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gmoneyguy 03-07-2006 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]Get a job, honkey.

Man today has sucked so bad...gah, just everything seems to be goin' wrong today. I think I'm gonna pull out my acoustic guitar, cut my wrists, put on some eyeliner and write a song about it...:p but really, I feel like screaming at the next person I see.

NP: Byproduct - The Collapse of The Tangent Universe[/QUOTE]
Normally I punch someone in the face to relieve stress and/or smoke a cigarette.

Stoic 03-07-2006 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=guitrguy]Normally [B]I punch someone in the face[/B] to relieve stress and/or smoke a cigarette.[/QUOTE]

I doubt you do that! Either you never feel stressed or you lie :p

gmoneyguy 03-07-2006 03:43 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic]I doubt you do that! Either you never feel stressed or you lie :p[/QUOTE]
Man I do it all the time, I would show you but you live in a land far far away.

Lord Abortion 03-07-2006 03:46 PM

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]Barcelona ftw.

If you don't agree, we may have a problem here. :angry:

EDIT: Pfft lousy first time. And Chelsea plays dirty. VERY DIRTY.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Barca won on aggragate.

Ronaldinho was amazing, but I nearly fell asleep second half, I am incredibly tired for some reason.

Shred Danson 03-07-2006 03:53 PM

[QUOTE=guitrguy]Normally I punch someone in the face to relieve stress and/or smoke a cigarette.[/QUOTE]

I've already got a good idea who I want to knock the fu[SIZE="2"]c[/SIZE]k out.

But relieving stress-wise...I usually smoke a cig and play my guitar as well. But this isn't just stress, I'm pissed off too.

Stoic 03-07-2006 03:57 PM

[QUOTE=gutrguy]Man I do it all the time, I would show you but you live in a land far far away.[/QUOTE]

gasp...okie :p


Bennie whats this with deleting your posts all the time. Dude, stop seeking for attention and finally decide whether you stay or not (if you leave you'll be eternally hated).

Shadows 03-07-2006 03:59 PM

I'm not seeking attention. :( I just like the idea of keeping my count at an even 10k. It's a weird quirk I guess. If I leave it won't be for a little while.

Stoic 03-07-2006 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I'm not seeking attention. :( I just like the idea of keeping my count at an even 10k. It's a weird quirk I guess. If I leave it won't be for a little while.[/QUOTE]

for god's sake kid, there's nothing wrong with spending time here. If it hadnt been for MX there would have been something else to waste time on!

Shred Danson 03-07-2006 04:02 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I'm not seeking attention. :( I just like the idea of keeping my count at an even 10k. It's a weird quirk I guess. If I leave it won't be for a little while.[/QUOTE]

Deleting posts is a sign of weakness :angry:

NP: Without a Trace - Conflict

Man, these guys suck.

Stormrider 03-07-2006 04:05 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]Deleting posts is a sign of weakness :angry:.[/QUOTE]

I must be a hell of a weak kid then :lol: No comment Stoic :p

Meh, I owe 18$ to my school library :(

EDIT: geez, 4 smileys...

Lord Abortion 03-07-2006 04:07 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]Deleting posts is a sign of weakness :angry:

NP: Without a Trace - Conflict

Man, these guys suck.[/QUOTE]
Hell, yeah, you ever heard that Justifiable Genocide song? it's hella gay.

I don't say hella :(

GenuineImitation 03-07-2006 04:09 PM

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]I must be a hell of a weak kid then :lol: No comment Stoic :p

Meh, I owe 18$ to my school library :(

EDIT: geez, 4 smileys...[/QUOTE]


Dont give in. Keep the $18.

Stormrider 03-07-2006 04:11 PM

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]Dont give in. Keep the $18.[/QUOTE]

Well 10 $ for being late ( max) and 8 $ because I lost the book. I'll have to pay it though. I can't take another book, not that it matters. But I can't just keep the money...

Cain 03-07-2006 04:11 PM

Oh no.

I just had a guitar lesson that was scary beyond belief. Lately, I guess, according to my teacher, he says I'm being a little resistant to expanding my musical paradigm. Even today, he said that I should play a scale up and down the neck, G Mixolydian to be precise, and I messed up a little and he assumed I didn't know it well. The problem is that I never practice scales anymore because I know them quite innately and I usually only ever use "scales" when I play music, and the analytical notions of key, key change, and such are fun for me and pretty easy for me to do by this point. But being with my teacher and having to cull up all this stuff has always been a little difficult, and today I faced the discomfort of being told that I didn't know any scales when god dammit I did.

