take my dry ride for example. 20", medium-heavy, small bell. sounds like crap crashed

take a thin, big bell sweet ride though...and well...thats just a big crash with definition

a HH Heavy ride 22"? how good for rock and some jazz, bossa, blues and maybe punk

[QUOTE=The Dropper]Yes, but there are times when a heavy ride can be crashed and that sound can be useful.[/QUOTE]I can think of one. When you are playing Lateralus, and don't have a nice big gong like Danny Carey.

[QUOTE=playwithfire]I can think of one. When you are playing Lateralus, and don't have a nice big gong like Danny Carey.[/QUOTE]
See? There you go.

:)

[QUOTE=Mike Goes Numb]So I want to replace my crappy 16" ZBT crash.

Crash
Blends as opposed to cut.
Dark.
Medium to long decay.
Good for crash-riding. Not to be confused with playing like a ride.[/QUOTE]

Wow, brain fart. I have no idea why I wrote bright. So basically, I fixed it. Any suggestions?

K Dark crash Thins. My advice still stands.

Wow, Im doing bad tonight, missed that in your last post playwithfire. I'll definetly have to check one of those out. The sample sounds wonderful enough.

Dark crash Medium Thin would be good too, try out the 17" and 19" of each.

Yes, I'd say look more into the Med. Thins if you wanna be crash riding it too. The 17" Thins tend to max out, and peak, and my 19" Thin is like full wash, so you may want a little more definition.

[QUOTE=playwithfire]Dark crash Medium Thin would be good too, try out the 17" and 19" of each.[/QUOTE]
Yes, those are god.

i beleive that it is possible to match a second crash to another one based only on the first cymbal ans i was wondering if this applies to other cymbals, ex. hi-hats from a ride?

if so, which hi-hats would you recommend for;
sabian raw bell dry ride/zildjian k custom ride?

It's about time I got a new crash, my dented/cracked istanbul really just isn't doin it for me. Would saving up for a A Custom medium 18 inch crash be a good choice?

[QUOTE=little_drummer_boy1]i beleive that it is possible to match a second crash to another one based only on the first cymbal ans i was wondering if this applies to other cymbals, ex. hi-hats from a ride?

if so, which hi-hats would you recommend for;
sabian raw bell dry ride/zildjian k custom ride?[/QUOTE]

K Custom Dark Crash 17" or over
K Custom Special Dry Crashes

[QUOTE=yourstruly]It's about time I got a new crash, my dented/cracked istanbul really just isn't doin it for me. Would saving up for a A Custom medium 18 inch crash be a good choice?[/QUOTE]
yes. quite versetile.

[QUOTE=playwithfire]That's not usually an enjoyable sound. There's a reason it's called "crashability" not "ride-being-crashed potential". Most rides being crashed sound like gongy pieces of crap, somewhere in between Crash County and Gong Land in it's own little country called Garbage.[/QUOTE]
just off Thrash-Ride Lane :lol:

[QUOTE=little_drummer_boy1]i beleive that it is possible to match a second crash to another one based only on the first cymbal ans i was wondering if this applies to other cymbals, ex. hi-hats from a ride?

if so, which hi-hats would you recommend for;
sabian raw bell dry ride/zildjian k custom ride?[/QUOTE]

Well, it kinda depends on the music your playing and personal preference, but...

HHX Groove hats
HHX Evolution hats
K Custom Special Dry hats
K Custom Session hats

i would like hats to play with rock - heavy metal but i usually prefer more studio sounding cymbals

new beats

im looking to pick up some new hats,
price range: 100-300 USD
brands: any, no preference
need: versatility, recording ease, use in: metal, jazz, rock anything in between
Size: 14"
anyhelp would be appreciated

aax stage hats

What do ye think of Meinl Byzance cymbals? I'm looking at a classic china.

AAX Stage Hats, A Custom or Z Custom Mastersounds, possibly K/Z Dyno Beats or Byzance Mediums if you like Meinl, great brand.
Classic Chinas are a thumbs down. I wouldn't reccomend one.
Go with a AA Fast China or AAXtreme. ;)

[QUOTE=little_drummer_boy1]i would like hats to play with rock - heavy metal but i usually prefer more studio sounding cymbals[/QUOTE]

14" A/Z Combo with ZC on top.

[QUOTE=3_times_round]14" A/Z Combo with ZC on top.[/QUOTE]

then that would defeat the purpose of having an A at all. if youre gonna do that lose the Z and just get a damn A pair.

It doesn't "Defeat the purpose" at all.
It provides a heavier sound with a slight musicality hint.

