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TTTSNB 01-24-2008 12:28 PM

[quote=Drum Phil;15888584]Main advantages:

Better Quality (I.E. No compression)
Totally unedited (Unlike JPEG which your camera edits)
Totally Controllable (Can edit white balance, Exposure compensation and tint correction as well as others far more easily at a base level)
Technically uneditable (Corrections are made to a TIFF file, therefore the RAW counts as proof of copyright)

In general, RAW is the best image format. Nothing else compares.

Its like, MP3 will never compare to CD's. RAW is exactly what the sensor see's, nothing more and nothing less.[/quote]
Ah ok. My mom does some photography and uses the same format.

Drum Phil 01-24-2008 12:36 PM

Its more difficult to work with but more rewarding too.

TTTSNB 01-24-2008 12:45 PM

Yeah it seems like it.

Obelisk 01-24-2008 12:48 PM

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;15888985]Nope. I dont ask for it either.[/QUOTE]

Bands pay decent money... you've got the talent...

Retarded Chipple 01-24-2008 12:51 PM

Hey ya'll.

Drum Phil 01-24-2008 12:53 PM

[quote=Obelisk;15889114]Bands pay decent money... you've got the talent...[/quote]

I beg to differ.

I dont have a decent enough portfolio to ask for money either.

Obelisk 01-24-2008 01:01 PM

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;15889137][I]I beg to differ[/I].

I dont have a decent enough portfolio to ask for money either.[/QUOTE]

On your talent or that bands pay good money?

Understand the lack of portfolio though.

Drum Phil 01-24-2008 01:05 PM

On my talent. Im very much a beginner.

Janeway 01-24-2008 01:42 PM

Damn it. I can't not read this stupid biography. I've got 150 pages left, 50 of which I would finish tonight except I have a lesson which I don't want to go to.

The roads are sh[B]i[/B]ttier than hell, too, so that eats up an extra 20 minutes of my time.

Berk 01-24-2008 01:49 PM

aww poor pespi

Win A Rabbit 01-24-2008 02:18 PM

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Janeway 01-24-2008 02:22 PM

fu fags

The Mites 01-24-2008 02:25 PM

Fags? You're the only homosexual here Pespi...

Anyway.. I started to jot down some thoughts. There are many many more to come. I can't be bothered with formatting at the moment.

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Kit Setup

I love big drum kit setups. There’s nothing quite like seeing a beefy drum-monster overloaded with testosterone. However, one thing I personally can not stand is long set up times. The trade-off just isn’t worth it.
The same thing goes for your choice of hardware, and this is rather a big issue, especially nowadays where you really are spoiled for choice when it comes to hardware. Some of the later products from DW and Gibraltar are the epitome of this.

Let me break this down:

Toms: You could have a couple; you could have a ridiculous Mike Portnoy amount. It doesn’t really matter. What matters is how many you personally feel comfortable playing on. I don’t feel comfortable playing with two floor toms. Other people are, and that doesn’t matter. What matters is that you will be carrying both those floor toms to and from your car before and after the gig/session.

With regards to placement, your tom-toms should descend in pitch from left to right. There are a good many great drummers who switch some of their toms around to make playing them more difficult or for aesthetics or whatever. In all seriousness, the drum kit is a hard enough instrument already and if you need to find ways of making it more difficult then you need to stop and reflect as to why you are playing in the first place. Secondly, you should never set up your drums or cymbals in a particular way that is fashionable, with that being the singular reason. Aesthetics is never a reason. The previous sentence should be our mantra. Remember it, tell your friends, spray-paint it on your school, tattoo it on your upper thigh. Just don’t forget it! You shouldn’t have to reach for your toms either; they should be at arms length so you aren’t thrown off balance when you play them. I strongly suggest watching Billy Ward’s DVD entitled Big Time for a fantastic source of drumming minus bullshit.

Win A Rabbit 01-24-2008 02:35 PM

Weren't you writing a book a while ago?

Retarded Chipple 01-24-2008 02:35 PM

What is actually on Big Time?

Berk 01-24-2008 02:36 PM

a book on nothing


this dude is selling 9k booms for 15$ each.

im gonna try to get me some of that

Little Android Man 01-24-2008 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=The Mites;15889487]Fags? You're the only homosexual here Pespi...

Anyway.. I started to jot down some thoughts. There are many many more to come. I can't be bothered with formatting at the moment.

-------------------------

Kit Setup

I love big drum kit setups. There’s nothing quite like seeing a beefy drum-monster overloaded with testosterone. However, one thing I personally can not stand is long set up times. The trade-off just isn’t worth it.
The same thing goes for your choice of hardware, and this is rather a big issue, especially nowadays where you really are spoiled for choice when it comes to hardware. Some of the later products from DW and Gibraltar are the epitome of this.

