him die
Hands to the sky crying
Why oh why

Cause I need to watch things die from a distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies

Why can’t we just admit it
Why can’t we just admit it
We won’t get -----until the blood is flowing

I need to watch things die form a good safe distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
You all the feel the same
So why cant we just admit it

[missing] desire to believe in angels in the hearts of men
Pull you hair on out [missing]

We all fear a tragedy
[missing] vampire
[/I]

I get the feeling its about renunciation from the world around you. "Vicariously I live while the whole world dies". Not allowing the world to affect you as an individual, a sense of identity separation from the world. "Stare like a zombie into the TV". Maynard has often expressed his dislike for TV, which is also the source of all media/bullsh'it that keeps young minds closed and such. It also reminds me of previous ideas in Lateralus. The idea of being eternal. Anyways thats my short little summary of the meaning I'm getting from it. I just couldn't help myself...I had to say something about the meaning.[/QUOTE]


lol dude thats like exactly wat i was thinking thats awsome

deadohiosky9 04-14-2006 08:12 PM

Haha, that's awesome man. I'm glad I'm not the only one getting those sorts of ideas from it. It almost seems like a post-self awareness song/album. While Lateralus focused on self-awareness and philosophies, etc., this seems to focus more on taking those ideas and applying them to your surroundings and such.

Sleeper 04-14-2006 08:14 PM

Man oh man, finally new material to sift out it's meaning.

toolfreak 04-14-2006 08:14 PM

Definantly man im looking forward to unravelling the messages the whole album delivers hey..i love the way maynard can write with meaning like that hey

Sleeper 04-14-2006 08:16 PM

Didn't they say that Maynard was doing a new style of singing for the new album. If so, what do you guys think of it? I personally like the way he sings the "da daa da" part in the song.

deadohiosky9 04-14-2006 08:16 PM

Yeah this song has got me very excited about the ideas that other songs and the album as a whole will throw at us.

I didn't like Maynard's new style of singing at first, but it's really grown on me now. I think it's very strong, and I like how it sounds sort of distanced and even more in the background than usual, (if anyone knows what I'm talking about.) It reinforces the idea of Maynard's voice just being another instrument and part of the Tool collective.

EDIT: New thought-- does anyone else feel the first lines "eye on the tv/casue tragedy thrills me/whatever the flavor" sound a bit sarcastic?

toolfreak 04-14-2006 08:18 PM

[QUOTE=Remedy]Didn't they say that Maynard was doing a new style of singing for the new album. If so, what do you guys think of it? I personally like the way he sings the "da daa da" part in the song.[/QUOTE]

maynards vocals are definently behind the music again in lateralus they were a little more prominant i suppose but it will grow on me more

Sleeper 04-14-2006 08:19 PM

I wonder if Isis had any influence on his new style of singing, like the being buried by the instrument's sound.

deadohiosky9 04-14-2006 08:19 PM

Toolfreak, you and I think very much alike.

Remedy, I don't think ISIS had much influence in that aspect. It just seems like part of Tool tradition. I remember first hearing them and wondering why their singer couldn't sing louder.

toolfreak 04-14-2006 08:22 PM

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Toolfreak, you and I think very much alike.

Remedy, I don't think ISIS had much influence in that aspect. It just seems like part of Tool tradition. I remember first hearing them and wondering why their singer couldn't sing louder.[/QUOTE]


yeah i was a bit like that i must admit i got into tool on my second listen cause the first time i couldnt hear much so i didnt like it that much..

deadohiosky9 04-14-2006 08:23 PM

Yeah, and now that thought seems so ridiculous. I don't even notice his "low singing" anymore.

Sleeper 04-14-2006 08:23 PM

Yes, I mostly thought of that because i knew they were freinds with Isis. I first noticed that in Stinkfist.

toolfreak 04-14-2006 08:24 PM

So have any of you guys put in a pre-order for the new album?

Sleeper 04-14-2006 08:26 PM

No, I would rather like to walk into the store and find that it's been sold out, but i really should pre-order it.

deadohiosky9 04-14-2006 08:27 PM

I might go reserve a copy at Best-Buy the day before or something. But I'm not gonna pre-order because it ships on the release date, so I wouldn't have the album until after May 2nd, and I can't wait, especially when Best Buy is two minutes from my house.

Sleeper 04-14-2006 08:28 PM

I thought it came out May 2nd?

deadohiosky9 04-14-2006 08:29 PM

Well they would ship the album ON May 2nd, so I wouldn't get it for at least 2-3 days.

