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Steerpike 07-03-2005 11:56 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I think the easiest stuff to write is what you listen to most of the time. It's just what comes naturally, I guess. :shrug:

Well guys, I'm off for the night. :wave:[/QUOTE]

See you tomorrow.

Unfortunately, I won't be in late at night tomorrow myself. I have work again.

Illmatic 07-03-2005 11:59 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]Blues is a lot of fun. I just wish I was better at it. I always have a tendency to really try and let it rip like the best blues guys do, but I'm not as in touch with the grit that they put into it. I'm a much more refined player, and my brand of badassedness comes from good execution of complex lines rather than low-down guitar slinging. And I tell you, there are many days where I wish it was the other way around.[/QUOTE]

Hot d[size=2]amn, Cain envies my guitar playing![/size] :)

Of course, I have bluesman in my blood, so I guess it comes naturally to me.

EDIT: Peace, Jake

Dr. Jake Destructo 07-03-2005 11:59 PM

I think that tomorrow is going to be my first ***OFFICIAL*** day off this summer. :-/ It's been a long time coming, though. Farmwork is so monotonous. It feels like I've already been working for a year, but it's really only been about 3 weeks.

Cain 07-04-2005 12:00 AM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]You definately do have talent. Hope you'll remember all of us when you get your recording contract. ;)

I'm trying to learn theory, but god d[size=2]a[/size]mn it takes forever to sink in with me. I'm not wired to think in terms of logic and rules. The way my mind works can basically be boiled down to, "Okay here's this thing... I wonder if I can do [i]this[/i] with it..."[/QUOTE]

Really? Because that's how theory clicked with me. I'd learn a scale, or a rule about how to make a chord from a scale, or a way to do something, and it would lead me to explore. "What does this note sound like over this note?" "What does this chord become when superimposed on this unrelated bass note?"

Theory to me isn't rules, it's opportunities for neat-sounding things in my compositions. The second chord in my calm verse is a perfect example. I knew that the Em-C change was good and dark, but then I though about Em9 and what a fantastic chord that was. Then I was like, what if I played that chord except with a C note? And I got that awesome Cmaj9#11 thing in the verse. I think looking at every rule like an exporation thing is the only way I've managed to stay in touch with my composing brain as opposed to my soloing brain growing like a tumor.

Riva 07-04-2005 12:01 AM

Haha... Spotted at Hyde Park for Live8: "Pink Floyd Reunited? Pigs have flown!".

:D :D I saw them play together live!!!!!!! :eek: *Smileys pale when compared to my face*

Drugstep 07-04-2005 12:02 AM

I'm really slow at writing songs. I'm just finishing up a song I started over a year ago. I'm writing alone though, and that slows things down. I wish I had a band. :upset:

Cain 07-04-2005 12:03 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Hot d[size=2]amn, Cain envies my guitar playing![/size] :)

Of course, I have bluesman in my blood, so I guess it comes naturally to me.

EDIT: Peace, Jake[/QUOTE]

I just really wish I could jam. I don't think I can. I can solo until my *** falls asleep, but I don't really think I'd be a good jammer, mostly because I'm too **** melodic. I can't utilize all those kick-*** dirty notes in blues and jazzy rock like the Allman Brothers in musical ways. It just sounds like a big fart when I go on a chromatic run or riff. It's depressing. I'm a composer and a soloist, but I suck at improvising cool stuff off the cuff in a musical situation.

Steerpike 07-04-2005 12:03 AM

[QUOTE=Cain]Really? Because that's how theory clicked with me. I'd learn a scale, or a rule about how to make a chord from a scale, or a way to do something, and it would lead me to explore. "What does this note sound like over this note?" "What does this chord become when superimposed on this unrelated bass note?"

Theory to me isn't rules, it's opportunities for neat-sounding things in my compositions. The second chord in my calm verse is a perfect example. I knew that the Em-C change was good and dark, but then I though about Em9 and what a fantastic chord that was. Then I was like, what if I played that chord except with a C note? And I got that awesome Cmaj9#11 thing in the verse. I think looking at every rule like an exporation thing is the only way I've managed to stay in touch with my composing brain as opposed to my soloing brain growing like a tumor.[/QUOTE]

The basic problem is that no one has ever presented theory to me in a practical manner. It's always in a stale textbook fashion that instantly puts me to sleep. I don't learn anything because they don't tell me what it does or how to use it.

