[QUOTE=rock not roll]If you're talking about Through Her Eyes, that's one of my favorites on the album :mad:[/QUOTE]
It's such a great song, the LSFNY intro on it with the JP and vocal solo is amazing.

[quote]I think that by classic album they mean something like Master Of Puppets rather than one of their own albums. That's what they've done on previous tours, anyway.[/quote]

123. Many people on the Portnoy forum are speculating a classic 70's prog album which would be amazing. Notice this time MP said a classic album, not a classic metal album like before.

Some have speculated that DT would cover an album by Tool.

God I would love nothing more than to see that.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Some have speculated that DT would cover an album by Tool.

God I would love nothing more than to see that.[/QUOTE]

That would be great, I'd love to see JR incorporate some keyboards into Tool covers.

If I'm not mistaken, they have previously covered in full:

Metallica - Master of Puppets
Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast
Yes - Fragile

and they may well have covered a few others, because on the Budokan documentary Mike says whenever they play a venue 2 nights in a row they always cover an album, so this must have happened a few times.

My guess is one of the following: Rush (Farewell to Kings or 2112), Pink Floyd (DSOTM or The Wall), early Genesis (The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway). A Yes album would be awesome as well.

[quote]Anyone else here think 8vm is/could be their best? I sure do.[/quote]
Not really, Awake and Images are definitely better IMO, but after that, I could see 8vm up there. Or at least tied with 6DOIT.

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Not really, Awake and Images are definitely better IMO, but after that, I could see 8vm up there. Or at least tied with 6DOIT.[/QUOTE]

Well, I am one of those who thinks I&W is overrated, so yeah.

I personally want to see them cover Aenima or Lateralus...preferably Lateralus though.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Well, I am one of those who thinks I&W is overrated, so yeah.

I personally want to see them cover Aenima or Lateralus...preferably Lateralus though.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, they'd tech it out. I don't think a DT cover of a Tool song would be good at all. It would only serve as a forum for Mike Portnoy: Petrucci would have a tone that wasn't muddy enough, Labrie would go into histrionics trying to emulate Maynard, and Myung would fall asleep playing the bass parts. And Rudess would be out of the band.

Just my opinion, though. :)

[QUOTE=Cain]Ahh, they'd tech it out. I don't think a DT cover of a Tool song would be good at all. It would only serve as a forum for Mike Portnoy: Petrucci would have a tone that wasn't muddy enough, Labrie would go into histrionics trying to emulate Maynard, and Myung would fall asleep playing the bass parts. And Rudess would be out of the band.

Just my opinion, though. :)[/QUOTE]

That's the thing, I don't see that happening.

Myung was quoted as saying he actually likes Tool quite a bit, so I don't see him getting bored by the basslines. Petrucci's tone shouldn't matter, how he plays the song is what matters. I quite prefer his tone to Adam's anyway. I think it'd actually be a challenge for Mike, because I truely believe Danny is a better drummer. I think Jordan could find a way to weave keys behind the songs, I've always thought it might be cool to have keys in Tool. Sadly, I think James would be sorely out of place singing Tool, but oh well.

[quote]And Rudess would be out of the band.[/quote]
Good, Rudess needs to sit down and shut up for once.

If they covered anything I think it should be like 2112.

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Good, Rudess needs to sit down and shut up for once.

If they covered anything I think it should be like 2112.[/QUOTE]

They need to cover more Rush. They're like musical twins.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]That's the thing, I don't see that happening.

Myung was quoted as saying he actually likes Tool quite a bit, so I don't see him getting bored by the basslines. Petrucci's tone shouldn't matter, how he plays the song is what matters. I quite prefer his tone to Adam's anyway. I think it'd actually be a challenge for Mike, because I truely believe Danny is a better drummer. I think Jordan could find a way to weave keys behind the songs, I've always thought it might be cool to have keys in Tool. Sadly, I think James would be sorely out of place singing Tool, but oh well.[/QUOTE]

I bet Portnoy would be able to play anything Carey plays, he just would sound much stiffer and not as free and psychedelic as Carey does.

But these debates were supposed to end a long time ago. :)

I have to say this...