Let me break this down:

Toms: You could have a couple; you could have a ridiculous Mike Portnoy amount. It doesn’t really matter. What matters is how many you personally feel comfortable playing on. I don’t feel comfortable playing with two floor toms. Other people are, and that doesn’t matter. What matters is that you will be carrying both those floor toms to and from your car before and after the gig/session.

With regards to placement, your tom-toms should descend in pitch from left to right. There are a good many great drummers who switch some of their toms around to make playing them more difficult or for aesthetics or whatever. In all seriousness, the drum kit is a hard enough instrument already and if you need to find ways of making it more difficult then you need to stop and reflect as to why you are playing in the first place. Secondly, you should never set up your drums or cymbals in a particular way that is fashionable, with that being the singular reason. Aesthetics is never a reason. The previous sentence should be our mantra. Remember it, tell your friends, spray-paint it on your school, tattoo it on your upper thigh. Just don’t forget it! You shouldn’t have to reach for your toms either; they should be at arms length so you aren’t thrown off balance when you play them. I strongly suggest watching Billy Ward’s DVD entitled Big Time for a fantastic source of drumming minus bullpoop.[/QUOTE]

..why?

Sunshine 01-24-2008 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=Berk;15888716]the 4th pic should have the first dood cropped out tbh, bice stuff anyways.[/QUOTE]

The guy on the side provides foreground, like, layers 'n sh[B]i[/B]t.

/had her night Intro to Media Production class last night

gimp fest 01-24-2008 02:47 PM

[quote=The Mites;15889487]With regards to placement, your tom-toms should descend in pitch from left to right. There are a good many great drummers who switch some of their toms around to make playing them more difficult or for aesthetics or whatever.[/quote]

this is stupid. Drummers don't change their tom order around to make things more complicated..that's ridiculous. They do it because a certain tom doesn't fit into their usual fill patterns or other personal feel preferences.

Drum Phil 01-24-2008 02:47 PM

Yes. Yes he does.

the_pure_drummer 01-24-2008 02:48 PM

ozzythedoggy = josiah.

The Mites 01-24-2008 02:49 PM

[QUOTE]Weren't you writing a book a while ago?[/QUOTE]

Back when I was 13 I wanted to write a drum book. Then I realised how stupid that was.

[QUOTE]What is actually on Big Time?[/QUOTE]

A good many thoughts and ideas about drumming that make perfect sense. That's why it's so good. It focuses on actually playing the drums rather than pushing double bass double strokes to 16ths at 250bpm or playing 9 over 5 over 7. Like.. who cares?

[QUOTE]..why?[/QUOTE]

Why what?

Win A Rabbit 01-24-2008 02:50 PM

[QUOTE=gimp fest;15889563]this is stupid. Drummers don't change their tom order around to make things more complicated..that's ridiculous. They do it because a certain tom doesn't fit into their usual fill patterns or other personal feel preferences.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I preferred my smaller rack tom on the inside, so I could get my toms more comfortably placed over my bass drum.

And unless all your fills are descending tom rolls, it's not "more complicated". And even if they are, left hand on snare, right on high tom, left on middle tom, right on floor. Yay. No crossovers or anything.

Little Android Man 01-24-2008 02:51 PM

Enough with the josiah conspiracies... he doesn't post anymore and i know he doesn't.

and why are you writing down thoughts that are obvious to 99% of us here?

Win A Rabbit 01-24-2008 02:52 PM

[QUOTE=the_pure_drummer;15889571]ozzythedoggy = josiah.[/QUOTE]
i would lol

the_pure_drummer 01-24-2008 02:52 PM

because i can write down whatever i want to. :)

I bid you all good day!

The Mites 01-24-2008 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=gimp fest;15889563]this is stupid. Drummers don't change their tom order around to make things more complicated..that's ridiculous. They do it because a certain tom doesn't fit into their usual fill patterns or other personal feel preferences.[/QUOTE]

By that reasoning one could restring a piano so when you play an ascending glissando it actually plays a nursery rhyme.

Now how stupid is that?

Win A Rabbit 01-24-2008 02:53 PM

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VDlvEAYyWM&feature=related[/url]

Umm, tell Bernard Purdie how to play drums plz


Toms =/= exclusively used for descending rolls.

gimp fest 01-24-2008 02:55 PM

[quote=The Mites;15889584]By that reasoning one could restring a piano so when you play an ascending glissando it actually plays a nursery rhyme.

Now how stupid is that?[/quote]

that is not what i am saying at all..

EDIT ^lol troof.

The Mites 01-24-2008 02:58 PM

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin1307;15889579]and why are you writing down thoughts that are obvious to 99% of us here?[/QUOTE]

I already have people rejecting my logic. Guess it wasn't so obvious to them. Just because people see it as blisteringly obvious when written down, doesn't mean the apply these logical tidbits to their practice/playing.

I have much more writing to come, with regards to many more aspects of drumming. This is just a start.


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