For Christ's sake, I still don't even know how to use modes properly, because no one ever explained them to me in a practical manner. They always just said, "This mode is called this and sounds like this."

Illmatic 07-04-2005 12:03 AM

Riv: You did? They played in Australia? I thought you couldn't afford a trip to London?

/confused

Steerpike: I feel the same way about Music Theory. Right now all the composing I do is sheer impulse.

[QUOTE=Lucas]I just really wish I could jam. I don't think I can. I can solo until my *** falls asleep, but I don't really think I'd be a good jammer, mostly because I'm too **** melodic. I can't utilize all those kick-*** dirty notes in blues and jazzy rock like the Allman Brothers in musical ways. It just sounds like a big fart when I go on a chromatic run or riff. It's depressing. I'm a composer and a soloist, but I suck at improvising cool stuff off the cuff in a musical situation.[/QUOTE]

Yes, something I can do with a guitar that Lucas cannot!

/feels proud

Steerpike 07-04-2005 12:07 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Steerpike: I feel the same way about Music Theory. Right now all the composing I do is sheer impulse.[/QUOTE]

I know what you mean. It's really frustrating because my own compositions are turning out less and less satisfactory and I don't even know where to start or how to approach it.

I'm trying to write a little classic metal ditty called Black Magic Fever, but I can't seem to translate the music I hear in my head.

ATM 07-04-2005 12:08 AM

I'm more of a blues-rock guy. My playing style is pretty gritty, like Iommi.

Drugstep 07-04-2005 12:12 AM

I'm working on a thrash metal piece right now. I don't play guitar too much though.


Chris, seriously, what is Doug Munro?

Cain 07-04-2005 12:15 AM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]The basic problem is that no one has ever presented theory to me in a practical manner. It's always in a stale textbook fashion that instantly puts me to sleep. I don't learn anything because they don't tell me what it does or how to use it.

For Christ's sake, I still don't even know how to use modes properly, because no one ever explained them to me in a practical manner. They always just said, "This mode is called this and sounds like this."[/QUOTE]

The Guitar Grimoire series of books is the answer to all your theory woes. As for practical application, guitar magazines that tend to focus on soloing and musically complex compositions (I'm thinking of UK's Guitar Techniques here) can help you figure out what the situations are.

Speaking of which I was wishing I had a camera for your little contest, Steerpike. I was playing Gary Moore's "The Loner," and for the big extended solo at the end the wah was on, my eyes were shut tight, and my mouth was wide open and pointing towards the ceiling. Leah would have had a fit I think.

Riva 07-04-2005 12:18 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Riv: You did? They played in Australia? I thought you couldn't afford a trip to London?

/confused
[/QUOTE]

Nah, I saw them for the 4 minutes my TV station played them... so I downloaded a more or less "official" bootleg of the AOLmusic stream, and watched the entire set. It's official, Channel 9, or "WIN TV" as it is sometimes known, is retarded.

Illmatic 07-04-2005 12:19 AM

Ohhhhh...I saw the whole set, and on VH1 no less :eek:

Steerpike 07-04-2005 12:21 AM

[QUOTE=Cain]The Guitar Grimoire series of books is the answer to all your theory woes. As for practical application, guitar magazines that tend to focus on soloing and musically complex compositions (I'm thinking of UK's Guitar Techniques here) can help you figure out what the situations are.[/quote]

I'll stick those on my Amazon.com wishlist. Magazines aren't really practical now because in order to buy them or subscribe to them, I would regularly have to spend money.

[quote]Speaking of which I was wishing I had a camera for your little contest, Steerpike. I was playing Gary Moore's "The Loner," and for the big extended solo at the end the wah was on, my eyes were shut tight, and my mouth was wide open and pointing towards the ceiling. Leah would have had a fit I think.[/QUOTE]

Surely you can find someone with equipment. I mean, you live in New York state, right? You can't swing a dead cat there without hitting someone who can get you video equipment.

Personally, I'm beginning to think my own entry will just be a vocal number provided I get the equipment in time. My guitar playing is just... ugh... so bad. I actually have a nice little theatrical thing going when I sing Astronomy by Blue Oyster Cult or The Price You Pay by Savatage.