A while ago I heard The Glass Prison and was kinda turned off by them. A little while later I heard the song again and like.. slowly became addicted to it. So I got a friend to send me "A Change in Seasons" which I thought was plane awesome. Yesterday I purchased my first album "A Train of Thought" which truly is incredible. The whole cd is outright amazing. The instrumental is pure genious, and my 2 favorites would have to be "As I Am" and "In the Name of God" which are some of the best songs I've ever heard.

Where should I go from here? (cd wise?) I know a lot of people say Images and Words is their best, but I also heard it was a softer album... anything else they have thats nice and heavy? Maybe the cd with The Glass Prison... (forgot what it was called..)

Edit: oh and DC is the better drummer. :thumb: but MP still kicks a[COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]s

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I have to say this...

A while ago I heard The Glass Prison and was kinda turned off by them. A little while later I heard the song again and like.. slowly became addicted to it. So I got a friend to send me "A Change in Seasons" which I thought was plane awesome. Yesterday I purchased my first album "A Train of Thought" which truly is incredible. The whole cd is outright amazing. The instrumental is pure genious, and my 2 favorites would have to be "As I Am" and "In the Name of God" which are some of the best songs I've ever heard.

Where should I go from here? (cd wise?) I know a lot of people say Images and Words is their best, but I also heard it was a softer album... anything else they have thats nice and heavy? Maybe the cd with The Glass Prison... (forgot what it was called..)

Edit: oh and DC is the better drummer. :thumb: but MP still kicks a[COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]s[/QUOTE]
awake is a good choice. it has a good mixture of heavy and quiet songs.

awake or octavarium in my opinion for you

[QUOTE=Med57]If you want a heavier DT album after [i]Train Of Thought[/i], I'd say [i]Awake[/i] as well. When I got [i]Images And Words[/i] I was really surprised by how soft it was.[/QUOTE]

Same here, except I had Images and Words first and than I got Awake next and I was surprised at how much darker and angrier Awake was.

I got Awake :cool:
Yeah, it's pretty good, just had a rough listen, so far Caught in a Web is the winner though.

I agree, Awake and Train of THought are both in the same vein. Here is an incredibly breif rundown of what you should expect

When Dream and Day Unite: Sorry, I have no opinion. don't have the CD or know anyone who does. People seem to like the Ytse Jam (Majesty spelled backwards)

Images and Words: I don't have it, but I know enough to say it's much lighter than a lot of others. I have a live recording of Metropolis Pt 1, and it is amazing.

Awake: Much heavier, but not as much as Train of Thought. It's got some epics, like Scarred, Voices, Erotomania, and Lie. This CD took me months to get used to, but I like it a lot now. Also, expect a BIG change of direction in Space Dye Vest. Kevin Moore (the keyboardist) left the band after this CD was made due to musical differences, and it is more than apparent on this song.

Falling into Infinity: Many people agree that this is DT's worst album. They say that it's too mainstream. This is because DT got a lot of pressure to make radio-friendly songs. However, they never fail to give us a good opener; New Millennium is a classic. I think DT understood that everybody hated this album foir lack of progressive-ness, so at the Live in BUdokan recording, they stuck in a monstrous (and awesome) guitar solo in Hollow Years. Also, this is the first CD with the new keyboarder, Derek Sherinian.

A Change of Seasons: This is an enigma: the first disc is a 23 minute marathon, and the second is comprised of five live recordings and some Jazz Cafe. They cover a bunch of artists like Elton John, Zeppelin, Queen, etc. Btw, A Change of Seasons (the song) is their third longest song.

Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From a Memory: Again, a new keyboardist--Jordan Rudess. He's the best of the three DT keyboardists, and his mark is apparent on the last four albums. If you've heard Metropolis Pt 1, you'll understand this better. This is a rock opera dealing with reincarnation and hypnosis. Many people agree that this is one of their best (if not the greatest) album of all time. DT origionally named Metro 1 humorously, but fans gave them presure to do a part 2. They eventually started and expanded it into an entire album. Some highlights: Overture 1928, Fatal Tragedy, Beyond this Life, Home, The Dance of Eternity, and The Spirit Carries On. This is an amazing disc. It left me wanting them to do a Metropolis part 3 :D

Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence: This is the CD with the Glass Prison. But be warned! The Glass Prison is the only song on the album of its type. The other four 'short' songs all have a different style. The second CD is their longest song ever, a 42 minute epic called Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. ALl the songs a re amazong, but none are similar. This gets either really poor reviews or really great reviews, so sample each song before you buy it.

