1. I believe you have the right to make that choice. However, I personally think it's completely asinine.

2. If the drug in question is not for medical use, then it's abuse. You have no reason to be using it, you're gaining nothing from it, and you're killing off a few of your brain cells in the process.

3. Well, apart from the chance that you'll be arrested with pockets full of hash, not really. All drugs, legal or not, affect your physical and mental state, and just because something is legal doesn't mean you should do it.

4. I wouldn't. As I said, you have all the right in the world to f[B]u[/B]ck yourself up.

Of course, this isn't the problem. The problem lies with the dolts who are f[B]u[/B]cked up in public and impede on other people's rights because of it. When you're high, you don't think rationally, and you can make absolutely ludicrous decisions that deeply affect other people, and you don't have that right.

The general consensus among my peers that driving while high is not as bad while driving drunk is a stunning example of drug-induced stupidity.

[QUOTE=BummerJonny;16368067]5) Would Legalisation of a drug such as cannabis be a good thing, for the reason that strength and purity would be controlled?[/QUOTE]
i used to be 50/50 on this and then i asked myself why it needs to be used recreationally in the first place. do i think it would be a safer product if it was regulated? yes. but i already don't support recreational use of legal drugs.

i think legalization would just lead to increased use, which only positively affects the health side of the negative effects, and would negatively affect every other aspect of use.


anyways, off to work now. 2 people just called at the last minute to say they're not coming in. so our staff went down from 4 to 2. :( i hope it's not horrible tonight.

[QUOTE] The most important usage of drugs would be for third eye purposes. Not to get wasted or as escapism, but for discovery. This must be encouraged, as well as responsible taking within this[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]I think it’s important to distinguish between the different types of drug use that arise. I think you can break drug use into 4 distinct categories:

• Experimentation
• Recreational
• Addiction
• Spiritual/Conscious Exploration

Experimentation:

This would be an instance where a person is curious of the effects of a particular substance. I don’t believe that there is anything wrong with experimental use, but unfortunately this is where everyone starts, and I would imagine for the majority, this type of drug use will always lead to another distinction.

Experimentation (if it stays that way) can simply be seen as a life experience. A person may want to travel the world, jump out of a plane, or undertake a psychedelic experience.

If experimentation is all the user is interested in, I believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with this categorization (putting any criminal elements or law breaking aside).

Recreational:

This distinction would probably come after some enjoyable experimentation experiences.

Fortunately or unfortunately particular drugs stimulate the emotions, body & senses and clearly make people feel good. A recreational user would probably enjoy using drugs in particular social situations, clubs, parties, big nights out could all provide appropriate settings for the recreational user, but the distinction here is occasional use.

If something makes you feel good surely you would want to have a repeat experience?
This is where the line is drawn thinly between ‘Recreational’ and ‘Addiction’.

Addiction:

Again following on from ‘Experimental’ to ‘Recreational’ we come to ‘Addiction’.
This would be where the drug has a hold on the user rather than the other way round. Some people may feel that they need to take a drug just to cope with normal life.

To be a recreational drug user takes a strong mind and a strong will power.
To experience an enjoyable sensation, but know where to draw the line is takes I think, a reasonably strong minded person.

However if you do not have the will power, strong mindedness, or have had a rough up bringing, experienced a big loss or had a major life trauma....recreational use can turn into addiction.

This is the type of drug use that really is bad.

Im not sure if it’s ‘morally’ wrong as the title suggests.....when I was thinking of a title to this post 'morally wrong' was the first thing that sprang to mind, but this type of drug use is wrong on many levels.

Worst case scenario - you can die. You will loose all your friends, probably loose any career prospects and probably need a good deal of mental rehabilitation to pull yourself out of the turmoil.

I think we can probably all agree, putting aside any criminal elements or broken laws, that this type of drug use is by far the worst.

We can debate more on weather ‘Experimental’ or ‘Recreational’ use is wrong in any way, but by comparison I would say that both are just normal undertakings as part of the inquisitive nature of humans.

Spiritual/Conscious Exploration

This type of drug use is probably the least practiced and least understood method for using drugs, and as you may have gathered from other posts, is the type that intrigues and interests me the most.

Shamanism would certainly come under this umbrella, and there are also a number of churches that crop up here and there that manage to include many Entheogens into there practices and somehow managed to get the law waved at there use.