So me and my teacher get into a long and involved talk about the nature of this type of musicianship, and we finally came to an area where it was decided that I did know my stuff in that regard but only in a limited context, and that it was never a good idea to become complacent. Of course, I'm an advanced player--within the rock and metal paradigm--so it didn't SEEM like I was complacent or even that my knowledge was only on the most basic level, but apparently it is. We've been trying to break down the box on that and I do feel like I'm expanding, but Glenn, my teacher, keeps saying that he's going to keep pushing where he feels resistance. So after this whole crazy conversation where my self-worth as a player has been utterly shattered, not in the least because what he's saying is true and my speed ego didn't want me to admit it, he says to me: "Everybody you listen to knows the scale, harmonic application stuff backwards and forwards. None of them have to analyze it the way you do--it would be great for you to hang out with somebody like Satriani or Vai or Steve Morse or someone...because they practice scales 24/7 even NOW. They don't GET complacent, and they can play or read anything and everything under the sun. That's the next level of musicianship that I know you have the ABILITY to reach but haven't reached yet. You've got a lot of basic stuff under your belt and you have good sensibilities as a player, but what good is it going to be if you don't really have the musical knowledge thing together? If you want to be another dime-a-dozen rock player that's fine, but not if you actually want to make it. You need to really take care of that, and I swear, if you could hear one of these guys play, you'd be amazed at just how much they know that you would never hear in their day job band."

Of course, by this point in the conversation I feel like I know nothing at all, and then guess what he says: "You know what, we're going to make that happen. I know Steve Morse WELL, and I know John Petrucci WELL. And if they come through NYC any time soon, we're gonna hang out, you, me, and one of them. Matter of fact, I'll call John later today and see what his schedule is and if he's coming through here we're gonna hang out."

Okay, my relative sense of my abilities as a player has been whittled almost back down to nothing and he offers to allow me to meet and JAM WITH JOHN ****ING PETRUCCI in the context of we're gonna talk about this very thing and I'm gonna play with him, maybe, and he's gonna think I'm the crappiest, most close-minded player on the planet? WTF?!

This would be so exciting if I didn't realize just how far I have to go as a musician even compared to Petrucci the robot, because I know that Glenn's right. Petrucci can play anything and everything he wants, and all I can do is play fast Satriani licks over minor and major key rock ballads and maybe a key change. It's times like these where the four years I've spent shedding this stuff just feel so wasted. God.

But that's the moral then. The shedding never ends. Christ it all just looks so daunting to me right now. And my teacher offered to set up a jam with me and John Petrucci. Any other time I'd be like "send him a demo!" Now I'm like "He'll think the demo blows because I'm a one-trick player and Glenn knows it." :(

EDIT: I just need to do away with self-worth all together. God, egos suck. If I hadn't allowed mine to get built up by all the fawning I get around campus for my skills I wouldn't feel like **** right now, because I'd know that I'm still **** compared to so many other people. I listen to Satriani and go "I can do that" and sure, I can, but I can't do any of the other things that Satch has the ability to do if he wanted. Ugh. Player growth period.

Stoic 03-07-2006 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]Dont give in. Keep the $18.[/QUOTE]

how could he not give it, he's a post deleter :angry:

Shred Danson 03-07-2006 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Hell, yeah, you ever heard that Justifiable Genocide song? it's hella gay.

I don't say hella :([/QUOTE]

It's "JUSTIFIED", you FECK! :angry:

Jev 03-07-2006 04:13 PM

Apparently one of my old technology teacher's was murdered, just down the end of my road :(

Stormrider 03-07-2006 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic]how could he not give it, he's a post deleter :angry:[/QUOTE]

Well I've stopped deleting :p Well most of the time. With just a few exceptions.

And it was GenuineImitation who wrote that Stoic.

Lord Abortion 03-07-2006 04:15 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]It's "JUSTIFIED", you FECK! :angry:[/QUOTE]
See, I knew that doing that would irritate you :p

NP-Cradle of filth-Lord Abortion(live)

I'm not going to Download to see them, and if they play this live there, I'm going to cry.
EDIT:

Cain, it's JOHN [I]F[I]UC[/I]KING[/I] PETRUCCI!
Get a grip! it doesn't matter if he thinks you suck, he's not going to be a mean enough guy to say it, [I][I]everyone[/I][/I] sucks compared to him!

Shadows 03-07-2006 04:16 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]Oh no.

I just had a guitar lesson that was scary beyond belief. Lately, I guess, according to my teacher, he says I'm being a little resistant to expanding my musical paradigm. Even today, he said that I should play a scale up and down the neck, G Mixolydian to be precise, and I messed up a little and he assumed I didn't know it well. The problem is that I never practice scales anymore because I know them quite innately and I usually only ever use "scales" when I play music, and the analytical notions of key, key change, and such are fun for me and pretty easy for me to do by this point. But being with my teacher and having to cull up all this stuff has always been a little difficult, and today I faced the discomfort of being told that I didn't know any scales when god dammit I did.