Train of Thought: You already have it, but I'll continue anyways. This is their darkest album, and it turns several people off, but I like it a lot. It has seven strong points: As I am, This Dying Soul, Endless Sacrifice, Honor Thy Father, Vacant, Stream of Conciosness (how do you spell that?), and In The name of God. The entire album is a masterpiece, and whoever says this album is bad should go screw a cow.

Octavarium: The lastest, and maybe the most controversial. DT has been known as the maker of some fantastic prog, but here they slacken the reins. The Root of all Evil, Sacrificed Sons, and Octavarium will please DT fans, but the rest are all more simplistic. While I personally like it, I can see how others don't. Thisnk of this as DT's answer to anybody who says they can't write a cohesive song.

Also, I just noticed that whenever DT makes a title song, the song s are always lengthy. Octavarium, A Change of Seasons, and Six Degrees are the only title tracks, and are very long (24, 23, and 42 minutes, respectively).

My personal reccomendations would be Awake or Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From a Memory.

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Sorry for all those typos. I'm not good at typing.

And now I have an interersting idea for a debate...

Who is better at their instrument, Petrucci or Rudess?

Yes, it may be like comparing apples to ornages, but i want to known people's opinions.

Hey im new 2 dream theater, ive heard very good things about them, who r they like and what r some good songs by them?

I'm pretty sure I disagree with just about everything you just said then...

[QUOTE=spenser93]Hey im new 2 dream theater, ive heard very good things about them, who r they like and what r some good songs by them?[/QUOTE]

Dream Theater is a modern progressive rock band who derives influence from the works of Yes and Genesis from the 1970's.

Some of their best works, in my opinion:

A Change of Seasons (EP)
Scenes from a Memory
6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence

[QUOTE=spenser93]Hey im new 2 dream theater, ive heard very good things about them, who r they like and what r some good songs by them?[/QUOTE]



They are neo progressive metal. In the vein of Fates Warning, Queensryche, Vanden Plas etc.


Recommended songs:


Ytse Jam

Pull Me Under
Metropolis Pt 1
Learning to Live

Voices
Scarred

A Change of Seasons

Hells Kitchen
Trial of Tears

Fatal Tragedy
Finally Free

Blind Faith
The Great Debate

Stream of Conciousness

Panic Attack
Octavarium



Songs to Avoid:

The Glass Prison
Honor Thy Father

[QUOTE=RideTheSpiral], Queensryche,[/QUOTE]

Queensryche is awesome, but I don't really consider them "prog."

[QUOTE=Jovian]Queensryche is awesome, but I don't really consider them "prog."[/QUOTE]


Er they pioneered NeoProg.

LaBrie's vocals don't really appeal to me, i only like their instrumentals though, "The Dance of Eternity" is simply amazing

[QUOTE=RideTheSpiral]Er they pioneered NeoProg.[/QUOTE]

What is NeoProg??? :confused:

Never heard of that genre before.

Queensryche was a METAL band when they started out with the "Queen of the Ryche" and "The Warning."

They could be easily categorized with Iron Maiden and Judas Priest during this era. Maiden and Priest are anything but "prog."

[QUOTE=RideTheSpiral]
Songs to Avoid:

The Glass Prison
Honor Thy Father[/QUOTE]
Heh, those are their 2 best songs if you ask me... But I haven't heard to much else... yet.

[QUOTE=Jovian]What is NeoProg??? :confused:

Never heard of that genre before.

Queensryche was a METAL band when they started out with the "Queen of the Ryche" and "The Warning."

They could be easily categorized with Iron Maiden and Judas Priest during this era. Maiden and Priest are anything but "prog."[/QUOTE]


NeoProg = New Wave of Progressive music.


They started out glam but became Prog with Operation Mindcrime.



Maiden and Priest have a lot of Progressive influences.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Heh, those are their 2 best songs if you ask me...[/QUOTE]


Yeah...no I don't.

[QUOTE=RideTheSpiral]NeoProg = New Wave of Progressive music.


They started out glam but became Prog with Operation Mindcrime.



Maiden and Priest have a lot of Progressive influences.[/QUOTE]

We'll have to agree to disagree on this. :)

When I think of "prog", I think of Dream Theater, The Mars Volta and Spock's Beard.

Queensyche is a **** good rock band... but not prog, IMO.