Sleeper 04-14-2006 08:29 PM

Yeah, that would be my biggest fear to. Reserving is your best action, I wonder if any stores would have a release party?

toolfreak 04-14-2006 08:30 PM

see jb hifi in oz are letting people pre-order for 20 bucks rather than paying 30 lol

deadohiosky9 04-14-2006 08:32 PM

Best Buy is selling it for 14.99.

Anyways, I'm still listening to Vicarious and good god it has some amazing drumming.

toocool4tool 04-14-2006 08:32 PM

okay guys. lets start leaking the rest of the album. we have all her vicarious. Lets hear the rest.

madeyadams 04-14-2006 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=Remedy]Yeah, that would be my biggest fear to. Reserving is your best action, I wonder if any stores would have a release party?[/QUOTE]

Remember there were those release parties for NIN? I heard many people didn't get their copy they ordered at those until a few days after the release date, because they wanted to keep people from leaking it too early or something. Yeah. I dunno.

toocool4tool 04-14-2006 08:34 PM

you are gonna buy it thats cool. we all get it. Now lets start getting the free ****.

toolfreak 04-14-2006 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Best Buy is selling it for 14.99.

Anyways, I'm still listening to Vicarious and good god it has some amazing drumming.[/QUOTE]

yeah man didnt they say dannys drumming was gunne be awsome? hes pretty damn good

deadohiosky9 04-14-2006 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=toocool4tool]you are gonna buy it thats cool. we all get it. Now lets start getting the free ****.[/QUOTE]

You are obviously a fake poster/joke poster and also a dumb poster, you're not funny, you're not cool. Stop posting please.

Also, didn't Danny use an electronic drumset for this new album or something?

toocool4tool 04-14-2006 08:36 PM

im not an imposter. I want the rest of the album.

Sleeper 04-14-2006 08:36 PM

[QUOTE=madeyadams]Remember there were those release parties for NIN? I heard many people didn't get their copy they ordered at those until a few days after the release date, because they wanted to keep people from leaking it too early or something. Yeah. I dunno.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure Trent did everything in his power for people not to listen to the album a day before it was released.

I'm waiting to hear the new album when i buy it, I can listen to this single till the release. I'm comfortable knowing that Tool's direction is going to be good, but watch the new album is nothing like the single (which it might be).

toocool4tool 04-14-2006 08:37 PM

trent reznors last album, whatever it was called, was horrible.

deadohiosky9 04-14-2006 08:37 PM

NIN are playing here sometime, I never was a fan though.

toolfreak 04-14-2006 08:39 PM

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]You are obviously a fake poster/joke poster and also a dumb poster, you're not funny, you're not cool. Stop posting please.

Also, didn't Danny use an electronic drumset for this new album or something?[/QUOTE]


i think he used more elctronic drums my bro has a full electronic kit man its laid out lol

toocool4tool 04-14-2006 08:39 PM

Why is NIN being discussed in the tool forum? They have a NIN forum for you guys to go cry to each other about.

madeyadams 04-14-2006 08:39 PM

Man. I haven't listened to Tool in the longest time. After listening to this song, I'm definitely gonna bust out Aenima, Lateralus, and Opiate and fall in love with them again.

Sleeper 04-14-2006 08:39 PM

With Teeth was a solid album, nothing great though. I've been a NIN fan for a long time and i will still put it on and listen to the whole album.

Edit:toocool4tool it's ok to talk about other artists in the Tool thread, I guess we can't talk about Isis then.

deadohiosky9 04-14-2006 08:40 PM

Electronic or not, his drumming has undoubtedly intensified. There are some sweet bass fills as well.

toolfreak 04-14-2006 08:40 PM

Back to tool now

Sleeper 04-14-2006 08:41 PM

I want to send this song to Tool Tabs so they can start tabbing it, I want to learn the bass parts.

toocool4tool 04-14-2006 08:41 PM

no. isis blows. we cant talk about them. Keep it tool leaks.

deadohiosky9 04-14-2006 08:41 PM

This song reminds me of EMOTIVE.

toocool4tool 04-14-2006 08:42 PM

How does everyone feel about Vicarious. Im sure you all understand its meaning.

Sleeper 04-14-2006 08:42 PM

[QUOTE=toocool4tool]no. isis blows. we cant talk about them. Keep it tool leaks.[/QUOTE]
Your opinion, but i'm sure we can talk about whatever we want in here.

I really like the song and the meaning, I've given it a good listen to for about 10 times.


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