So me and my teacher get into a long and involved talk about the nature of this type of musicianship, and we finally came to an area where it was decided that I did know my stuff in that regard but only in a limited context, and that it was never a good idea to become complacent. Of course, I'm an advanced player--within the rock and metal paradigm--so it didn't SEEM like I was complacent or even that my knowledge was only on the most basic level, but apparently it is. We've been trying to break down the box on that and I do feel like I'm expanding, but Glenn, my teacher, keeps saying that he's going to keep pushing where he feels resistance. So after this whole crazy conversation where my self-worth as a player has been utterly shattered, not in the least because what he's saying is true and my speed ego didn't want me to admit it, he says to me: "Everybody you listen to knows the scale, harmonic application stuff backwards and forwards. None of them have to analyze it the way you do--it would be great for you to hang out with somebody like Satriani or Vai or Steve Morse or someone...because they practice scales 24/7 even NOW. They don't GET complacent, and they can play or read anything and everything under the sun. That's the next level of musicianship that I know you have the ABILITY to reach but haven't reached yet. You've got a lot of basic stuff under your belt and you have good sensibilities as a player, but what good is it going to be if you don't really have the musical knowledge thing together? If you want to be another dime-a-dozen rock player that's fine, but not if you actually want to make it. You need to really take care of that, and I swear, if you could hear one of these guys play, you'd be amazed at just how much they know that you would never hear in their day job band."

Of course, by this point in the conversation I feel like I know nothing at all, and then guess what he says: "You know what, we're going to make that happen. I know Steve Morse WELL, and I know John Petrucci WELL. And if they come through NYC any time soon, we're gonna hang out, you, me, and one of them. Matter of fact, I'll call John later today and see what his schedule is and if he's coming through here we're gonna hang out."

Okay, my relative sense of my abilities as a player has been whittled almost back down to nothing and he offers to allow me to meet and JAM WITH JOHN ****ING PETRUCCI in the context of we're gonna talk about this very thing and I'm gonna play with him, maybe, and he's gonna think I'm the crappiest player on the planet? WTF?!

This would be so exciting if I didn't realize just how far I have to go as a musician even compared to Petrucci the robot, because I know that Glenn's right. Petrucci can play anything and everything he wants, and all I can do is play fast Satriani licks over minor and major key rock ballads and maybe a key change. It's times like these where the four years I've spent shedding this stuff just feel so wasted. God.

But that's the moral then. The shedding never ends. Christ it all just looks so daunting to me right now. And my teacher offered to set up a jam with me and John Petrucci. Any other time I'd be like "send him a demo!" Now I'm like "He'll think the demo blows because I'm a one-trick player and Glenn knows it." :([/QUOTE]
That doesn't sound bad. You've got a chance to meet and play with him, it's unreasonable to expect you to be on his level after four years.

Lately my entire musical confidence has been compeltely shattered. I feel like I've compeltely wasted these three years playing and I just to to smash my guitar right now. Just ****ing kill me.

GenuineImitation 03-07-2006 04:17 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]Oh no.

I just had a guitar lesson that was scary beyond belief. Lately, I guess, according to my teacher, he says I'm being a little resistant to expanding my musical paradigm. Even today, he said that I should play a scale up and down the neck, G Mixolydian to be precise, and I messed up a little and he assumed I didn't know it well. The problem is that I never practice scales anymore because I know them quite innately and I usually only ever use "scales" when I play music, and the analytical notions of key, key change, and such are fun for me and pretty easy for me to do by this point. But being with my teacher and having to cull up all this stuff has always been a little difficult, and today I faced the discomfort of being told that I didn't know any scales when god dammit I did.

So me and my teacher get into a long and involved talk about the nature of this type of musicianship, and we finally came to an area where it was decided that I did know my stuff in that regard but only in a limited context, and that it was never a good idea to become complacent. Of course, I'm an advanced player--within the rock and metal paradigm--so it didn't SEEM like I was complacent or even that my knowledge was only on the most basic level, but apparently it is. We've been trying to break down the box on that and I do feel like I'm expanding, but Glenn, my teacher, keeps saying that he's going to keep pushing where he feels resistance. So after this whole crazy conversation where my self-worth as a player has been utterly shattered, not in the least because what he's saying is true and my speed ego didn't want me to admit it, he says to me: "Everybody you listen to knows the scale, harmonic application stuff backwards and forwards. None of them have to analyze it the way you do--it would be great for you to hang out with somebody like Satriani or Vai or Steve Morse or someone...because they practice scales 24/7 even NOW. They don't GET complacent, and they can play or read anything and everything under the sun. That's the next level of musicianship that I know you have the ABILITY to reach but haven't reached yet. You've got a lot of basic stuff under your belt and you have good sensibilities as a player, but what good is it going to be if you don't really have the musical knowledge thing together? If you want to be another dime-a-dozen rock player that's fine, but not if you actually want to make it. You need to really take care of that, and I swear, if you could hear one of these guys play, you'd be amazed at just how much they know that you would never hear in their day job band."

