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repcak 05-18-2006 04:05 PM

i try to record kalmah swamhell at 80bpm for you, but it seems that i'm too nervous ... i make mistakes all the time... hm... lets see if i will record it today, or next week.
the only problem is that its very quiet, although i tried to put it louder through the program, but its still very quiet...

repcak 05-18-2006 04:42 PM

so i recorded it with Kristal Audio Engine but i just don't know how to convert it into *.wav or *.mp3 :confused:

edit: i've got it :D

upload in some minutes

repcak 05-18-2006 04:53 PM

[B][U]Kalmah - Swamphell together with Symphony X - Inferno (Unleash the Fire)[/U][/B]

[URL="http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/swamphell_inferno.mp3"]Swamphell & Inferno (Unleash the fire)[/URL]

at the beginning i made a mistake and the funny thing is, that (imo) the intro of inferno is better played than kalmah... though i practise kalmah more often and longer than inferno :p

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 05:02 PM

Are you having more left hand or right hand troubles??

If it's left (fretting), then you should slow it down and alternate pick every note just for the time being and concentrate on getting all the notes sounding good.

If it's right (picking), practise a few more sweep picking exercises to get a better flow.

repcak 05-18-2006 05:12 PM

both ... i have some problems with sweeping (right hand), because its the first song i learnt which have sweeps.
and left hand.... the intro (because of the big finger-stretch) and pinky on the low e-string... it seems as i hammer on the string, instead of playing it...


the other thing is... i was nervous; and when i made a mistake i had to begin once again... so this was maybe my 100x take. i travel home tomorrow and i hope i will have more time next weekend. then i will try to re-record it.

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 06:11 PM

First song with sweeping!?!

Damn man, if it was me, I'd stop playing that song, practise THE very basic shapes over and over with a metronome like you're doing so as I said, it will improve the smoothness and flow of your picking. Then go back to it a few months later and you'll probably find it's automatically much easier. Maybe a bit of scale stuff too if you find that stretch difficult. You know, 1234 chromatic crap, and (124)(134)(123)(135) etc on every string.

I just found out that I can play some Paul Gilbert lick about 20 bpm faster than I could since the last time I tried, and it doesn't even seem hard at this speed, so this method definately works for me at least.

*I think* when people spend ages on just one lick or song (i.e Scarified, Speed Kills etc), and are determined to get it up to speed in a week, it makes it sloppier because they feel they have a time limit so they rush. Speed shouldn't be your goal (well, in the end it will be) but accuracy should always come first. Don't worry about recording it if YOU are not ready, don't put unnecessary pressure on yourself man.

repcak 05-18-2006 07:21 PM

it was the first song with sweeping, true. this song was the reason why i started to learn sweeping, but how you said, i haven't practise them a lot.
i have now troy stetinas "Speed Mechanics for Lead Guitar" and his exercises are great! i will now start to learn the sweeping exercises from his book.

speed/accuracy: since the last discussions with you and Kurrpt i realized that you are right and i stopped to look at speed anymore, though its more frustrating :p about

kalmah: today i played it for the first time at 80bpm perfectly, but when i started to record it, i got nervous. now after the recording, i realized that i was sloppy and now i think i will slow down once again and analyse the moves more exactly.

time limits: my time limit was to record kalmah at 110bpm in summer... at first i thought i will reach the goal, but how you remember, i once have to relearn the whole song, because i made always the same mistake. therefore it took me longer. after this record i know i won't be able to record it until june (one of the reason is, that i won't have enough time for playing guitar, cause of university) - but i think its realistic to reach my goal sometime in summer... july/august/ at least in september ;)

ps.: the record was made with a headset-mic and with a bad amp-setting (distortion, etc.) + bad guitar-pick ups.

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 08:17 PM

I've heard good things about that book, but imo, half of the accuracy/skill increase isn't jsut the exercise, it's the WAY you practise that exercise. I mean it is pretty point less to have 235 sweep picking exercises because they ALL involve the sweeping motion, the only difference is where you put your fretting fingers, and if you need to concentrate on that, then the focus on the flow of the right hand will diminish. If you need all the basic shaps to practise, let me know. Since Swamphell is has a 4 string, you should practise 3 and 4. 5 *might* be a bit too much, 6 will be.

