TKAA was what really made me a Who fanatic. I had listened to my dad's records of Who's Next and Who Are You, but wasn't altogether impressed (I liked Who Are You, Won't Get Fooled Again, Behind Blue Eyes, etc. but that was it). I got them on CD for myself (again, don't ask me why). Then a year later we rented the 30 Years of Max RnB video, which was my first look at live Who. I was throughorly impressed. Heaven and Hell really blew my mind (but I didn't listen to it again for another 6 months or so), as well as the other songs. Too much Kenney Jones, though, wasn't impressed much with him (still ain't, probably the worst drummer the Who has had).

Then about 2-3 weeks later we got TKAA DVD from the library. When I heard "See Me, Feel Me" from Woodstock, it sold me (even though I had seen that same exact song from the Woodstock movie, but it was back in Middle School and none of that music really impressed me much. Too much of a Beatles-only fanatic back then). As if that wasn't enough, the epic slow mo slide of WGFA made me orgasm.

Since then, the Who have really risen far and high.

I became a Who fanatic pretty quickly- I was looking through the garage and found every studio Who album from 1966-1978, as well as [I]It's Hard[/I] and a few compilations, and a record player. It was like sudden overflowing of good music.

My dad is and was a huge Who fan, so I pretty much grew up on them at a very early age. He'd always play Who's Next and Who Are You quite frequently way back when. It wasnt until about 4 years ago when I started getting serious with music and became a big fan of the Who (not as big as Lunch or JXD, of course)

One thing that pissed me off about their Woodstock performance is how Daltry kept swinging the mic. It's all he did the entire time, and always in the same way.

grr

[QUOTE=zabbit82]My dad is and was a huge Who fan, so I pretty much grew up on them at a very early age. He'd always play Who's Next and Who Are You quite frequently way back when. It wasnt until about 4 years ago when I started getting serious with music and became a big fan of the Who (not as big as Lunch or JXD, of course)[/QUOTE]
I became interested after hearing Odds And Sods. Kind of a strange compilation, that one. Some quirky songs on there as they are known to do sometimes. I thought "WTF. These can't be the Baba 'O Riley guys". Now I'm A Farmer ftl. But it kept me interested and my mom had Meaty Beaty Big And Bouncy (damn sexy title) and I liked it. Then I saw TKAA at a local theater that was showing that and The Song Remains The Same for some reason. Some sort of cheap revival. At 11 years old the Zep film just blew. And WTF with that guy with the violin bow? shi...made my ears bleed.

But then TKAA came on and that was it. These guys were nuts and I loved it. Smashing things, windmills, the sound, the noise, the insanity of it all. And the music was just this awesome sound. I was overwhelmed. I sat there falling in love and I kind of knew it. I left the theater trying to leap like Townshend and never looked back :)
[QUOTE=fwqhgads]One thing that pissed me off about their Woodstock performance is how Daltry kept swinging the mic. It's all he did the entire time, and always in the same way.

grr[/QUOTE]
i never liked Daltreys posing back then. i don't know if it was the "hippie" thing of the day or his "Tommy" image he was trying to maintain, but it was ill suited for The Who. and the fringe and boots and bobbing and weaving of that head of hair on him. i just want to slap him. i know he's the front man and what not, but gimme a break.

:smash:

ATTN: John.

Get Skype omfg

are you guys kidding me? Roger's mic swinging was his trademark, like Pete's windmilling. It's what made the Who.

So if Roger's stage presence wasn't 'Who' material, then explain John please.

Your logic sucks.

I never had a problem with Roger's performance during the Tommy years. It was a little fluff, but that's what Tommy called for. Roger delivered the character perfectly I think, while still balancing his rock side and delivering on tracks like Young Man Blues, Shakin' All Over, etc.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]So if Roger's stage presence wasn't 'Who' material, then explain John please. Your logic sucks.[/QUOTE]
:upset:


His stage presence was fine. And I liked his mic swinging. Love it, as a matter of fact. But I've never cared for the whole hippie thing. And its well known neither did the Who. Pete paid them lip service because of the initial spiritual side of the movement, but the rest thought they were bollocks. I think Lunch can back me on this one. These were former sharp dressed mods and art school students. And as they evolved Pete became "anti-fashion" with the overalls and Doc Martins, Keith was just a wierdo, and John wore strange costumes. They weren't exactly Jefferson Airplane, if you get my drift.

And then we have Roger. Posing it up for the hippies with the fringe and the I don't know WTF? It bothers me to see him hanging in the background "grooving" while the band explodes around him. I'd prefer he just stood there. When I see The Who perform Water from the IOW DVD I want to shoot my tv from all his fake posing. I've got no prob with Rog except during this period. It wasn't the hair or fashion in particular. Just his physical performance and posing. Although similar in later years it seemed he was just doing the generic "hippie pose" during this time. It irritates me. The Who were very far from Peace and Love. And I like them that way. The somewhat "out there" Tommy notwithstanding.


EDIT to Jeff: I'm not quite sure what Skype is but I will google it and find out. Have an idea. Internet radio of some sort, I think? Sounds cool...

I think Roger's "posing" was spot on...

[QUOTE=JXD]EDIT to Jeff: I'm not quite sure what Skype is but I will google it and find out. Have an idea. Internet radio of some sort, I think? Sounds cool...[/QUOTE]
It's a voice over IP thing..