Cain 07-04-2005 12:22 AM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]I'll stick those on my Amazon.com wishlist. Magazines aren't really practical now because in order to buy them or subscribe to them, I would regularly have to spend money.



Surely you can find someone with equipment. I mean, you live in New York state, right? You can't swing a dead cat there without hitting someone who can get you video equipment.

Personally, I'm beginning to think my own entry will just be a vocal number provided I get the equipment in time. My guitar playing is just... ugh... so bad. I actually have a nice little theatrical thing going when I sing Astronomy by Blue Oyster Cult or The Price You Pay by Savatage.[/QUOTE]

No, no, I'm only there when I'm at school. When I'm home it's in North Canton, Connecticut. :p

ATM 07-04-2005 12:26 AM

Sigur Ros

or

Nine Inch Nails?

Which show should I go to

Cain 07-04-2005 12:26 AM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]Sigur Ros

or

Nine Inch Nails?

Which show should I go to[/QUOTE]

Sigur Ros, since they are true geniuses.

Shred Danson 07-04-2005 12:28 AM

[QUOTE]I'm more of a blues-rock guy. My playing style is pretty gritty, like Iommi.[/QUOTE]

I myself am more of a technical guy, I just got bored with pentatonics after a while and applied myself to some theory. A couple years ago I would have never thought I'd be able to sweep pick, but I'm doing pretty good with technique, I would say.

Steerpike 07-04-2005 12:29 AM

[QUOTE=Cain]No, no, I'm only there when I'm at school. When I'm home it's in North Canton, Connecticut. :p[/QUOTE]

Oh. Nevermind then. Still, it can't be too hard to find somebody to loan you a camera for a day.

Illmatic 07-04-2005 12:30 AM

[QUOTE=Cain]Leah would have had a fit I think.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

Forgot about those little e-threesomes you guys practically get into.

I can be a bit of a showman with a guitar. Nothing too crazy, but I can hold people's interest.

Chris: Sigur Ros

Peace, Lucas

Cain 07-04-2005 12:35 AM

Well, I'm off to bed. Night all, and thanks for critiquing my song. :)

Steerpike 07-04-2005 12:36 AM

Good night.

Shred Danson 07-04-2005 01:16 AM

Good night, bro.

And so begins late night with ICB.

Where the hell is Ryan, I wanna crack a couple "your mom" jokes then go to bed :p .

So my bandmates and I stocked up on fireworks and explosives and bottlerockets and other goodies today (or yesterday, whatever). It's going to be a beautiful sight, blowing sh[size=2]i[/size]t up, etc...

NP: Opeth- To Rid the Disease

Six Foot Revolver 07-04-2005 01:24 AM

[QUOTE=ICB]Good night, bro.

And so begins late night with ICB.

Where the hell is Ryan, I wanna crack a couple "your mom" jokes then go to bed :p .

So my bandmates and I stocked up on fireworks and explosives and bottlerockets and other goodies today (or yesterday, whatever). It's going to be a beautiful sight, blowing sh[size=2]i[/size]t up, etc...

NP: Opeth- To Rid the Disease[/QUOTE]
Ahhh you crazy American's and your blowing up s[B][I][/B][/I]hit :)

NP:All Sexy Buty Ginger-Blank Page

vocman 07-04-2005 01:24 AM

good morning everyone.
I just got rEVOLVEr by the haunted. seems like a reasonable album...what do you think?

Shred Danson 07-04-2005 01:30 AM

MXican: Today small explosives and whirly gags. Tomorrow, ENGLAND. MUHAHAHAHAHA!

The new Haunted album is great, as are all of their other releases.

NP: Surdin- As I live and Breathe

Steerpike 07-04-2005 01:38 AM

[QUOTE=ICB]And so begins late night with ICB.[/QUOTE]

That kind of reminded me of one of my favorite MST3K quotes. :p

Drugstep 07-04-2005 01:40 AM

Mmm. 2:40 AM. I'm considering listening to Shadows Fall and writing some stuff at the same time, but I might stay for late night with ICB. I wish a motherfu[B][I][/B][/I]cker would upload me the songs.


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