Kurupt and I both have the same thoughts about speed/accuracy. Except he's probably more strict, I sometimes just go "ahh bugger it, I can't play it that well at this speed but I'm going to increase anyway". Not good!

I'd say if you started practising sweep motion, you'll have this down by September.

How long have you been playing?

Moses 05-18-2006 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Can you play like Janne?[/QUOTE]
Yeah. He's not that great. I learn stuff like Chopin and Chick Corea, so Janne's stuff isn't that hard.

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 09:25 PM

Sh!t, can you record something, that'd be amazing.

Moses 05-18-2006 09:29 PM

Right now I only really know the main theme of Kissing the Shadows but I can put up a solo that I recorded when I was bored at school.

[B]Me soloing over a 2/5/1:[/B]
[url]http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=7E79F3FC16EBA589[/url]

This is the only song I have recorded for my solo project so everything you hear is me (except programmed drums). It actually doesn't have that much key playing but it's got some.

[B]Bleeding Persistance:[/B]
[url]http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=852DFE3D1D06CBAF[/url]

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 09:31 PM

Yeah sure.

Moses 05-18-2006 09:38 PM

Okay. Up.

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 09:59 PM

Haha that run from 0:22-0:30 was pretty crazy!!

It's really good recording too so you can hear everything.

Really cool dude, it'd be awesome to hear you do like the Living Dead Beat solo on keys.

Moses 05-18-2006 11:17 PM

Thanks by the way.

Does anyone wanna [I]Kiss the Shadows[/I]?(punzor)

MRDuCran 05-18-2006 11:42 PM

I would if I could play the solos.

I'm Charming 05-19-2006 02:12 AM

[QUOTE=Moses]Right now I only really know the main theme of Kissing the Shadows but I can put up a solo that I recorded when I was bored at school.

[B]Me soloing over a 2/5/1:[/B]
[url]http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=7E79F3FC16EBA589[/url]

This is the only song I have recorded for my solo project so everything you hear is me (except programmed drums). It actually doesn't have that much key playing but it's got some.

[B]Bleeding Persistance:[/B]
[url]http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=852DFE3D1D06CBAF[/url][/QUOTE]


The first one was great.
/respect

The metal thing, I wasn't impressed by. I wasn't digging it.

How many years have you played piano for?

repcak 05-19-2006 02:29 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I've heard good things about that book, but imo, half of the accuracy/skill increase isn't jsut the exercise, it's the WAY you practise that exercise. I mean it is pretty point less to have 235 sweep picking exercises because they ALL involve the sweeping motion, the only difference is where you put your fretting fingers, and if you need to concentrate on that, then the focus on the flow of the right hand will diminish. If you need all the basic shaps to practise, let me know. Since Swamphell is has a 4 string, you should practise 3 and 4. 5 *might* be a bit too much, 6 will be.

Kurupt and I both have the same thoughts about speed/accuracy. Except he's probably more strict, I sometimes just go "ahh bugger it, I can't play it that well at this speed but I'm going to increase anyway". Not good!

I'd say if you started practising sweep motion, you'll have this down by September.

How long have you been playing?[/QUOTE]

yes, meanwhile (through the discussions with you and Kurrpt) i know that the WAY how to practise it, is more important ... thats what troy stetina says too.

if you will send me some sweeping exercise, that would be great :D [email]repcak@gmx.at[/email]

i started playing acoustic guitar exactly 3years ago (because of a girl :p ), but i have played maybe once a week for some hours. after one year, so two years ago, i got my ibanez and started to play every day for some time. i always had long breaks, f.e.: last year when i haven't touched the guitar for several months. i took it (once again) serious this december, january and try to practise every day... so i play maybe for 2-3years now, but when you consider all my breaks, not more than 1 1/2 :/

I'm Charming 05-19-2006 02:33 AM

hahha. I started playing guitar because of Metallica. Then realized rather quickly what crap they were.