To define an Entheogen would be (there is nothing wrong with Wikipedia):

A psychoactive substance used in a religious or shamanic context. Entheogens generally come from plant sources which contain molecules closely related to endogenous neuro-chemicals. They occur in a wide variety of sacraments of various religious rites and have been shown to directly provoke what users perceive as spiritual/mystical experiences.

There is an abundance of literature on this type of drug use which is best saved for another topic, but believe me - it’s very fascinating.

This type of conscious exploration is certainly not wrong in any way, and in stark contrast, I believe this type of drug use is very right indeed. Im not even talking from personal experience here, just going on the many books I’ve read on the topic.

It’s just a shame most people seem to abuse these plant substances rather than use them as the tools that they may be…

To close, the 4 distinctions mentioned above are the only 4 ways I can think to classify drug use. I think it’s still a good solid topic for debate, but to bundle the different varieties of drug use into one term and make a judgment on that alone is wrong.[/QUOTE]

for anyone interested.

K, I don't feel like answering the questions, but here's my view on MJ.


I started smoking around the start of 10th grade. It didn't take long at all until I smoked everyday (never during school though). With a bag of weed sitting on my room, it was hard to resist. I saw no negatives, and could get away with it. And of course, I enjoyed it.

That lasted a about a year, and then I slowed down (mostly due to money). Soon, I was down to smoking once every 2-3 months, and then by the end of 11th grade I was sober. During all that time, I didn't really see any negatives, etc.

Then I spent about 6 months sober. And I realized how nice it was to be sober. I also just felt "clean." Can't really explain it, but it was nice.

Now, go back about two months from now, and I started smoking again. I bought some weed, and ended up smoking about every day all through April. Again, I had a bag of weed sitting in my room, it was hard to resist... for the first week, I had a love/hate relationship. I love the stuff, but I no longer had that "clean" feeling I had when sober. It was weird. After that first week though, I didn't care. It wasn't till I was all out of weed that I said, "oh, oops."


Point being, although marijuana isn't physically addictive, I personally do get a strong attachment to it, and I know many others do too. It's just a very enjoyable drug. Easy to quit, but since it's easy to obtain and there aren't many obvious side effects, most people don't quit. Hell, if I didn't need piss tests for my job, I'd probably be stoned right now. So as much as I love the stuff, I think it's best I stay away. For now, anyway.

And a side note, while I was smoking marijuana, I experiemented with several other drugs as well (pain killers, cough medicine, concerta, etc). And usually, that would happened 1 or 2 days after I'd run out of the green.

timsays hi

whats that green **** called you get on your cymbals after awhile caause theyre old?

tarnish/oxidation

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[QUOTE=Berk;16368618]whats that green **** called you get on your cymbals after awhile caause theyre old?[/QUOTE]

Patina.

Looks coo WAR. Looks like a cleaner tidier version of a cafe in my town that does gigs n stuff

[QUOTE=Win A Rabbit;16368908]pictures of my work, because i was bored today and took them.[/QUOTE]

that looks awesome. what do you do?

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I'm so attracted to her...oh my god.

She's a crazy b[B]i[/B]tch but she's f[B]u[/B]cking gorgeous. =/

****, I cracked my 20 in Dream Crash/Ride.
Thank god for the Guitar Center Memorial Day Sale tomorrow :D

Sucks man

[quote=ludvista29;16370280]****, I cracked my 20 in Dream Crash/Ride.
Thank god for the Guitar Center Memorial Day Sale tomorrow :D[/quote]

Any awesome deals in specific or is everything even more on sale?

[QUOTE=Win A Rabbit;16368908]
and my office.
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so is that where you cyber with me all the time?

[QUOTE=fishbulb;16370329]Any awesome deals in specific or is everything even more on sale?[/QUOTE]
Well they dont release any details of whats on sale. You have to go and check it out.

You any ideas wat ur gonna get?

I'm thinking of The 22/24 K Light Ride, Really any thin ride or crash. Preferably 19 and up.

Cool

Yeah, I'm just looking for a large sounding Crash

2002's

2002's are alright, but i prefer good cymbals.

oh you didnt just go there

[QUOTE=Undisco Kidd;16370516]2002's are alright, but i prefer good cymbals.[/QUOTE]

Why you say that?

I agree with him; 2002s sound cheap and gross.

I love em.

2002's aren't that bad.

My first choice tbh

[QUOTE=oliv_da_skinmasher;16370571]My first choice tbh[/QUOTE]

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