I dont know man I mean like I said before he had a way with words that made everything seem simple. I mean he could spark an emotion of peace in anybody. I think he would gather more followers then any other person could at this time.

The advantage john lennon has with the protests is Every one knows him, and he just has this "auora" around him, Bands like Coldplay and REM who do a bit of protesting just, dont have the same effect to me

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]The advantage john lennon has with the protests is Every one knows him, and he just has this "auora" around him, Bands like Coldplay and REM who do a bit of protesting just, dont have the same effect to me[/QUOTE]

Yea I mean Johns lyrics say so much to me. I mean its like sombody is telling me everything about myself that I haven't been able to put into words of my own.

Yeah he'd definitely have more impact than any of the minor figures that protest these days. It would be the same thing if Martin Luther King Jr. were alive. I bet him and Lennon might get along.

Yup those guys are probally the biggest figures of peace in my life (well Ghandi too, but he was also shot), and for some reason people felt the need to take it away.

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]The advantage john lennon has with the protests is Every one knows him, and he just has this "auora" around him, Bands like Coldplay and REM who do a bit of protesting just, dont have the same effect to me[/QUOTE]

He earned that aura by playing **** good music for a long time.

Hey im not in this band/ trying to plug his band but i listened to them one day and thought they had a real beatles vibe going on. It even says on their homepage "If you like the beatles.......you'll love us" I think theyre a really good band. If you do go there and listen to some of their stuff, notice how the song "Went to bed" klinda sounds like "Her Majesty" off of abbey road. [url]www.purevolume.com/thewestminsterabbey[/url]

^ bad link,
By that i mean, it didnt work.

[QUOTE=ultraspamboy]Hey, I never said he would stop, I'm just saying fewer people would be into it. I definitely agree that, if allowed to defend himself, he would be hard to attack without prior character assassination by whoever was trying to knock him down. I think of "Imagine" as a work of genius mainly because unlike most political songs of any era it addresses and accepts the idea that people oppose the viewpoint it expresses.[/QUOTE]


I think I get what you're saying... like people would accept his position and be be like "Oh, yeah, well he [I]is[/I] John Lennon, what do you expect?"

But, he might have come out with different ways to express his antiwar views that out-do his previous ones.

I think he still would be making albums... why not? I am sure someone that musical just doesn't stop making/recording music because they don't feel like it anymore

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Was Manson a Beatles fan? I mean I'm pretty sure he was, but the whole Helter Skelter thing seems more like a slap in a face to John then anything. I mean did he think he would be impressed?[/QUOTE]

Manson worshipped the Beatles. He developed incredibly complex theories based on The White Album, about the interrelation of tracks, and all sorts of stuff. He also had a theory (which I think definitely could have truth to it) that Revolution Nine is based on Revalations, Chapter 9, in which the final battle between good and evil takes place, and the world basically ends. But, yeah, Manson loved the Beatles. What you have to remember is that he's insane. He didn't do what he did because he thought it would impress or piss off the Beatles, he did it because he thought it was the right thing to do. He didn't act thinking "I'm doing something terrible," he acted thinking he was doing something right. That's what makes him so scary.

As for this whole Lennon thing, you guys are really exaggerating how much influence he would have. As ultraspamboy said, a large part of his mystique is that he's dead. Name me a single rock star who's as big now as they were in the 60's. Bob Dylan isn't the voice of a generation anymore, and Lennon wouldn't be either. He would speak out against the war, sure, and some people would listen. But he wouldn't move people any more than they're already being moved. There's all these concerts going around that have anti-war themes, would one more guy really make that much difference? Sure, Lennon was a genius, but he undoubtedly would've lost some of that importance and magic if he hadn't died.

I'm sad to admit it, but yeah, Lennon could possible be greater now because he's dead.

But I think that there would be a lot more anti-war movement had Lennon been on the front. The baby-boomers, who make up the majority of the population, would have a familiar face to ride behind.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]I'm sad to admit it, but yeah, Lennon could possible be greater now because he's dead.

But I think that there would be a lot more anti-war movement had Lennon been on the front. The baby-boomers, who make up the majority of the population, would have a familiar face to ride behind.[/QUOTE]

It's like saying: "Do you think Jesus is greater now that he's dead?"