@ Repcak- You should join my forum, What's your AIM or MSN? Ghosts are always welcome.. : )

repcak 05-19-2006 02:37 AM

i don't have AIM neither MSN but i have ICQ and Skype; i think i won't have time for another forum, cause i'm alread "active" in four! though MX is the most important one.

Knocking on Heavens door by Bob Dylan and Seek and Destroy were my first two songs :D

i remember how proud i was in autumn 2004 (1 1/2 year ago) because i was able to play "am i evil" by metallica (well, i thought i can play it ... though it was sloppy). until this year i didn't really know what "practise" is. i always just played.

Battle Against Time 05-19-2006 03:00 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]i don't have AIM neither MSN but i have ICQ and Skype; i think i won't have time for another forum, cause i'm alread "active" in four! though MX is the most important one.

Knocking on Heavens door by Bob Dylan and Seek and Destroy were my first two songs :D

i remember how proud i was in autumn 2004 (1 1/2 year ago) because i was able to play "am i evil" by metallica (well, i thought i can play it ... though it was sloppy). until this year i didn't really know what "practise" is. i always just played.[/QUOTE]



Yeah. I've gotta learn the rest of Bodom Beach Terror. Just a tad to go. I get that same recording nervious feeling you do.

I figured out a way so I hear what I'm playing while recording. That's very helpful.

btw. I don't have multiple personalies or something. This accounts password was saved/auto log on and I'm laying in bed. aka. No lazy to log on as I'm Charming on my laptop

Apocalyptic Raids 05-19-2006 03:08 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]i don't have AIM neither MSN but i have ICQ and Skype; i think i won't have time for another forum, cause i'm alread "active" in four! though MX is the most important one.

Knocking on Heavens door by Bob Dylan and Seek and Destroy were my first two songs :D

i remember how proud i was in autumn 2004 (1 1/2 year ago) because i was able to play "am i evil" by metallica (well, i thought i can play it ... though it was sloppy). until this year i didn't really know what "practise" is. i always just played.[/QUOTE]
Am I Evil is by Diamond Head.

MRDuCran 05-19-2006 03:11 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]yes, meanwhile (through the discussions with you and Kurrpt) i know that the WAY how to practise it, is more important ... thats what troy stetina says too.

if you will send me some sweeping exercise, that would be great :D [email]repcak@gmx.at[/email]

i started playing acoustic guitar exactly 3years ago (because of a girl :p ), but i have played maybe once a week for some hours. after one year, so two years ago, i got my ibanez and started to play every day for some time. i always had long breaks, f.e.: last year when i haven't touched the guitar for several months. i took it (once again) serious this december, january and try to practise every day... so i play maybe for 2-3years now, but when you consider all my breaks, not more than 1 1/2 :/[/QUOTE]

First 3 are major, last 3 are minor. They're all in C maj/min so you can compare:
1&4, 2&5, 3&6 - making major into minor

or

1,2,3 & 4,5,6 because 123 = all Cmaj and 456 all Cmin.

[url]http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=8E7F1AC035DC4158[/url]

Obviously first set is 3 string, then 4, then 5.

Battle Against Time 05-19-2006 03:43 AM

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids]Am I Evil is by Diamond Head.[/QUOTE]



I know and I assume he knows.

Metallica covered it and it's known as a Metallica song.

Squirrel 05-19-2006 03:57 AM

It's known as a Diamond Head song, unless youre a complete moron.

Apocalyptic Raids 05-19-2006 04:07 AM

:squirrel:

Squirrel 05-19-2006 04:12 AM

:apocalypticraids:

sop ?

Apocalyptic Raids 05-19-2006 04:13 AM

not much, you.

Squirrel 05-19-2006 04:26 AM

same

should be revising

but im not :(

Apocalyptic Raids 05-19-2006 04:35 AM

heh, I kinda need to learn a song, but I can't be bothered.

Listening to Vio-lence is more fun


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