[QUOTE=Nataroo]K, well yeh, my family is splitting to the other side of the world abd Ive got like 200 bucks to find some roach infested pit in North London by september otherwise im screwed hard.[/QUOTE]
Come to Davis and be a bum. The bums here are pretty cool. And I'd know my dollar wasn't going to ciggeretes and booze.

I was actually planning that till I found out about your college fees. But yeh, when im done with uni if im still feeling the same I'll probably go with my plan of proposing to every hot girl in seattle or SoCal on myspace for a green card.

Unless someone makes gay marriages official. Then one of you could do me an awesome favour.

Gay marriage is legal in Canada, ask Tyler or Conner.

[QUOTE=shane italian]She fell in love with a guy at her work I guess. She went to Vegas with my dad and lied so much to him, then told him she was leaving this morning while I was out of the house. He told her to get out and she hasn't been back. Hasn't called me or anything. My sister still doesn't know.[/QUOTE]

That's terrible. I'm really sorry.

Oh look, it's the guy that ruined Harry Potter for me.

Hahahah. DUMBLEDORE LIVES!

Harry gets aids.

Dumbledore F'ucks Magic Johnson

Get's magic aids. Allows him to continue living regaurdless of the fact he has aids.

Hermoine gets knocked up?

[QUOTE=REINER]Get's magic aids. Allows him to continue living regaurdless of the fact he has aids.[/QUOTE]

But ,like superman, finally dies of a bedsore.

[QUOTE=REINER]Gay marriage is legal in Canada, ask Tyler or Conner.[/QUOTE]
sorry im late just got back from watching two guys get married.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Killing the Dream also have a song called "39th and Glisan". Weird.[/QUOTE]
It's weird so do The Answer. When I was in Seattle this weekend I drove by Meridian,39 and gilson and Harrison and Broadway. I rule

Sorry about that Shane :(, well if **** keeps going bad you can always move to Sacramento!

[QUOTE=SactoUnited]Sorry about that Shane :(, well if **** keeps going bad you can always move to Sacramento![/QUOTE]
are you coming to my show on the 9th

[QUOTE=oopyman]God fu[b][i][/b][/i]cking d[COLOR=White]a[/COLOR]mn it, I was pretending to be dead, but you had to go and ruin it Mike. I can't sit by and let you say that stupid s[b][i][/b][/i]hit. Don't let Hoods form your opinion on [COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]hit, they're not exactly people to idolize. With Honor are probably the most talented band in hardcore right now. They write great songs with great lyrics, and you have absolutely no reason not to like them. You let the media tell you what emo is. You know just as little about real emo as Mike Hood. All you're doing is fueling elitism. I'm guessing the only reason Hoods hate With Honor is that they're on Victory.

Don't get me wrong, I love Hoods, but in pretty much every aspect With Honor are better. Better lyrics, better drum, guitar, and bass parts, and better overall structure.[/QUOTE]
I just don't like With Honor period. People are entitled to their own opinion, but Nataroo started me going with his little post. Real emo would be a group like Dag Nasty, but unfortunately emo nowadays is bands like MCR or TBS.

[QUOTE=DOLEMITE]are you coming to my show on the 9th[/QUOTE]
What show are you talking about?

[QUOTE=SactoUnited]I just don't like With Honor period. People are entitled to their own opinion, but Nataroo started me going with his little post. Real emo would be a group like Dag Nasty, but unfortunately emo nowadays is bands like MCR or TBS.[/QUOTE]
No, MCR and TBS are NOT emo. They are power pop. Emo bands nowadays are Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, and Circle Takes the Square. Dag Nasty are hardly emo.

[QUOTE=oopyman]No, MCR and TBS are NOT emo. They are power pop. Emo bands nowadays are Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, and Circle Takes the Square. Dag Nasty are hardly emo.[/QUOTE]
I was talking about stereotypical emo.

[QUOTE=SactoUnited]I just don't like With Honor period. People are entitled to their own opinion, but Nataroo started me going with his little post. Real emo would be a group like Dag Nasty, but unfortunately emo nowadays is bands like MCR or TBS.[/QUOTE]
Dag Nasty emo? Huh?

[QUOTE=SactoUnited]I was talking about stereotypical emo.[/QUOTE]
Stereotypical emo is not emo. It's power pop. It's not that complicated.

I'd rather not get into genre technicallity, although yes I know most "emo" and "Pop-punk" is power pop, If I like the band then I like it, if I don't then I don't.

[QUOTE=SactoUnited]I'd rather not get into genre technicallity, although yes I know most "emo" and "Pop-punk" is power pop, If I like the band then I like it, if I don't then I don't.[/QUOTE]
That's not what we're talking about.

[QUOTE=oopyman]That's not what we're talking about.[/QUOTE]
It all roots back to With Honor, for the most part, not always, but for the most part, I don't like that "emo" type of riff, I don't know the exact word for it, and when I called With Honor too "emo" like, everybody commenced to attacking. So the bottom line is that I don't care for them that much

[QUOTE=SactoUnited]What show are you talking about?[/QUOTE]
we are playing huge one in elk grove

[QUOTE=SactoUnited]It all roots back to With Honor, for the most part, not always, but for the most part, I don't like that "emo" type of riff, I don't know the exact word for it, and when I called With Honor too "emo" like, everybody commenced to attacking. So the bottom line is that I don't care for them that much[/QUOTE]
Give us an example of With Honor playing a riff that you're describing so we know what you're talking about.

[QUOTE=SactoUnited]It all roots back to With Honor, for the most part, not always, but for the most part, I don't like that "emo" type of riff, I don't know the exact word for it, and when I called With Honor too "emo" like, everybody commenced to attacking. So the bottom line is that I don't care for them that much[/QUOTE]
Calling With Honor's riffing style "emo" is completely ignorant.

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Listen for emo riffing.

[QUOTE=oopyman]Calling With Honor's riffing style "emo" is completely ignorant.

[url]http://www.purevolume.com/hotcross[/url]
[url]http://www.purevolume.com/adayinblackandwhite[/url]

Listen for emo riffing.[/QUOTE]
I just said that I don't know the wording for it.

With Honor have challenging hardcore riffs.

Listen to Bridges and Gaps.

[QUOTE=SactoUnited]Listen to Bridges and Gaps.[/QUOTE]
What part of it? There are a lot of different kinds of riffs in that song.

The riff that starts at 5 seconds into the song.

[QUOTE=Johnny Roddick]Dag Nasty emo? Huh?[/QUOTE]

yeah. Dag Nasty are an emo band. MCR and TBS are not.

So octaves make a song emo? With Honor have the same type or riffing as Champion, just a lot more complex.

[QUOTE=DOLEMITE]we are playing huge one in elk grove[/QUOTE]
Who else is playing?

I may be at my Dad's at that time.



Good news though, I might be back early on the 12th ofr Colin of Arabia.

That's it, some octaves don't bother me, but I just can't get into WH's, although I will admit the stuff they do is way more difficult than a bunch of power chords.

I can understand not liking octaves, but I don't understand how you can like Champion but not With Honor.

[QUOTE=oopyman]I can understand not liking octaves, but I don't understand how you can like Champion but not With Honor.[/QUOTE]
Vocals are a little bit of the factor too.

Isn't most of With Honor's stuff powerchords and octaves?

MLIW is more talented than With Honor, just sayin'.