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]It's like saying: "Do you think Jesus is greater now that he's dead?"[/QUOTE]

everyone knows lennon is bigger than jesus.

[QUOTE=ultraspamboy]everyone knows lennon is bigger than jesus.[/QUOTE]

Hehe. Truth.

More people don't like Jesus than don't like Lennon too.

How long would it take for this thread to be an ***OFFICIAL*** deal?

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]How long would it take for this thread to be an ***OFFICIAL*** deal?[/QUOTE]
I think this one is popular so they won't make one.

No, he means when they'll change this one into the ***OFFICIAL*** thread.

[QUOTE=Woodstock]No, he means when they'll change this one into the ***OFFICIAL*** thread.[/QUOTE]

Oh got ya. Yea that would be nice, I think there would be more posts.

i had this discussion with Deus over AIM, Mods tend to only make ***OFFICIAL*** threads of a band when people are constantly making threads on the same band, but there is only one Beatles thread so they dont have to make it OFFICIAL,

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]i had this discussion with Deus over AIM, Mods tend to only make ***OFFICIAL*** threads of a band when people are constantly making threads on the same band, but there is only one Beatles thread so they dont have to make it OFFICIAL,[/QUOTE]
It's a large enough thread to overcome that rule.

thats true

I know the Beatles used to cover a few Chuck Berry songs. Does anybody know if there is a version of them doing Johnny B Good?

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]I know the Beatles used to cover a few Chuck Berry songs. Does anybody know if there is a version of them doing Johnny B Good?[/QUOTE]

I think they did a version on [i]Live at the BBC[/i].

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]I think they did a version on [i]Live at the BBC[/i].[/QUOTE]

Thanks :thumb:

Yea there is a lot of good rare Beatles stuff out there. I have the mother of it them though, the Beatles playing Day Tripper with Hendrix on guitar :p . Now THAT is bigger then Jesus.

I'm pretty sure it is on Live at the BBC, but not positive. As for making this thread official, there's not really much point. We might get a couple more people coming in because it's official, but I doubt we'd get any serious long term posters who hadn't found the thread to begin with. Plus, no one ever makes Beatles threads clogging up the front page. Sure, it'd be nice to have it official, but it's not a big deal either way.

As for the Lennon thing, I honestly think him dying sealed his eternal fame, depressing as that thought may be. I mean, look at Hendrix. His music was going down hill (in my opinion) before he died. If he'd stayed alive, would he still be the god he is today? Plus, Rolling Stone magazine hated him. Would they give him the hype if he hadn't died? I don't think so. Look at Ray Charles' last album. It was pretty bad, to be totally honest. It only won the grammy for one reason: he died this year. And the album will be famous for that reason only. Sad, but true.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]As for the Lennon thing, I honestly think him dying sealed his eternal fame, depressing as that thought may be. I mean, look at Hendrix. His music was going down hill (in my opinion) before he died. If he'd stayed alive, would he still be the god he is today? Plus, Rolling Stone magazine hated him. Would they give him the hype if he hadn't died? I don't think so. Look at Ray Charles' last album. It was pretty bad, to be totally honest. It only won the grammy for one reason: he died this year. And the album will be famous for that reason only. Sad, but true.[/QUOTE]
I don't think Hendrix's music was going downhill. Listen to First Rays of The New Rising Sun. Great material, written right before he died.

Maybe I'm crazy, but Band of Gypsies was pretty disappointing to me. Machine Gun is good, the rest I couldn't really get into too much.

[QUOTE=Woodstock]I don't think Hendrix's music was going downhill. Listen to First Rays of The New Rising Sun. Great material, written right before he died.[/QUOTE]

I agree I think Hendrix's stuff was amazing before, but his stuff before he died cannot be described.

Sorry if you guys have talked about this, but I came across a pretty interesting site yesterday about the "proof" that paul is dead. Do you guys think its true that he is dead? or is it just a conspiracy or myth or whatever?
I kind of think it's true because they had alot of little "clues" on the site.

Band of Gypsies was a throwaway album intended to fulfill an old contractual obligation.