I have no idea what you just said...

People think Metallica sucks because so many people like them, roughly.

[QUOTE=hethamulburton]People think Metallica sucks because so many people like them, roughly.[/QUOTE]

In my opinion the only overrated thing about Metallica is Kirk.

I mean, he's really talented, but I just get tired of his solos. A bunch of fast licks with no flow that make them connect to the song.

I think that on some solos but some are really good like Fade To Black.

He died at ...AJFA (Although he really did have some semi-decent solos on Self-titled) after that he kinda just got into the wah too much...

I wouldn't go as early as AJFA, I'd start at some songs on Black then go on.

yeah, the solo on Blackened is really cool

Now I'm not one of those "one" is god but that is a good solo.

I meant AJFA was the last album he wrote good solos on.
We already had a similar argument here a while ago, and the majority of people jumped on me because I don't really like ...AJFA (I didn't think it had any worthy solos), ultimately I was proven wrong though. :upset:

O, well it just seemed that way, sorry to jump on you like that.

Nah, it's fine, I see how my choice of words was wrong :)

But I agree on that wah thing, but even that wah filled mess was better than no solos at all... sobs.

I can't really agree with that :p
I mean, at first it was something new for him, but over time, I seriously felt every solo sounded the same, just abuse.

I liked the no solo approach on St. Anger, I mean, it would have been cool to have some solos, but not every song needs a solo just to be able to say it's got one. They should be done, but only when it's really needed, maybe changes the song, like how that first solo in Fade To Black shifts the rhythm a bit (Maybe other people don't see this, but I believe that first solo shifts the rhythm, at least helps, by taking the concentration away from James, Kirk allows him to change what he's playing, and it works so well).

I can see that, going from disto to acoustic.

[QUOTE=hethamulburton]Now I'm not one of those "one" is god but that is a good solo.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I just learned the last solo, gotta work on my speed on one of the fast licks though.

[QUOTE=Chu]He died at ...AJFA (Although he really did have some semi-decent solos on Self-titled) after that he kinda just got into the wah too much...[/QUOTE]

Thats the understatement of the century.

I'm learning The Four Horsemen right now.


Go Mustaine, not E minor pentatonic!!

Learned that last summer, really long.

[QUOTE=JonG]I'm learning The Four Horsemen right now.


Go Mustaine, not E minor pentatonic!![/QUOTE]

:lol:

Some of his lead work at the end of holy wars is really challenging, its good to learn though.

Yeah, I've thought about learning Holy Wars, just never got around to it. Some of my favorite riffs come from The Four Horsemen.

I learned a lot off Peace Sells.

[QUOTE=JonG]Yeah, I've thought about learning Holy Wars, just never got around to it. Some of my favorite riffs come from The Four Horsemen.[/QUOTE]


Holy Wars is great to improve alternate picking, as well as overall technique. I love Friedman's lead work, but then again, I love all of his lead work.

What song originally came on Kill 'Em All that they had on the cassettes that they don't have on the CDs?

[QUOTE=Chu]He died at ...AJFA (Although he really did have some semi-decent solos on Self-titled) after that he kinda just got into the wah too much...[/QUOTE]

notice how after ajfa, they got a new producer and changed styles of rock? i'm not saying that it sucked after bob came into the picture, but the music became less complex and more simplified. it was still rock, but it was a different kind. so, kirk couldn't really write the same type of solos that he wrote while they were playing thrashier, more complex music, because it wouldn't fit. my point is, say that from their next album on they went back to their roots to play thrash again made it complex, who's to say that he wouldn't start writing mind-blowing solos again? just take that into consideration.

After finishing learning a bunch of Metallica songs on bass, I have finally moved to learning Maiden. Metallica has given me plenty of hours of enjoyment though.

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]After finishing learning a bunch of Metallica songs on bass, I have finally moved to learning Maiden. Metallica has given me plenty of hours of enjoyment though.[/QUOTE]

You wanna song on bass and for guitarists out there.
Only Ash Remains- Necrophagis
song^

[QUOTE=MegaMustaine]Thats the understatement of the century.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean?

[QUOTE=Chu]What do you mean?[/QUOTE]

I was referring to the wah wah comment.

IMO and maybe a few others Kirk abuses the wah way too much. There's a fine line when to use it and when not to. For me he crossed it.

[QUOTE=burtonbassist_101]notice how after ajfa, they got a new producer and changed styles of rock? i'm not saying that it sucked after bob came into the picture, but the music became less complex and more simplified. it was still rock, but it was a different kind. so, kirk couldn't really write the same type of solos that he wrote while they were playing thrashier, more complex music, because it wouldn't fit. my point is, say that from their next album on they went back to their roots to play thrash again made it complex, who's to say that he wouldn't start writing mind-blowing solos again? just take that into consideration.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't go as far to say his solos pre-AJFA were mindblowing. One thing I don't enjoy with Kirk is his lack of flow in his solos. Theres a few that I really like such as Ride the Lightening and One kind of, but I don't find his solos mind blowing.

Just opinion though.

I think Kirk is really talanted,
and would some one please stab Bob Rock

And yea mustaine is very talanted, but who do yall think has
Better vocals? dm or jh>?

Go Vote For Cliff!

He isnt the greatest bassist ever but
it's not like this is rolling stone

[QUOTE=brittallica]Go Vote For Cliff!

He isnt the greatest bassist ever but
it's not like this is rolling stone[/QUOTE]
What if it isnt Rolling Stone? It is our poll, and the poll is for the greatest ever, not who you want to jack off.

[QUOTE=brittallica]Go Vote For Cliff!

He isnt the greatest bassist ever but
it's not like this is rolling stone[/QUOTE]


I voted for les claypool :)

No way, I voted Myung. Cliff was good but people seem to make musicians even better than they are after they die.

you're starting to sound like YDload

I just think it's true. I mean look at Dimebag, I think he was a great guitarist. But he wasn't the best, yet people are now whoring him like he was the best guitarist to set foot on the planet. When he was alive I never saw him get that much attention.

Yeah I see what you mean.

what is the deal with no leaf clover and -human? I mean, what happened to that kind of song writing, those 2 songs showed so much potential for the new album. Then they released st. anger, and neither of those songs were on their and the song writing was different. So, Did they make those 2 songs up just for S&M, or do you think that they were hinting at something (that might not have been done because of jasons leaving)?

Yeah I think they just made those songs for S&M. I think it would be interesting to see them write songs more songs like No Leaf Clover for another album. But maybe not for the current one coming up, I want another MOP or AJFA. *Wishful Thinking*

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]Yeah I see what you mean.

what is the deal with no leaf clover and -human? I mean, what happened to that kind of song writing, those 2 songs showed so much potential for the new album. Then they released st. anger, and neither of those songs were on their and the song writing was different. So, Did they make those 2 songs up just for S&M, or do you think that they were hinting at something (that might not have been done because of jasons leaving)?[/QUOTE]

James had said the no leaf clover has "been around" for a while but it never ended up on an album. I THINK he said that on the S&M documentary.

But I dont know. If they end up releasing another st anger, then I'll definately have less faith in them. I'm just glad they can still put on an awesome concert. :thumb:

They've got one album left, better make it good