Do you have a mic? We have MX conferences. :cool:

Also, about the whole Roger thing, I dunno. It just kind of bothered me that he would sing a line, then swing his mic, sing another, swing it again (in the same way), sing a line, dance around a bit with the tassels moving around, then swing it again. There is no doubt that he truly delivered with what he did do, but his stage "antics" weren't too refined in those days...

lol wtf

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ied-kZKB4oo&NR[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybt1nHHdyGQ[/url]

not sure if this was mentioned yet or not, but patton's Peeping Tom are opening for the who at MSG this month..........

[QUOTE=fwqhgads]It's a voice over IP thing..

Do you have a mic? We have MX conferences. :cool:[/QUOTE]
this sounds cool. i'm in. gotta get a mic, though. i'll pic one up later this week. i'm assuming they are basically plug & play devices.
[QUOTE=fwqhgads]lol wtf

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ied-kZKB4oo&NR[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybt1nHHdyGQ[/url][/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE=deejuks2]not sure if this was mentioned yet or not, but patton's Peeping Tom are opening for the who at MSG this month..........[/QUOTE]
yeah. everyone wants to play with the Who. and the Who aren't a afraid to have younger, more "modern" bands open. they kick arse nonetheless :)



[b]EDIT: New Quadrophenia review at sputnik. Very short.....
<_<[/b]

I find it interesting how as music has evolved and times have passed, younger and modern bands continue to respect the Who. When punk was getting big in the late 70's most of their deal was to hate the older rock groups that in their views were outdated, but they always respected the Who. Even today, the Who are able to play at things like the Virgin Fest (and various other big events in Europe) with mostly younger modern groups.

Who's Next is still in my top 10 of favorite albums.....It's amazing!

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]are you guys kidding me? Roger's mic swinging was his trademark[/QUOTE]

I would like to think that his singing was his trademark.

[QUOTE=JXD]this sounds cool. i'm in. gotta get a mic, though. i'll pic one up later this week. i'm assuming they are basically plug & play devices.[/QUOTE]
Headsets work best

>_>

John: Careful about blaming Roger for the hippie imagery. Remember that Pete was the one most interested in the pop art/image of the band which eventually brought them to the psychedelic clothing style in the later 60's. Moon and Entwislte predictably stayed away from it, but Townshend was pushing the band in his own directions artistically by 1967. Look what he's wearing at Monterey or other photos from the time. Townshend was also the art college student and the only member who seriously experimented with marijuana and psychedelics, although he stopped soon after some bad experiences with STP. While it is true that he shifted out of trying to appeal to hippies as the 60's winded down, don't blame soley Roger for continuing his part in the scheme for a few years.

i think Roger's worst front man persona period was in the Kenney Jones era, personally.

Essentially, Mods were Britain's Hippies

=o

Only in the sense that they were both movements that many teenagers bought into, most of their noteworthy characteristics aren't very similar.

Yes, that's what I mean. They were both counter-culture movements.

I think the "hippie" look of Roger during the Tommy period suited him perfectly. I think he seemed more at ease on stage during that time than he did earlier in their career.

Lunch I want to address your last post but haven't the time. working from home atm. want to leave these for you guys right now:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3REa5oYRXE[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Pete+Townshend&search=Search[/url]

The second is a crap load of pete stuff. interviews, music, etc...the first is pearl jam doing Baba 'O Riley. they do a geat job but don't quite deliver the finish. still nice. found both at pete's site.

:wave:

Lunch I want to address your last post but haven't the time. working from home atm. want to leave these for you guys right now:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3REa5oYRXE[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Pete+Townshend&search=Search[/url]

The second is a crap load of pete stuff. interviews, music, etc...the first is pearl jam doing Baba 'O Riley. they do a geat job but don't quite deliver the finish. still nice. found both at pete's site.
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Just giving this a soft bump because its easy to miss at the bottom of the last page. I also wanted to add this:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fm51QBZYLU&mode=related&search=[/url]

I know a lot of you youtube, but sometimes you gotta go deep. This is funny and interesting. Poor Kieth. And contrary to what someone commented I believe Keith is there for much of the song. I faintly hear drums, but can't see him. Of course the band plays on, 'cause after all this is the Who. Also the power of the band is extraordinary in spite of the bad sound. Good deal.

Outstanding live video montage with The Who's cover of "Saturday Nights Alright For Fighting"
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5v48Am2l0M&mode=related&search=[/url]

Short movie trailer for Quadrophenia
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrlx6l0C4Ts&mode=related&search=[/url]

A MUST see. The greatness of this speaks for itself. Clicky:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfDE-ZvfOwU&mode=related&search=[/url]

John is too good. He's the only bassist (except for maybe Phil Lesh) that I can listen to song in and song out and just be constantly amazed. I mean on that take of WGFA it's Entwistle doesn't even need the rest of the band to make it interesting.

Another thing I notice for the attentive viewer is the discipline put forth by him. It looks as if it took real effort to play like him. If you notice at the beginning when the song begins in earnerst he takes a very deep breath and leans into his instrument a bit. And at the end you see more deep breathes and some relief at the very end. What it must of took for him to play like that and just [i]stand[/i] there with all that mayhem around. And after the synth break you can see the top of Pete's head pass him by as he just flew acrosss the stage onto his kness and John just sort of chuckles and plays on. Just really great footage.