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Natty666 10-05-2005 08:39 AM

[QUOTE=blue3]Yeah. I always thought RATM and Soundgarden were awesome bands but Audioslave was just okay.. But I changed my mind after I saw them live, Audioslave rules.[/QUOTE]

yeah, i hadnt really listened to them that much before i went to see them live and i thought that they were amazing. i would have loved to have seen RATM live though :upset: they're in a completely different league to audioslave.

blue3 10-05-2005 10:33 PM

Audioslave live on Much Music tomorrow, for those who live in Canada.

(>dragon~guitarist<) 10-05-2005 11:04 PM

Audioslave live? Can't compare to Rage live, but who am I to say, I have yet to see Audioslave live. Though I heard they play Soundgarden and Rage songs live, maybe i'll buy their new dvd when it comes out.

yeoldetattoosupply 10-05-2005 11:12 PM

yeah the self title album is sweet

blue3 10-05-2005 11:23 PM

I wish I've seen Rage live.

Bass_ment 10-06-2005 10:43 AM

I'm sure we all woulda loved to see Rage live, but we can't. So its time to move on.

.Realm.of.Chaos. 10-06-2005 10:56 AM

RATM would be crazy to see live, **** you Audioslave i hate them so much

Aberrationbass 10-06-2005 02:40 PM

thing is with Rage theres a chance they could get back like with Pantera lets just hope none of them die before it happens........

Mambuto_O'Mally 10-06-2005 03:27 PM

^^^
Shut up, you're going to jinx it.

Shaft! 10-06-2005 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=Aberrationbass]thing is with Rage theres a chance they could get back like with Pantera lets just hope none of them die before it happens........[/QUOTE]
If they did get back together, it would ruin them. If Zack didn't think that speaking at the U.N. or protesting outside of Wall Street and the DNC wasn't effective enough, what would happen from their revival? Nothing in the eyes of Zack. It'd be like they're selling out because they knew they were popular. What is there for them to do anymore? All the other bands have taken political turns, so what could they possibly do? "Show 'em how it's done?"
It'd be like repeating everything someone else has already said. There's nothing for them to be original about right now.

Mambuto_O'Mally 10-06-2005 07:48 PM

Wow...never have I heard such blasphemy. I think you're terribly wrong. YOu see many people only heard of them after they split up, like me. So those people were only left with their live DVD's which nearly as good as the actual show. I'm not asking for another CD, I just want to see them live.

Shaft! 10-08-2005 01:08 PM

I don't think I'm wrong because I think Zack believes that.

blue3 10-10-2005 01:44 AM

I finally got 'Battle of Los Angeles' today. Awesome album.

laba 10-10-2005 02:41 AM

What would be the best three songs of RATM for Drums??

-The Frank 10-10-2005 02:56 AM

[QUOTE=laba]What would be the best three songs of RATM for Drums??[/QUOTE]

bulls on parade is really fun to play on drums

Mambuto_O'Mally 10-10-2005 08:01 AM

Freedom is good and maybe Vietnow.

frmautumTOashes 10-10-2005 08:45 AM

People of the Sun sounds fun to play on drums, but I'm not a drummer so I don't know.

Bass_ment 10-10-2005 08:56 AM

Just to throw in my two cents, I don't think that Rage will ever get back together again. There would be no purpose because both Zack and Tom (the most politically active) are both allready pursuing political goals without using the band.

If they got back together again it would just be to tour. and hey I absolutely loved seeing Black Sabbath live, but quite honestly, when you get to the point that you are a reunion band, you do lose a lot of your relevance to anyone who is not a fan. It would be great to see them live, but Rage were never just about touring. And if their members can't be allowed to attempt something different then they will simply fade into the background with thier legions of fans, but without the means or importance to make their message truly heard.

Darkness 10-10-2005 10:29 AM

Ghost of Tom Joad has some thrashy drums.

laba 10-10-2005 03:38 PM

Thanks for the replies, I personally like playing Killing In The Name as it has an 8bar solo...any other less popular Rage songs that have Drum Solos?

Shaft! 10-10-2005 06:20 PM

[QUOTE=Bass_ment]Just to throw in my two cents, I don't think that Rage will ever get back together again. There would be no purpose because both Zack and Tom (the most politically active) are both allready pursuing political goals without using the band.

If they got back together again it would just be to tour. and hey I absolutely loved seeing Black Sabbath live, but quite honestly, when you get to the point that you are a reunion band, you do lose a lot of your relevance to anyone who is not a fan. It would be great to see them live, but Rage were never just about touring. And if their members can't be allowed to attempt something different then they will simply fade into the background with thier legions of fans, but without the means or importance to make their message truly heard.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. I feel the same way.
The analogy was quite clever, as well.

Mambuto_O'Mally 10-10-2005 09:02 PM

[QUOTE=Bass_ment]but quite honestly, when you get to the point that you are a reunion band, you do lose a lot of your relevance to anyone who is not a fan.[/QUOTE]
I actually agreed with you, but on this part that would be good. It would take away all the posers who are there because of the trend and leave all the true fans. Still good post.

miketommorellofan 10-11-2005 03:51 AM

rage against the machine are my fave band and i listen to every album but sometimes my opinions fluctuate in what i think of as the best.

ST - classics all the way, its got a great rawness to it but sometimes i feel that the production could have been better but as far as one of the greatest debut albums go its no 1 in my opinion

evil empire - brilliant album its in my opinion zach seems to be at his most angry which is great i think tom was amazingly creative using the allen key liste to the solo to snakecharmer

renegades - truly amazing i know a lot of people havent heard it coz its a cover album its more than that its not just a cover album its rage making the songs they love rage it unbelievable. the production on renegades is amzing it is an amzing album. highlights for how i could just kill a man, renegades of funk, in my eyes, the lot its brilliant.

the battle of los angeles - what an album how can people say they dont like this album. the only thing in my opinion is that the first seven tracks are some of the greatest i have heard but the rest arent on the same level which is disappointing still good though.

i think it has to be ST at the moment

laba 10-11-2005 01:59 PM

Self Titled just has so many great classics. But you can't just have one album, all of them are great for different reasons. Which DVD is their best? I have seen three different ones..

Mambuto_O'Mally 10-11-2005 02:14 PM

Out of Mexico City and Grand Olympic, Mexico city is the best. I haven't seen the s/t one yet.

Darkness 10-11-2005 06:13 PM

Bad news, boys and girls.

At Zacks show last Friday, (see the thread on zdlr.net for details) a guy at the Tom Morello porject website said he met up with Zack and talked to him for a bit. Zack stated that he's just going to live a normal life playing small shows here and there around L.A, and that there will be NO SOLO ALBUM. Tell your friends.

Mambuto_O'Mally 10-11-2005 09:40 PM

Is he giving up on politics then? I'm confused now. Anyway, In My Eyes is an awesome track. I'm listening to Renegades right now.:thumb:

Darkness 10-11-2005 09:55 PM

No, just the album.

But I also just received word that this could be false information, that may have come from his fake myspace. So we'll see... only time will tell...

Dead 10-11-2005 10:02 PM

Every time I listen to Rage I want to start jumping with the song. Not much music makes me want to do that!

blue3 10-11-2005 10:08 PM

Yeah. I wake up to Rage songs.


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