Of course, by this point in the conversation I feel like I know nothing at all, and then guess what he says: "You know what, we're going to make that happen. I know Steve Morse WELL, and I know John Petrucci WELL. And if they come through NYC any time soon, we're gonna hang out, you, me, and one of them. Matter of fact, I'll call John later today and see what his schedule is and if he's coming through here we're gonna hang out."

Okay, my relative sense of my abilities as a player has been whittled almost back down to nothing and he offers to allow me to meet and JAM WITH JOHN ****ING PETRUCCI in the context of we're gonna talk about this very thing and I'm gonna play with him, maybe, and he's gonna think I'm the crappiest player on the planet? WTF?!

This would be so exciting if I didn't realize just how far I have to go as a musician even compared to Petrucci the robot, because I know that Glenn's right. Petrucci can play anything and everything he wants, and all I can do is play fast Satriani licks over minor and major key rock ballads and maybe a key change. It's times like these where the four years I've spent shedding this stuff just feel so wasted. God.

But that's the moral then. The shedding never ends. Christ it all just looks so daunting to me right now. And my teacher offered to set up a jam with me and John Petrucci. Any other time I'd be like "send him a demo!" Now I'm like "He'll think the demo blows because I'm a one-trick player and Glenn knows it." :([/QUOTE]


I wish I had a teacher who could get me the chance to jam with Petrucci or any other guitar icon.


[QUOTE=Stoic]how could he not give it, he's a post deleter :angry:[/QUOTE]


I said that biatch :angry:

Shred Danson 03-07-2006 04:19 PM

[QUOTE]See, I knew that doing that would irritate you[/QUOTE]

You bastard :mad:

You are now forced to buy an EP :p

Cain---you are one lucky sum'bitch!

Cain 03-07-2006 04:23 PM

No, no, I'm really not. I'm really not. I'm afraid for my future as a musician right now. I have no idea how serious Glenn is about this but if he does set it up, what the hell am I going to do? Nothing I can possibly do can possibly impress Petrucci if my guitar teacher says I'm on a "basic" level. What about my music? Has it been really crappy all along and I just never realized it because I make it all by myself?

Jev 03-07-2006 04:24 PM

Just don't worry about it, I'm sure JP would understand. I mean, I doubt he'd be a wanker to you and destroy all your guitar playing dreams.

GenuineImitation 03-07-2006 04:25 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]No, no, I'm really not. I'm really not. I'm afraid for my future as a musician right now. I have no idea how serious Glenn is about this but if he does set it up, what the hell am I going to do? Nothing I can possibly do can possibly impress Petrucci if my guitar teacher says I'm on a "basic" level. What about my music? Has it been really crappy all along and I just never realized it because I make it all by myself?[/QUOTE]


Don't worry about impressing him. Just play like you normally do and use that as a learning experience.

My old guitar teacher meet Petrucci twice and they talked for about an hour each time. He said he is a really nice guy and is easy to get along with. They arent that close where he can call him up and ask if he wants to jam unfortunetly.

Stoic 03-07-2006 04:25 PM

[QUOTE=shameless post deleter]Lately my entire musical confidence has been compeltely shattered. I feel like I've compeltely wasted these three years playing and I just to to smash my guitar right now. Just ****ing kill me.[/QUOTE]

welcome to the club :upset:

Cain 03-07-2006 04:27 PM

Man, I know, trying to impress him would be the kiss of death. Why must I approach guitar playing that way? God dammit I'm such a weak individual!! :p

Well, I guess I just need to calm down and approach everything with an open mind. I just get defensive when I'm told I'm on a "basic" level when I've spent all this time shedding so that I'm NOT basic, and yet on the way I HAVE gotten complacent and self-satisfied. Ugh. I just want to quit right now. :(

Shadows 03-07-2006 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic]welcome to the club :upset:[/QUOTE]
It's even harder when I'm trying to make a future out of it. Music feels like the only thing I have going for me, but I look around at how much better everyone else is, and I realize that I'm not even good at the thing I do best. I wonder why the hell I even try.

Lord Abortion 03-07-2006 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]You bastard :mad:

You are now forced to buy an EP :p

Cain---you are one lucky sum'bitch![/QUOTE]
You don't need to force me, dude.

GenuineImitation 03-07-2006 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic]welcome to the club :upset:[/QUOTE]


Can I join the club. Many people tell me I suck, I consider myself mediocre.


My user-title is for a boost of confidence.


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