[QUOTE=meizmatt]im looking to pick up some new hats,
price range: 100-300 USD
brands: any, no preference
need: versatility, recording ease, use in: metal, jazz, rock anything in between
Size: 14"
anyhelp would be appreciated[/QUOTE]

New Beats

Hey how much do you think I could expect to get for the following cymbals, all used but in very good condition, no cracks and not many stick marks:

Solar 20" Ride
Solar 16" Crash
Solar 14" Hi-hats
Solar 10" splash
and maybe a pair or either ZBT plus or regular ZBT zildjian 14" hi-hats.

I've partially upgraded my cymbals and need some new heads and stands, will these maybe cover at least that?

[QUOTE=DuckinFutch]Hey how much do you think I could expect to get for the following cymbals, all used but in very good condition, no cracks and not many stick marks:

Solar 20" Ride
Solar 16" Crash
Solar 14" Hi-hats
Solar 10" splash
and maybe a pair or either ZBT plus or regular ZBT zildjian 14" hi-hats.

I've partially upgraded my cymbals and need some new heads and stands, will these maybe cover at least that?[/QUOTE]
You won't get much except from severe n00bs. I wouldn't bank on more than $100 for all of the Solars, maybe.

alright, well that's pretty good, I should be able to at least get my heads with that...

And maybe a stand or so...

Any estimate on the ZBT hi-hats?

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]New Beats[/QUOTE]


The last 2 posts by you that's all you've said. I'm certain if I look back a couple pages I will see more of it :lol:

I've heard mixed feelings about the zildjian ZXT china's. Do they really dent that easy or are people just striking them wrong?

I can get a 16" for £50 = 75 euro = $88
or a 18" for £75 = 111 euro = $132

which is the better or should i stay away!!

[QUOTE=Bowler]I've heard mixed feelings about the zildjian ZXT china's. Do they really dent that easy or are people just striking them wrong?

I can get a 16" for £50 = 75 euro = $88
or a 18" for £75 = 111 euro = $132

which is the better or should i stay away!![/QUOTE]

stay away. get a wuhan. cheaper...better. win win situation.

Thanks i'll look into it straight away, can you get wuhan in Europe? I'm in Ireland and have never seen 1!

[QUOTE=Bowler]Thanks i'll look into it straight away, can you get wuhan in Europe? I'm in Ireland and have never seen 1![/QUOTE]

Wembley drum centre stock them.

But your best bet is too look into Stagg China's if your from Ireland.

[QUOTE=Bowler]Thanks i'll look into it straight away, can you get wuhan in Europe? I'm in Ireland and have never seen 1![/QUOTE]

yeah as chris said look into the stag ones then. basically the same.

Ok, I need some suggestions for these cymbals. Any brand. Do whatever you think is right. Mix match brands, anything.

Hi Hat's
Crash 1 (No smaller then 17" for the crashes please)
Crash 2
Ride

They need to be somewhat versatile.
I can see myself playing in a few types of different bands in the future. So, they need to be able to compliment each well. Range goes from soft rock, indie, pop-rock, rock, hardcore, and metal. You get the idea. Just different hybrids of rock basically.

[quote=forgottenDRUMMER]yeah as chris said look into the stag ones then. basically the same.[/quote]

I have 2 of the SH ones and can try and get sound clips if it'll help

[QUOTE=full collapse]Ok, I need some suggestions for these cymbals. Any brand. Do whatever you think is right. Mix match brands, anything.

Hi Hat's
Crash 1 (No smaller then 17" for the crashes please)
Crash 2
Ride

They need to be somewhat versatile.
I can see myself playing in a few types of different bands in the future. So, they need to be able to compliment each well. Range goes from soft rock, indie, pop-rock, rock, hardcore, and metal. You get the idea. Just different hybrids of rock basically.

Example of bands- Straylight Run, Death Cab For Cutie, Boys Night Out, Circa Survive, Gatsby's American Dream, Hidden In Plain View, Northstar, Thursday, Refused, Underminded, Underoath, Hopesfall, Converge, Dillinger Escape Plan, Ed Gein, Reflux.

Sorry this is so complicated. Only way I could really describe what I wanted. Cymbals that can be played in these type of musical context.[/QUOTE]

Hi-hats- AA regular hats or AAX stage hats
Crashes- 17inch AA medium thin crash 18inch AA medium crash
ride-hand hammered raw bell dry ride

[QUOTE=full collapse]Ok, I need some suggestions for these cymbals. Any brand. Do whatever you think is right. Mix match brands, anything.
[/QUOTE]

Hi Hat's = New Beats

I think I have three of these on one page :thumb:

Im looking for a website that sells cheap wuhans and ships worldwide....? anyone help me out